porsche cayman 3.4s or audi tt rs

[IMI A]

Porsche911R said:

depends what you want, I loved the TTRS 5 pot and that performance, 40-60 in 1 second !! that's fater than a GTR gen 1 or 997 turbo !

Edited by Porsche911R on Monday 10th October 14:06

I'm sure a tuned or even standard TT RS DSG is very quick but I'm not sure mentioning them in the same breath as GTR or 997 turbo is a valid comparison. Sure this TT RS is up against a mildly tuned manual gen 1 9e 997 turbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUBIGr0e8ss

but I believe the RS has also been remapped itself and has the advantage of being a DSG against a manual turbo. To put this particular 9e turbo into context there were PDK gen 2 997 turbos at TV this year running remaps, zorst and meth that blew the doors off the 9e tuned manual turbo in the vid albeit to be fair IMO the meth/PDK gave the gen 2 turbos a good advantage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ooqPxLbRn0&li...

Forget about what the PDK gen 2 turbo would do to an RS can you imagine what a 1500hp 997 turbo would do to a TT RS. As I said just not a valid comparison as 997 turbos are heavily de tuned from the factory and the gen 2 PDK 997 turbos are mad quick with just a remap, and exhaust.

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IMI A said:

Porsche911R said:

depends what you want, I loved the TTRS 5 pot and that performance, 40-60 in 1 second !! that's fater than a GTR gen 1 or 997 turbo !

Edited by Porsche911R on Monday 10th October 14:06

I'm sure a tuned or even standard TT RS DSG is very quick but I'm not sure mentioning them in the same breath as GTR or 997 turbo is a valid comparison. Sure this TT RS is up against a mildly tuned manual gen 1 9e 997 turbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUBIGr0e8ss

but I believe the RS has also been remapped itself and has the advantage of being a DSG against a manual turbo. To put this particular 9e turbo into context there were PDK gen 2 997 turbos at TV this year running remaps, zorst and meth that blew the doors off the 9e tuned manual turbo in the vid albeit to be fair IMO the meth/PDK gave the gen 2 turbos a good advantage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ooqPxLbRn0&li...

Forget about what the PDK gen 2 turbo would do to an RS can you imagine what a 1500hp 997 turbo would do to a TT RS. As I said just not a valid comparison as 997 turbos are heavily de tuned from the factory and the gen 2 PDK 997 turbos are mad quick with just a remap, and exhaust.

Have you any idea what you have just done...

Release the Kraken...

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I don't think the OP could have asked a more inflammatory question of this particular forum group!! I reckon that most people buy a car and don't expect to have to modify it to get what they "need" (as opposed to what they "want"). On PH with all the enthusiasts, you'll always have those that see the OEM car as the baseline of a project to modify and improve upon - and I'm not knocking it as I've been there myself, to a point.

The best way to decide for yourself is to have a decent amount of time with the cars on the test drive. There are so many variables in play, such as your own personal driving style and ability, your own preferences of ultimate acceleration over handling finesse and feel, the intended use of the car, running costs, etc etc etc. You have to drive it and then decide if the lack of back seat is important, if the boot space would be an issue, or whether either car suits your driving style more than the other. (I suspect that the Audi would be better for your needs on the practical level though). Either way, its a nice dilemma to have and neither car is "wrong" to my mind given the original requirements.

[Porsche911R]

IMI A said:

I'm sure a tuned or even standard TT RS DSG is very quick but I'm not sure mentioning them in the same breath as GTR or 997 turbo is a valid comparison. Sure this TT RS is up against a mildly tuned manual gen 1 9e 997 turbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUBIGr0e8ss

but I believe the RS has also been remapped itself and has the advantage of being a DSG against a manual turbo. To put this particular 9e turbo into context there were PDK gen 2 997 turbos at TV this year running remaps, zorst and meth that blew the doors off the 9e tuned manual turbo in the vid albeit to be fair IMO the meth/PDK gave the gen 2 turbos a good advantage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ooqPxLbRn0&li...

Forget about what the PDK gen 2 turbo would do to an RS can you imagine what a 1500hp 997 turbo would do to a TT RS. As I said just not a valid comparison as 997 turbos are heavily de tuned from the factory and the gen 2 PDK 997 turbos are mad quick with just a remap, and exhaust.

Is was a passing comment on performance and just how fast one can be for £500
One could say look at 1500 bhp R8 they eat your modded 911 so Audi wins again :-)

These big bhp 911 cost twice as much to buy and 5x as much to tune.
What else for £30k gets you 40-60 in 1.2 seconds, it's crazy fast for very little money, as I said much faster them oem gen1 gtr for a 997 turbo.

Yes things have move on performance wise but when I had mine new 7 years ago it's was one of the the fastest thing at vmax and was just a laugh to use that performance on the road vs noddy 911's. Who always tried it on and always failed.
Made GT3 look like a Ford KA.

[IMI A]

Porsche911R said:

IMI A said:

I'm sure a tuned or even standard TT RS DSG is very quick but I'm not sure mentioning them in the same breath as GTR or 997 turbo is a valid comparison. Sure this TT RS is up against a mildly tuned manual gen 1 9e 997 turbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUBIGr0e8ss

but I believe the RS has also been remapped itself and has the advantage of being a DSG against a manual turbo. To put this particular 9e turbo into context there were PDK gen 2 997 turbos at TV this year running remaps, zorst and meth that blew the doors off the 9e tuned manual turbo in the vid albeit to be fair IMO the meth/PDK gave the gen 2 turbos a good advantage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ooqPxLbRn0&li...

Forget about what the PDK gen 2 turbo would do to an RS can you imagine what a 1500hp 997 turbo would do to a TT RS. As I said just not a valid comparison as 997 turbos are heavily de tuned from the factory and the gen 2 PDK 997 turbos are mad quick with just a remap, and exhaust.

Is was a passing comment on performance and just how fast one can be for £500
One could say look at 1500 bhp R8 they eat your modded 911 so Audi wins again :-)

These big bhp 911 cost twice as much to buy and 5x as much to tune.
What else for £30k gets you 40-60 in 1.2 seconds, it's crazy fast for very little money, as I said much faster them oem gen1 gtr for a 997 turbo.

Yes things have move on performance wise but when I had mine new 7 years ago it's was one of the the fastest thing at vmax and was just a laugh to use that performance on the road vs noddy 911's. Who always tried it on and always failed.
Made GT3 look like a Ford KA.

A stock manual gen 1 997 turbo is also around 1 sec 40-60mph so how is a TT RS faster? Also do you mind me asking exactly what an R8 has to do with a comparison you made between a TT RS and a 997t and GTR?

And yes whilst R8 quick you have 2000bhp variants of all these cars (mostly Porsches) nowadays with Porsche being the most rugged. All the others monster tunes need engine rebuilds every year with very deep pockets as do the Porsches from time to time to be fair.

[shantybeater]

I don't think he watches/watched top gear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blDh04HvtZs

5:50 secs in..

The TTRS is an awesome machine, one i'm very tempted to swap into so I can release equity/enjoy cheaper motoring. But the 997T/GTR is in a different league for performance/tune-ability.

As for the OP's question, as many have mentioned it depends what you are after, one offers a much more enjoyable driving experience, the other is more practical and better for straight-line speed.

Please update the thread when you make the purchase, either way i'll be interested to hear the outcome.

Edited by shantybeater on Sunday 23 October 18:13

[Porsche911R]

IMI A said:

? Also do you mind me asking exactly what an R8 has to do with ....

you have a small memory what you posted
"can you imagine what a 1500hp 997 turbo would do to a TT RS"

to quote your daft post !

[andrewws]

I was faced with this dilemma around 6 months ago, being the owner of a 56 plate TT 3.2 that never missed a beat and was a superb drive. Just wanted a change so TTRS was in the frame but I have always liked the Cayman. Eventually went for a 2009 gen 2 S manual and loved it at first, I cannot put my finger on it but after living with the car I feel my old TT suited me better. The Cayman is a fantastic drive, but is more hard core than I expected. Its beautifully built and looks stunning, everyone thinks it looks great and because they are quite rare it get compliments a plenty.

Maybe its my age, but I wish a TTRS was on my drive in some ways. The AUDI feels a much larger car, but its a TT and there are hundreds round here (that does not make it a bad car just not as exclusive as the Cayman). Anyone want to swap?