porsche cayman 3.4s or audi tt rs
Discussion
hi all time to splash the cash, looking at both cars .We have just been blessed with a granddaughter, and I am thinking the Audi has a small back seat if I need to use it .I had already made my mind up it was going to be the Cayman but the arrival of said grandchild has forced a rethink .I will be using either for my commute to work, and would only need that back seat on very odd occasions .The wife has her little FIAT 500 which we can use if need be .Any thoughts would be gratefully received .
TTRS is faster, far more tunable, has more suspension and handling upgrades available at a lower price, more well specced, and just as nice to drive for 90% of the time. Also has a nicer interior by a mile.
Also TTRS is much more reliable and more economical, cheaper to service, run, repair.
Cayman is slow all things considered, especially through the gears, not that economical, comparatively very expensive to run and unreliable. Has a better chassis once you push past 90%
Of course, on a picturesque mountain road in Wales, on the 6.2 days a year it's not raining or stuffed with traffic, the Cayman will be more fun.
But most of the time, on the A27 to Worthing when it's raining, the TTRS is just as much of an enjoyable car but it won't be surprised by a remapped Passat estate.
You won't find that said here because it's Porsche owners club! They'll all be out with their scored cylinder blocks shortly saying "gerrof my land!"
Also TTRS is much more reliable and more economical, cheaper to service, run, repair.
Cayman is slow all things considered, especially through the gears, not that economical, comparatively very expensive to run and unreliable. Has a better chassis once you push past 90%
Of course, on a picturesque mountain road in Wales, on the 6.2 days a year it's not raining or stuffed with traffic, the Cayman will be more fun.
But most of the time, on the A27 to Worthing when it's raining, the TTRS is just as much of an enjoyable car but it won't be surprised by a remapped Passat estate.
You won't find that said here because it's Porsche owners club! They'll all be out with their scored cylinder blocks shortly saying "gerrof my land!"
xjay1337 said:
TTRS is faster, far more tunable, has more suspension and handling upgrades available at a lower price, more well specced, and just as nice to drive for 90% of the time. Also has a nicer interior by a mile.
Also TTRS is much more reliable and more economical, cheaper to service, run, repair.
Cayman is slow all things considered, especially through the gears, not that economical, comparatively very expensive to run and unreliable. Has a better chassis once you push past 90%
Of course, on a picturesque mountain road in Wales, on the 6.2 days a year it's not raining or stuffed with traffic, the Cayman will be more fun.
But most of the time, on the A27 to Worthing when it's raining, the TTRS is just as much of an enjoyable car but it won't be surprised by a remapped Passat estate.
You won't find that said here because it's Porsche owners club! They'll all be out with their scored cylinder blocks shortly saying "gerrof my land!"
I've not owned a TTRS, just a TTS (and base 981). Have you owned both TTRS and Cayman 981? I'm trying to give an opinion based on driving cars close to the OP's choices.Also TTRS is much more reliable and more economical, cheaper to service, run, repair.
Cayman is slow all things considered, especially through the gears, not that economical, comparatively very expensive to run and unreliable. Has a better chassis once you push past 90%
Of course, on a picturesque mountain road in Wales, on the 6.2 days a year it's not raining or stuffed with traffic, the Cayman will be more fun.
But most of the time, on the A27 to Worthing when it's raining, the TTRS is just as much of an enjoyable car but it won't be surprised by a remapped Passat estate.
You won't find that said here because it's Porsche owners club! They'll all be out with their scored cylinder blocks shortly saying "gerrof my land!"
TTS was flawed by its 4WD system, turbo lag, turbo over run, bobbly suspension, and overall bland "hatchback" experience.
By the way "nicer interior" includes a steering wheel which doesn't tilt down far enough or pull out far enough to give a good driving position (I'm 6' 1"). Added to that, the wheel (wheels are round, yes?) has a bit missing at the bottom so that it's difficult to steer in the twisties as you have to search for the next proper bit of wheel rim next to the missing bit. Very odd.
Edited by DJMC on Monday 10th October 12:47
Drove a Cayman S on a 07 plate. Steering was nice but I didn't get what the big fuss was about especially bearing in mind they're slow (I beat one in a drag race in my diesel at Santa Pod) and considering the lack of speed, not that economical and lack punch coming out of corners.
It's not hard to imagine on a full on balls out drive they are great and you can use words like "balance" and "poise" and "finesse"....
but for normal and slightly sporty driving the TTRS will be the better car. Combined with the Haldex it will create a fun, if ever so slightly understeery experience but let's face it 90% of the time it won't have much of a difference.
Haven't drove a TTRS but a few normal TTs
I think the key point is drive both cars back to back (most prestigious dealerships will have both in stock) and decide from there.
I would go for the TTRS personally. As I said spending £2-3k on it and you will have a beast of a car with 450+ bhp.
It's not hard to imagine on a full on balls out drive they are great and you can use words like "balance" and "poise" and "finesse"....
but for normal and slightly sporty driving the TTRS will be the better car. Combined with the Haldex it will create a fun, if ever so slightly understeery experience but let's face it 90% of the time it won't have much of a difference.
Haven't drove a TTRS but a few normal TTs
I think the key point is drive both cars back to back (most prestigious dealerships will have both in stock) and decide from there.
I would go for the TTRS personally. As I said spending £2-3k on it and you will have a beast of a car with 450+ bhp.
I had a TTRS for a couple of years.
It was really quick, comfortable, reliable and punchy.
It was however a little numb in the feel, never felt quite connected to you as a drivers car. I wouldn't go back from my BGTS to a TTRS as I love the fee of the 981.
We are all different and I know some say the 981 has no feel, but it's the best car I've ever had.
It was really quick, comfortable, reliable and punchy.
It was however a little numb in the feel, never felt quite connected to you as a drivers car. I wouldn't go back from my BGTS to a TTRS as I love the fee of the 981.
We are all different and I know some say the 981 has no feel, but it's the best car I've ever had.
I have had 4 TT's inc TTS and TTRS, TTRS is a weapon with a tune gives you an 8 seconds 100mph car, low 7's with DSG.
you can tweak from the dull oem setup with engine mount and off centre front bushes plus bigger ARB's and a nice geo.
Like most all these cars understeer even the 981 oem.
depends what you want, I loved the TTRS 5 pot and that performance, 40-60 in 1 second !! that's fater than a GTR gen 1 or 997 turbo !
people say feel is king but the 981 is very poor on feel, prob the worse feeling car Porsche made and ever will make , with gen 1 EPS.
EPS has move on in spades.
that leaves feel with the 987.2 car or the better 718 gen 3 eps. The 981 is a bit dull for me personally! and if you want dull buy the TTRS and get the performance :-) and least that's exciting and fun.
if you posted a price point, we could be more help as the Cayman R is king :-[) at £45k for a real sports car which is still quite new.
you can tweak from the dull oem setup with engine mount and off centre front bushes plus bigger ARB's and a nice geo.
Like most all these cars understeer even the 981 oem.
depends what you want, I loved the TTRS 5 pot and that performance, 40-60 in 1 second !! that's fater than a GTR gen 1 or 997 turbo !
people say feel is king but the 981 is very poor on feel, prob the worse feeling car Porsche made and ever will make , with gen 1 EPS.
EPS has move on in spades.
that leaves feel with the 987.2 car or the better 718 gen 3 eps. The 981 is a bit dull for me personally! and if you want dull buy the TTRS and get the performance :-) and least that's exciting and fun.
if you posted a price point, we could be more help as the Cayman R is king :-[) at £45k for a real sports car which is still quite new.
Edited by Porsche911R on Monday 10th October 14:06
I'd agree that Caymans aren't that punchy coming out of corners. Especially low speed ones. Mine gets a little frisky at the back end when I try to give it too much throttle too soon. 
But it's precisely that which makes it fun to drive. I didn't buy it for its point and squirt ability or for it to be good in drag races.
But it's precisely that which makes it fun to drive. I didn't buy it for its point and squirt ability or for it to be good in drag races.It all comes down to personal taste and there's no accounting for that. I had a test drive in a TT but the minute I sat in it I hated it even though I'd spent 2 years in an A3 so was well attuned to Audi's.
Even with the back seats in the TT your going to do your back in getting the grandchildren in and out.
After I got the Cayman it was our only car and I thought we could manage with that. Didn't take long to realise I need something for ferrying people, moving my daughter's flat and going to the waste site. Bought a Honda Jazz which is just a motorised shopping trolley but with the rear seats flat it's as big as a small van.
Even with the back seats in the TT your going to do your back in getting the grandchildren in and out.
After I got the Cayman it was our only car and I thought we could manage with that. Didn't take long to realise I need something for ferrying people, moving my daughter's flat and going to the waste site. Bought a Honda Jazz which is just a motorised shopping trolley but with the rear seats flat it's as big as a small van.
As others have said, its a personal choice.
For me its not about straight line speed, but that sense of involvement, feel and feedback from the car. I agree the Cayman may not be the quickest but it gives me what I want from a car.
I haven't driven a TTRS, but I did have TTS (2016) for a long weekend, it was punchy, v quick, but really crashy, even with the magnetic ride in comfort. I couldn't use it as a daily.
In terms of suspension setup, a Cayman on 20s with PASM is leagues ahead in terms of usability, when pushing on or the daily drive.
My 2 pennies.
For me its not about straight line speed, but that sense of involvement, feel and feedback from the car. I agree the Cayman may not be the quickest but it gives me what I want from a car.
I haven't driven a TTRS, but I did have TTS (2016) for a long weekend, it was punchy, v quick, but really crashy, even with the magnetic ride in comfort. I couldn't use it as a daily.
In terms of suspension setup, a Cayman on 20s with PASM is leagues ahead in terms of usability, when pushing on or the daily drive.
My 2 pennies.
The TTRS is an awesome piece of kit, had one until last June, did over 25k miles in it.
Really rapid car, with massive, usable performance, all weathers, all roads.
Might not have the overall 'feel' or most Porsches, but it depends on what you want from a car.
You won't go wrong with either.
Really rapid car, with massive, usable performance, all weathers, all roads.
Might not have the overall 'feel' or most Porsches, but it depends on what you want from a car.
You won't go wrong with either.
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