So the GT4RS is coming...hopefully

[88racing]

J-P said:

...erm they'll start with a 718 Cayman?

The flat six will not fit in the 718 chassis.

[GT4RS]

88racing said:

J-P said:

...erm they'll start with a 718 Cayman?

The flat six will not fit in the 718 chassis.

I'm sure Porsche are more than capable of making it fit!

[Trotmant]

spareparts said:

J-P said:

Trotmant said:

I think its coming - LOI in.

Mine went in 2 years ago ??

I don't think LOI's make any difference anymore. OPCs know who their 'good' customers are and would be willing to place their special cars with. If it's like Ferrari and their placement of Speciale's TDF's LaFs etc, it will come down to how many brand new cars you have bought in the past, not a typed letter that demonstrates no commitment.

I would rather have submitted one a while back just in case, don't see how it can harm. But completely agree you need to buy lots of cooking models first.

[DodoRacing]

Slippydiff said:

The gearbox is hopeless, the steering lacking in feel, the brakes made out of chocolate and the engine hopeless when compared to the V8 that replaced it (oh, and and it was too expensive)

And that boy racer air-intake sound is soo annoying! Especially when the flap opens above 4K rpm.

[J-P]

anonymous said:

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^^This

[J-P]

spareparts said:

J-P said:

Trotmant said:

I think its coming - LOI in.

Mine went in 2 years ago ??

I don't think LOI's make any difference anymore. OPCs know who their 'good' customers are and would be willing to place their special cars with. If it's like Ferrari and their placement of Speciale's TDF's LaFs etc, it will come down to how many brand new cars you have bought in the past, not a typed letter that demonstrates no commitment.

You're right SP. Porsche have definitely gone down this route of late. However, coal OPC has confirmed I'm top of the list so I'm happy

[ChrisW.]

Mintbird said:

let me guess, Ninemeister dyno..

No ... Wayne Schofield's original dyno at Chipwizards ... but a not unreasonable assumption (if wrong !)

[Mintbird]

ChrisW. said:

Mintbird said:

let me guess, Ninemeister dyno..

No ... Wayne Schofield's original dyno at Chipwizards ... but a not unreasonable assumption (if wrong !)

Thats the 9m dyno
two peas in a pond those two. comedy numbers

Edited by Mintbird on Monday 23 January 23:28

Edited by Mintbird on Monday 23 January 23:28

[ATTAK Z]

Mintbird said:

two peas in a pond those two. comedy numbers

or could be two fish in a pod ?

[Slippydiff]

ATTAK Z said:

or could be two fish in a pod ?

[Mintbird]

[J-P]

So if they do make this - when do we think we'll start to see cars pounding round the 'ring?

[ChrisW.]

Mintbird said:

Thats the 9m dyno
two peas in a pond those two. comedy numbers

Edited by Mintbird on Monday 23 January 23:28

Edited by Mintbird on Monday 23 January 23:28

Again, Wayne did move from the rolling road he built to the 9m facility between times ... and I believe he is on his own again.

Was his original rolling road magic as well ??

[beanoir]

anonymous said:

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I posed the same question to Darren at RPM last week and he said the same, the 6 won't fit in the 718 engine bay apparently. Does that mean Porsche couldn't engineer the car so it would, I've no doubt they could. But as Darren said if they were that desperate to use that engine then they would be more likely to build it on the 981 car body. What certainly won't fit is a 3.0 turbo 6 from the new Carerra.

Be interesting to see if and what they do.

[Twinfan]

All non-motorsport NA sixes are now out of production, as is the 981 chassis. Now we hear that the NA six definitely won't fit in a stock 718 chassis. Any use of an NA engine would require a non-standard production run (expensive) and a non-standard rear subframe (expensive).

Any future GT4, if they want it to be reasonably priced (i.e. £70-75k base price) is nailed on to be 4-cylinder turbo IMHO.

[J-P]

Twinfan said:

All non-motorsport NA sixes are now out of production, as is the 981 chassis. Now we hear that the NA six definitely won't fit in a stock 718 chassis. Any use of an NA engine would require a non-standard production run (expensive) and a non-standard rear subframe (expensive).

Any future GT4, if they want it to be reasonably priced (i.e. £70-75k base price) is nailed on to be 4-cylinder turbo IMHO.

If they do build a GT4 RS, it'll have the Motorsport NA engine from the 991 GT3.2 but detuned. And it will fit, base price will be higher though £85k I reckon.

[Mintbird]

please, porsche engineers will accomodate a NA flat six in an afternoon - redicilous to suggest they are not able to get a NA flat six back in there again - hahaha

[BubblesNW]

Mintbird said:

please, porsche engineers will accomodate a NA flat six in an afternoon - redicilous to suggest they are not able to get a NA flat six back in there again - hahaha

They could always give Ed China a call, he would be able to fit the engine from a 918 in a Cayman 718 no problem.
He could probably replace the sports buckets with proper armchairs as well.

[Twinfan]

I don't think we're saying it can't be done, obviously it can. It's the price point the car would have to be at that's the issue.

I think £70-£75k base is where the next GT4 will be aimed at, just below a base 911. No way a motorsport engine will be fitted for that price. If they make an RS, surely a regular GT4 would be produced too and I can't see one car with a 4-cyl turbo and one with an NA six. Nor can I see one with an old 911 NA engine and one with a motorsport engine.

I still think there's no RS version on the horizon and the next GT4 will be a true 718 with a 4-cylinder engine.

[PhantomPH]

Twinfan said:

I still think there's no RS version on the horizon and the next GT4 will be a true 718 with a 4-cylinder engine.

I would assume (and it's probably a safe assumption) that Porsche will have been exceptionally hard at work recently trying to address the single biggest 'complaint' on the 718, which is the emotion of the engine...probably specifically it's sound. If they could deliver a turbo'd GT4 that howled like a banshee and perhaps gave off some of this childish turbo noises, I suspect they won't have too much of a problem shifting them.

I'll be honest and say that having only been an F6 owner for a few weeks I already cannot imagine anything else (sensibly priced) coming close to the sound that thing makes when the revs get silly. I wouldn't want a new GT4[RS] to sound less exciting than that.

Edited by PhantomPH on Friday 3rd February 12:31