GT3-based R-light is coming

GT3-based R-light is coming

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Dr S

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4,997 posts

226 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Just got contacted by my OPC with a rather cryptic offer. My rep just called it a GT3 and "the car that I was waiting for" (especially after Porsche let me down twice with the R).

It looks like it's going to be manual (which we already know will be an option) and with an aero without wing (which I explicitly asked for). I reckon it must be the car that Porsche engieenrs tested as 991T (for Touring) last Summer.

Anyone else got contacted and might know more? That I am excited is an understatement

KevinBird

1,036 posts

207 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Is this it?


porkgts

112 posts

92 months

Thursday 23rd February 2017
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Dr S said:
Just got contacted by my OPC with a rather cryptic offer. My rep just called it a GT3 and "the car that I was waiting for" (especially after Porsche let me down twice with the R).

It looks like it's going to be manual (which we already know will be an option) and with an aero without wing (which I explicitly asked for). I reckon it must be the car that Porsche engieenrs tested as 991T (for Touring) last Summer.

Anyone else got contacted and might know more? That I am excited is an understatement
Ohhh, I've said to my OPC several times my dream car is a GT3 with rear seats..... wonder if this will happen? Do you think PDK will be an option as I couldn't go back to manual...

gbrown2014

220 posts

113 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Dr S said:
Just got contacted by my OPC with a rather cryptic offer. My rep just called it a GT3 and "the car that I was waiting for" (especially after Porsche let me down twice with the R).

It looks like it's going to be manual (which we already know will be an option) and with an aero without wing (which I explicitly asked for). I reckon it must be the car that Porsche engieenrs tested as 991T (for Touring) last Summer.

Anyone else got contacted and might know more? That I am excited is an understatement
I understand that a number of VIP customers were flown out to see this car in late September alongside a cabriolet version of the R(speedster?), will of course be a plaque car. That seems to be the only public detail available at the moment. Congratulations on the allocation

Tony 1234

3,465 posts

227 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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porkgts said:
Ohhh, I've said to my OPC several times my dream car is a GT3 with rear seats..... wonder if this will happen? Do you think PDK will be an option as I couldn't go back to manual...
Been told manual only!!!

APOLO1

5,256 posts

194 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Dr S said:
Just got contacted by my OPC with a rather cryptic offer. My rep just called it a GT3 and "the car that I was waiting for" (especially after Porsche let me down twice with the R).

It looks like it's going to be manual (which we already know will be an option) and with an aero without wing (which I explicitly asked for). I reckon it must be the car that Porsche engieenrs tested as 991T (for Touring) last Summer.

Anyone else got contacted and might know more? That I am excited is an understatement
Sounds like Face lift etc from the 991.1 GTS, MT version. Good car to drive.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

104 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Hmmm, I wonder where it will sit in the range and what engine it will have.

The 991.1 GTS engine is out of production, unless they're going to do a run of them for this 911T and for another GT4 - that would make sense regarding production costs and keep the 'R' as the version that had the motorsport engine....

n17ves

591 posts

178 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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All these rumours are starting to become a joke.

There hasn't been any communication of a 911T / GT3 Lite at the dealers. If there had been a VIP day (I doubt it), then it must have been done outside of the OPC network and ran directly from Porsche.

At a guess they may allow an option to de wing a GT3 from factory, but they (as do I) may see this a pointless exercise when a GTS's and R's (albeit not in production) already exist.


996GT2

2,649 posts

210 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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n17ves said:
At a guess they may allow an option to de wing a GT3 from factory, but they (as do I) may see this a pointless exercise when a GTS's and R's (albeit not in production) already exist.
This is kind of how I see this. If you want a GT3 without the wings, you don't want a GT3. As my nan used to say.


MDL111

6,935 posts

177 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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996GT2 said:
n17ves said:
At a guess they may allow an option to de wing a GT3 from factory, but they (as do I) may see this a pointless exercise when a GTS's and R's (albeit not in production) already exist.
This is kind of how I see this. If you want a GT3 without the wings, you don't want a GT3. As my nan used to say.
I actually want a 997.2 GT3RS without wing, which is what I will have if I ever pull together the money to buy one. I do not need the wing as on a country or mountain road, I will not go fast enough to get a benefit from it and I do prefer the look without wing and stickers, but still want the engine, cage, plastic windows, PCCBs etc., lightweight buckets (and a few after market weight saving things).

I however have no interest in buying a GTS with a lowish revving standard engine.

If Porsche builds me 911 with the GT3 engine and witout wings that I can actually buy (without jumping through a gazillion hoops), but with all available weight saving options plus a cage, I might get more interested in their new cars again

996GT2

2,649 posts

210 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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MDL111 said:
996GT2 said:
n17ves said:
At a guess they may allow an option to de wing a GT3 from factory, but they (as do I) may see this a pointless exercise when a GTS's and R's (albeit not in production) already exist.
This is kind of how I see this. If you want a GT3 without the wings, you don't want a GT3. As my nan used to say.
I actually want a 997.2 GT3RS without wing, which is what I will have if I ever pull together the money to buy one. I do not need the wing as on a country or mountain road, I will not go fast enough to get a benefit from it and I do prefer the look without wing and stickers, but still want the engine, cage, plastic windows, PCCBs etc., lightweight buckets (and a few after market weight saving things).

I however have no interest in buying a GTS with a lowish revving standard engine.

If Porsche builds me 911 with the GT3 engine and witout wings that I can actually buy (without jumping through a gazillion hoops), but with all available weight saving options plus a cage, I might get more interested in their new cars again
Fair enough. I suppose from my perspective I think the 997.2 GT3 RS wing is a thing of beauty and just looks right on the car, it's part of the GT3 DNA, so I can't really rationalise the need to remove it - but I guess it takes all sorts.


MDL111

6,935 posts

177 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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996GT2 said:
MDL111 said:
996GT2 said:
n17ves said:
At a guess they may allow an option to de wing a GT3 from factory, but they (as do I) may see this a pointless exercise when a GTS's and R's (albeit not in production) already exist.
This is kind of how I see this. If you want a GT3 without the wings, you don't want a GT3. As my nan used to say.
I actually want a 997.2 GT3RS without wing, which is what I will have if I ever pull together the money to buy one. I do not need the wing as on a country or mountain road, I will not go fast enough to get a benefit from it and I do prefer the look without wing and stickers, but still want the engine, cage, plastic windows, PCCBs etc., lightweight buckets (and a few after market weight saving things).

I however have no interest in buying a GTS with a lowish revving standard engine.

If Porsche builds me 911 with the GT3 engine and witout wings that I can actually buy (without jumping through a gazillion hoops), but with all available weight saving options plus a cage, I might get more interested in their new cars again
Fair enough. I suppose from my perspective I think the 997.2 GT3 RS wing is a thing of beauty and just looks right on the car, it's part of the GT3 DNA, so I can't really rationalise the need to remove it - but I guess it takes all sorts.
Don't get me wrong, I do like the wing, but for my use I prefer the less in your face look of just a ducktail - in grey or blue it will look just like any other 911 to most people and not attract attention

Dr S

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4,997 posts

226 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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n17ves said:


At a guess they may allow an option to de wing a GT3 from factory, but they (as do I) may see this a pointless exercise when a GTS's and R's (albeit not in production) already exist.
I am looking for an R-type of car - not yet another GT3/RS.

n17ves

591 posts

178 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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Dr S said:
I am looking for an R-type of car - not yet another GT3/RS.
Your best hope of that is if they decide build a speedster version of the R as one of the last 991.2 cars. Nothing to say they will though.

gbrown2014

220 posts

113 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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n17ves said:
Dr S said:
I am looking for an R-type of car - not yet another GT3/RS.
Your best hope of that is if they decide build a speedster version of the R as one of the last 991.2 cars. Nothing to say they will though.
it does exist, a few of the VIP's have seen it according to Rennlist

n17ves

591 posts

178 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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gbrown2014 said:
it does exist, a few of the VIP's have seen it according to Rennlist
Must be true then. laugh

Any links?



gbrown2014

220 posts

113 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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n17ves said:
gbrown2014 said:
it does exist, a few of the VIP's have seen it according to Rennlist
Must be true then. laugh

Any links?
The quote i remember was from a guy called C.j Ichban whose info has historically been watertight as he is high up the list with Porsche but i don't fancy scrolling through 90+ pages to find it, link is where Footsoldier confirms there was a showing of the speedster(probably worth having a quick skim back and forth for any more detail)

http://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-and-911r/...

Upnorthgt3

605 posts

143 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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If these rumours are true (big if), then the above is already starting to grate and induce a here we go again feeling.......

VIPs, plaque car, limited number blah blah - what about making a car you can walk into an OPC and actually buy without getting ripped off having to pay some flippers 'overs' - wouldn't that be an amazing concept?

If it was available 'to buy' (and IF they make it that is), I would absolutely love to buy something like this as a NEW car.

footsoldier

2,258 posts

192 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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The R speedster "mock up" was shown to 918 owners at Geneva last year, in a back room...
Not all owners, just the ones who were there as part of the Spyder Circle trip, which also involved being flown on IWC's private jet to the watch factory, dinners, R advance screening etc, they all paid for the privilege, but it did happen.

As for this year's model - I think there will be a GT3 PDK, and then there will be something else with manual etc, but it won't just be a swap of the box and a 'wing delete'

mdianuk

2,890 posts

171 months

Friday 24th February 2017
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This seems about right, so we may be expecting the GT3 to be PDK only, and another GT3 model with the manual option, probably with some other trick bits and a whacking great price. Porsche PR at its finest!