2.0L 718 -20mm suspension options questions

[FourPotPorsche]

Yes, there are plenty of reviews with the 718 on SPASM with 20 inchers where the reviewer states that the ride is remarkably forgiving in Normal Mode. I was going to spec it but was talked out if it by a Porsche driving instructor who said it was overkill for a road car...but if you are going to track it then I presume it is a no brainer

[johnny senna]

FourPotPorsche said:

Yes, there are plenty of reviews with the 718 on SPASM with 20 inchers where the reviewer states that the ride is remarkably forgiving in Normal Mode. I was going to spec it but was talked out if it by a Porsche driving instructor who said it was overkill for a road car...but if you are going to track it then I presume it is a no brainer

My apologies, I wasn't clear. I meant that I wasn't sure about getting after market -20mm passive suspension for comfort reasons. Like you say, the 718S on -20mm PASM rides just fine.

[FourPotPorsche]

No my mistake I didn't realise you were talking about the 2.0 litre which of course does not offer SPASM hence your interest in passive dampers at -20mm.

[spareparts]

johnny senna said:

I'm not sure if I'd go for -20mm passive suspension to be honest. But there are a few 981s out here with it and I'm guessing it isn't crazy uncomfy?

By the way, does -20mm suspension on a Cayman get over speed bumps OK? Or would -10mm actually be a better idea in this regard?

The 981 Spyder has -20mm passive suspension as standard fit. It is noticeably less settled and composed compared to the -20mm SPASM as fitted to the GT4 over normal roads. The passive setup of the Spyder is what gives it its unique character and edgy feedback while driving. The GT4 is very refined and composed in comparison. (noise differences aside)

Edited by spareparts on Wednesday 28th September 08:54

[johnny senna]

spareparts said:

johnny senna said:

I'm not sure if I'd go for -20mm passive suspension to be honest. But there are a few 981s out here with it and I'm guessing it isn't crazy uncomfy?

By the way, does -20mm suspension on a Cayman get over speed bumps OK? Or would -10mm actually be a better idea in this regard?

The 981 Spyder has -20mm passive suspension as standard fit. It is noticeably less settled and composed compared to the -20mm SPASM as fitted to the GT4 over normal roads. The passive setup of the Spyder is what gives it its unique character and edgy feedback while driving. The GT4 is very refined and composed in comparison. (noise differences aside)

Edited by spareparts on Wednesday 28th September 08:54

Thanks. That is an interesting insight.

Does anyone else think that -20mm passive suspension is too uncomfortable for normal road use? I really like the -20mm look, so this is important question for me.

[Prestonese]

johnny senna said:

Thanks. That is an interesting insight.

Does anyone else think that -20mm passive suspension is too uncomfortable for normal road use? I really like the -20mm look, so this is important question for me.

Yes. I have it on my CGTS and I live in central London. The roads here are terrible but I've never questioned whether I made the wrong choice - even when I slow to a crawl to get over speed bumps.

When I first drove a GTS with PASM then the SS I didn't think I could notice the difference. When I tried again it was quite clear the SS has a certain tautness to it compared to a standard Cayman suspension or one with PASM. Depends if you like that or not though.

I'd would imagine PASM is great to live with and probably one I'd take if the car was a daily. I've been on some long drives in mine though with no problems. I don't recall thinking of issues save a few places on the M6 around Birmingham which always felt bumpy even when I drove the same stretch in a Renault Clio on 16 inch wheels. I also used to have an Audi A5 on 20s and the GTS with SS is definitely more comfortable.

Also, before I bought mine I saw several Caymans with PASM and they just didn't look right to me.

One thing to note. I'm still in my 30s so my tolerance levels for bumpy cars might be different if I was 20 years older....

Edited by Prestonese on Wednesday 28th September 23:50

[spareparts]

johnny senna said:

spareparts said:

johnny senna said:

I'm not sure if I'd go for -20mm passive suspension to be honest. But there are a few 981s out here with it and I'm guessing it isn't crazy uncomfy?

By the way, does -20mm suspension on a Cayman get over speed bumps OK? Or would -10mm actually be a better idea in this regard?

The 981 Spyder has -20mm passive suspension as standard fit. It is noticeably less settled and composed compared to the -20mm SPASM as fitted to the GT4 over normal roads. The passive setup of the Spyder is what gives it its unique character and edgy feedback while driving. The GT4 is very refined and composed in comparison. (noise differences aside)

Edited by spareparts on Wednesday 28th September 08:54

Thanks. That is an interesting insight.

Does anyone else think that -20mm passive suspension is too uncomfortable for normal road use? I really like the -20mm look, so this is important question for me.

Johnny,
The -20 passive suspension is not uncomfortable, but it is quite harsh in comparison to a S/PASM equipped car. It is the smaller secondary bumps that PASM excels in imho. I drive both cars over the exact same roads in and around London, and even Mrs Spareparts notices the diffference between both cars in terms of ride quality. When pushing on at pace, spasm really allows you to focus on just picking the line, whereas the -20passives keeps the steering and chassis moving.