Panamera 4E Hybrid ST thoughts

Panamera 4E Hybrid ST thoughts

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CSK423

Original Poster:

763 posts

208 months

Tuesday 26th September 2023
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After doing a bit of digging on these recently and exploring the purchase costs I've found them pretty reasonable in relation to other marques.

Looking at the 22 or 23 MY and interested in the e-hybrid primarily due to the elec range, although limited. I know with all porsche products the options list is varied however the platinum edition tends to pick up the most desirable.

I've also noticed that in a PCP scenario the GFV of the current panamera have dropped, suspect this is due to the MY24 about to be released in Nov.

Any pros/cons to the E-Hybrid model also is the 4S worth the extra few £k's ? Also interested to hear peoples thoughts on colours. Too many greys and blacks, really like the carmine Red and Gentian Blue but not sure if they impact resale.

BartW

1,693 posts

170 months

Tuesday 26th September 2023
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I have ordered my sport turismo on Saturday.

2.9v6 e hybrid platinum.

Why platinum?

Because it comes with:
- decent big wheels (otherwise £4k option)
- tinted glass
- sunroof
- SOFT CLOSING DOORS
- metallic included
- 14 way seats
- heated steering (but you need to select this option even though it is free)
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GFV @ 15k miles and 36 months is around £72k. This is a few (a couple I think maybe) K higher than hatch, so easier on a monthly.


JohnnyUK

761 posts

79 months

Wednesday 27th September 2023
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BartW said:
I have ordered my sport turismo on Saturday.

2.9v6 e hybrid platinum.

Why platinum?

Because it comes with:
- decent big wheels (otherwise £4k option)
- tinted glass
- sunroof
- SOFT CLOSING DOORS
- metallic included
- 14 way seats
- heated steering (but you need to select this option even though it is free)
-

GFV @ 15k miles and 36 months is around £72k. This is a few (a couple I think maybe) K higher than hatch, so easier on a monthly.
Waiting on delivery in Feb next year of a PTS Macan - any views on direction of PCP APRs? What are they currently?

BartW

1,693 posts

170 months

Wednesday 27th September 2023
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Current PCP stood at 10.9% APR.

I have received details of PCH which although slightly dearer (about £30 per month), seems a better offer.

It's to do with capital write down / car depreciation, now only @ 6% per year for anything above 50g CO2. So pants really.

PCH is treated as rental so full payments can be corp tax deductible.

Sorry for my 2p accountancy bit wink

JohnnyUK

761 posts

79 months

Wednesday 27th September 2023
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BartW said:
Current PCP stood at 10.9% APR.

I have received details of PCH which although slightly dearer (about £30 per month), seems a better offer.

It's to do with capital write down / car depreciation, now only @ 6% per year for anything above 50g CO2. So pants really.

PCH is treated as rental so full payments can be corp tax deductible.

Sorry for my 2p accountancy bit wink
But I presume that's not possible for a PAYE bod?

BartW

1,693 posts

170 months

Wednesday 27th September 2023
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Yes different with PAYE, but you could probably get car allowance, or charge business mileage if you use for business trips.

Only a thought!

CSK423

Original Poster:

763 posts

208 months

Friday 15th March
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I'm still keeping an eye on these. The used APR seems to be varied from 11.9% down to 9.9%.

The platinum ST e-hybrid seems to have a GFV of c£62k 20k miles and 48mths.

The figures therefore seem reasonable especially with a new model round the corner but I just can't let go of the SUV seating position. Anyone stepped down into one from a SUV ?

Ev112

35 posts

197 months

Friday 15th March
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Got one fairly recently, primarily to replace a FFRR. Aside from boot space it’s miles better.

Even my wife who loved the Range Rover is very happy with it. It’s not a small car, which I think reduces the difference, but the better handling is immediately apparent and just means it feels more secure.

bigblock

772 posts

199 months

Wednesday 20th March
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I bought a two year old 4S hybrid three months ago and it’s all been positive so far. Very fast when you need it to be and also comfortable for four adults and being the Sport Turismo has a bit of extra space for luggage or the dog.

It gives an average of 23 miles electric range which is enough for my daily driving and I charge it up for free at the office. At weekends I drive it in the sport setting which has the engine permanently on and keeps the battery power for added boost when required smile

If you really push it through the bendy bits you can feel the weight but it handles well enough to have fun and the brakes are excellent. I wasn’t much interested in a Panamera until the Sport Wagon was introduced, there is something about that low estate like design that I like.



Edited by bigblock on Wednesday 20th March 15:31

Ed.Neumann

421 posts

9 months

Wednesday 20th March
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Certainly one of the best looking Porsches out there, and such a shame they have dropped it on the new model.

That is probably due to US buyers? But I don't understand saloon cars really, so what do I know?

CSK423

Original Poster:

763 posts

208 months

Friday 22nd March
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Interesting to hear the SUV to Panamera step has been a win. I need to go for another poke around I think over the weekend.

That's a lovely Gentian Blue ? example above.

On reading about the new model, I expected there to be a ST but apparently not. I wonder if this is helping drive down the value current cars in stock.