Child's booster seat in bucket seats?

Child's booster seat in bucket seats?

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bungle

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1,874 posts

239 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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OK, probably a stupid question that I know the answer to already, but are there any (thin) booster seats that can fit a bucket seat (ie. such as this):



I guess not, but if anyone would know I thought it would be on here!

Much as I love the seats, if i can never have kids in them it kind of puts (yet another) nail in the "practicality" box for everyday use frown . Will restrict my search to non-buckets if nothing available.

Thanks smile

Frrair

1,365 posts

133 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Hi Bungle

Yes there is, see attached photos, I have finished with it if you would like it drop me a line.



Cheers
Ed

chrisABP

1,112 posts

147 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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I have one from Halfords which not only fits but also kinda matches the trim too! It's a Pampero and the narrowest one they do.

Here is a pic of it in mine, hope it helps.


Frrair

1,365 posts

133 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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ellroy

7,000 posts

224 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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Word to the wise, the rules on kiddie seats has just/is just about to change.

I think booster seats are now a no no.

dreamcar

1,067 posts

110 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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bungle said:
OK, probably a stupid question that I know the answer to already, but are there any (thin) booster seats that can fit a bucket seat (ie. such as this):



I guess not, but if anyone would know I thought it would be on here!

Much as I love the seats, if i can never have kids in them it kind of puts (yet another) nail in the "practicality" box for everyday use frown . Will restrict my search to non-buckets if nothing available.

Thanks smile
Porsche state that child seats must not be used with bucket seats. Go to the configurator and select the info button for bucket seats and it says so there very clearly!

chriscoates81

482 posts

131 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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ellroy said:
Word to the wise, the rules on kiddie seats has just/is just about to change.

I think booster seats are now a no no.
I think booster seats are allowed, they just need to have a back to them (not sure if that would be better or worse for buckets.

dreamcar

1,067 posts

110 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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chriscoates81 said:
I think booster seats are allowed, they just need to have a back to them (not sure if that would be better or worse for buckets.
With Porsche's warning I wouldn't even risk a booster. Why even take a remote chance with a child's safety? A Porsche dealer technical Dept (not a salesman)! would advise the proper answer, but the law is definitely tightening on booster cushions.

Magic919

14,126 posts

200 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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The law won't affect existing ones.

bungle

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239 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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wow, PHs delivers again in record time smile

Frrair said:
Yes there is, see attached photos, I have finished with it if you would like it drop me a line.
Very kind Ed, really appreciate it, but I am still looking, and trying to work out whether to rule out buckets or not. Appreciate you posting the model info too.

ellroy said:
Word to the wise, the rules on kiddie seats has just/is just about to change.

I think booster seats are now a no no.
Thanks. I remember reading about potential law changes going forward, but I think (need to check) that you are allowed to keep using any seats already bought, but they were going to stop selling boosters with no backs? I'd better look into.

dreamcar said:
Porsche state that child seats must not be used with bucket seats. Go to the configurator and select the info button for bucket seats and it says so there very clearly!
Blimey, that wouldn't even have registered with me, but you are spot on:


Porsche configurator said:
Lightweight racing seats with folding backrest, integrated thorax airbag and manual fore/aft adjustment. Seat shell made from glass-/carbon-fibre reinforced plastic with carbon-weave finish, seat in smooth-finish leather in interior colour. Note: child seats must not be used with the sports bucket seats
But why? I hate when statements are made for no (obvious to me) reason. Because the seats are more angled (bucket), so in some way this is less safe with a booster?

chrisABP said:
I have one from Halfords which not only fits but also kinda matches the trim too! It's a Pampero and the narrowest one they do.

Here is a pic of it in mine, hope it helps.

That looks great, looks OEM-fit! But after thinking I wanted buckets as I can use a booster I now want (need) to know why Porsche say it's a no.

I might post in the "car seat" thread, and see if any experts on there can shed any light.

beanoir

1,327 posts

194 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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I have the Sparco booster seat posted in the GT4 seats above, word of warning though if you have the Cayman R buckets (which Bungle you do) then it doesn't fit!!


bungle

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239 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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beanoir said:
I have the Sparco booster seat posted in the GT4 seats above, word of warning though if you have the Cayman R buckets (which Bungle you do) then it doesn't fit!!
Thanks beanoir. But afraid I don't have those, I'm still looking! (just posted as an example).

jimmyslr

798 posts

272 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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I can't see what the problem with children in a bucket seat would be. They are like an overgrown child's seat, the little person has a 6 point belt and there's no way they are slipping out sideways. I use mine happily, usually with a small booster, but more so that junior can see out. Unless someone proves otherwise, I'm happy and it sounds like health and safety gone mad.

ellroy

7,000 posts

224 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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I'd guess that the issue with buckets is not the seat per se, but that you can't get the isofix for them as a full child seat won't fit.

As far as I know that's the only way to get a switch to turn off the airbag, which is a definite big no no for kiddies.

beanoir

1,327 posts

194 months

Sunday 22nd January 2017
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jimmyslr said:
I can't see what the problem with children in a bucket seat would be. They are like an overgrown child's seat, the little person has a 6 point belt and there's no way they are slipping out sideways. I use mine happily, usually with a small booster, but more so that junior can see out. Unless someone proves otherwise, I'm happy and it sounds like health and safety gone mad.
Depends how old the child is, but I know with our 6 year old the seat belt was round his neck/throat without a booster seat...so not really the perfect position...


dreamcar

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110 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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I am frankly amazed at the irresponsibility of some folk here. Porsche advice not to use child seats with the sport bucket seats and yet some choose to ignore that and use them anyway. That warning isn't made just for the fun of it.

I can only extrapolate the attitude that some would appear to be content to risk possible serious injury or worse to their young children just for the sake of having their preferred car seat. Quite staggering.

beanoir

1,327 posts

194 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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dreamcar said:
I am frankly amazed at the irresponsibility of some folk here. Porsche advice not to use child seats with the sport bucket seats and yet some choose to ignore that and use them anyway. That warning isn't made just for the fun of it.

I can only extrapolate the attitude that some would appear to be content to risk possible serious injury or worse to their young children just for the sake of having their preferred car seat. Quite staggering.
Oh look the fun police have arrived.

Do you actually know why Porsche advise that? If the answer is 'No' then your comment is far from helpful.

Porsche's advice refers to 'child restraint systems', which booster seats are not.


Edited by beanoir on Monday 23 January 08:08

dreamcar

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110 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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beanoir said:
dreamcar said:
I am frankly amazed at the irresponsibility of some folk here. Porsche advice not to use child seats with the sport bucket seats and yet some choose to ignore that and use them anyway. That warning isn't made just for the fun of it.

I can only extrapolate the attitude that some would appear to be content to risk possible serious injury or worse to their young children just for the sake of having their preferred car seat. Quite staggering.
Oh look the fun police have arrived.

Do you actually know why Porsche advise that? If the answer is 'No' then your comment is far from helpful.

Porsche's advice refers to 'child restraint systems', which booster seats are not.


Edited by beanoir on Monday 23 January 08:08
What a stupid and sarcastic comment to make. Under EU rules all car seats are tested for safety and compatibility for child seats / restraints. Sport bucket seats are a no compromise design which are not designed to child seats and do not therefore meet the required safety standards to use them. If you are irresponsible enough to ignore that warning and put your child at potential risk of harm then you are a total idiot.

Cheib

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174 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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ellroy said:
As far as I know that's the only way to get a switch to turn off the airbag, which is a definite big no no for kiddies.
This!

Buckets or Normal Seats...Booster with a Back or Not. All kind of irrelevant if you put them in a front seat without the airbag turned off.

I am pretty amazed at how few cars have the "Isofix" box ticked as without this in Cayster/911 you can't turn the airbag off and I reckon most cars at some stage have kids in the front passenger seat.

beanoir

1,327 posts

194 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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dreamcar said:
What a stupid and sarcastic comment to make. Under EU rules all car seats are tested for safety and compatibility for child seats / restraints. Sport bucket seats are a no compromise design which are not designed to child seats and do not therefore meet the required safety standards to use them. If you are irresponsible enough to ignore that warning and put your child at potential risk of harm then you are a total idiot.
Is that the correct reason you can't put a booster seat in a Porsche bucket seat, what's your source? I've never heard that before, and it's not what Porsche say either.

Consider this, I'm allowed to drive a child around in a 1980's Ford Fiesta with the seat mounted in the front, the car is made of tin and the seats are hardly what I'd call secure, lets not even consider what the seat belts aren't doing. But because there is no law or advice from the manufacturer to say I can't or shouldn't it means I'm not crossing the boundary of child neglect? I can tell you for one thing, any child is safe in a booster seat in the bucket seat of a modern Porsche than that.

I'd suggest you stop dishing out advice to people do with their own children as its not really your concern.








Edited by beanoir on Monday 23 January 12:43