944 2.5 cnonversion to 3.0 back to 2.5

944 2.5 cnonversion to 3.0 back to 2.5

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blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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Maybe the car has been a 2.5 16v from day one...

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Saturday 4th March 2017
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speedyman said:
The early problems with the s1 were mainly due to the cam chain tensioner being a non maintenance item and failing. Soon as I got my car when it was 13 years old and 49k on the clock was change it, Plus all belts and tensioners. Belts and tensioners were replaced at three year intervals after that. By the time the s2 was on the scene this issue was more understood by owners who followed this as a maintenance schedule.
Wasn't my talking about what happened in the early-mid nineties a clue that I didn't need telling what the problem was?

Also: 'S1' is a made-up name. It is a 944S, or Super. Calling anything S1 only encourages the S2 means series two therefor all cars which precede it are S1 wallys.

binsie2003

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23 posts

210 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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GC8 said:
binsie2003 said:
He's right you know, and an engine number will tell me all I need to know.

I only run a M44/50 engined Turbo myself, never been a fan of the 16v set up. Its my neighbours project I'm just lending an eye and hand!
Id be interested to see this, along with the build sticker, VIN and date of production if you have it.
Are you the Police LOL

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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No, but I am something of an enthusiast. The majority of 951s have an M44/51.

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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I only really need the last five characters of the VIN.

binsie2003

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23 posts

210 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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I was only teasing, I guessed you were. I reckon I could learn a lot from you as I always knew my car was an early example but 2 years ago I was a Porsche meet at Hedingham Castle when a knowledgeable fella approached me and declared he had never seen an earlier 944 turbo. My registration document says it's an 86, but I rummaged around in my box file where I found the original West German registration document (its a LHD import by the way) which shows its manufacturing date as 26/04/85 and registration as 29/10/1985 the Porsche certificate of authenticity records it as an M44/50 engine. I believe this car to be one of the original 178 first manufactured and the M44/50 being one of only 400 engines manufactured. Perhaps you can correct these figures if I'm mistaken? I have owned the car since 2006. I'm thinking this is quite a special car, and was wondering how many 0f the original 178 were left?

Regards

Steve

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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Very rare indeed Steve, predating the introduction of the series two 944, which was developed from the Turbo.

Does your car have a 1985 year identifier in the VIN (10th character)?

binsie2003

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23 posts

210 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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I'll check it out when I get in, the German registration document does record it as manufactured in April 1985.

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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No, the majority of 944 Turbos have an M44/51. M44/52s are in a minority.

speedyman

1,524 posts

234 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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GC8 said:
speedyman said:
The early problems with the s1 were mainly due to the cam chain tensioner being a non maintenance item and failing. Soon as I got my car when it was 13 years old and 49k on the clock was change it, Plus all belts and tensioners. Belts and tensioners were replaced at three year intervals after that. By the time the s2 was on the scene this issue was more understood by owners who followed this as a maintenance schedule.
Wasn't my talking about what happened in the early-mid nineties a clue that I didn't need telling what the problem was?

Also: 'S1' is a made-up name. It is a 944S, or Super. Calling anything S1 only encourages the S2 means series two therefor all cars which precede it are S1 wallys.
I'm aware there was no s1 only s2 I used the term to differentiate the two S models. And the 8v non turbos were known as Lux. Try not to be to sensitive its only a discussion.

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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No they weren't. Lux was a trim level.

speedyman

1,524 posts

234 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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GC8 said:
No they weren't. Lux was a trim level.
Źzzzzzzzzz only if your an anorak, http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-germancars/944-...

binsie2003

Original Poster:

23 posts

210 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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Last 5 numbers of VIN read 40185.

Regards

Steve

binsie2003

Original Poster:

23 posts

210 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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10th character is 'G'

binsie2003

Original Poster:

23 posts

210 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm 'G' indicates 1986, but the year of production clearly says 26 April 1985??

binsie2003

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23 posts

210 months

Sunday 5th March 2017
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Factory fitted with FUCHS and Bilstein Sports Suspension.

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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speedyman said:
GC8 said:
No they weren't. Lux was a trim level.
?zzzzzzzzz only if your an anorak, http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-germancars/944-...
You are, or you're. I am not an anorak - I simply know what I am talking about, unlike you (be that simple grammar and spelling or FrontRunners).

You're an idiot: be quiet.

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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binsie2003 said:
Last 5 numbers of VIN read 40185.

Regards

Steve
185th car, less pre-prods, so possibly the 168th production car built.

Im not surprised to see that theyre 1986 model year cars, but it is nice to have the theory confirmed.

The M44/50 is the most interesting part, for me. I have seen your similar thread on TIPEC it would be great if you could post a little about your car either there or on the PCGB 944 forum.

speedyman

1,524 posts

234 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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GC8 said:
speedyman said:
GC8 said:
No they weren't. Lux was a trim level.
?zzzzzzzzz only if your an anorak, http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-germancars/944-...
You are, or you're. I am not an anorak - I simply know what I am talking about, unlike you (be that simple grammar and spelling or FrontRunners).

You're an idiot: be quiet.
No I won't, what I said was true. Now go and bore someone else. Your condescending manner shows you up to be a prize dick head.

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Monday 6th March 2017
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binsie2003 said:
I'm thinking this is quite a special car,