Early 911 - Engine Rebuild Costs

Early 911 - Engine Rebuild Costs

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mph

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2,332 posts

282 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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I've heard some astronomical prices bantered around for rebuilding these engines (1960's models).

Are they expensive to rebuild and if so, why ? Who can do it and what is a typical cost ?

Another reason I ask is that I know the whereabouts of a 911E that may be for sale. It needs restoring.

hot66

695 posts

217 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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depends on what you class as expensive ?

There are quite a few hours involved in rebuilding a 911 engine properly. The big costs can come from the parts & until you open the motor up you won't know what's needed .. also a lot of the parts are N/A these days too

Parts prices is a problem ... if you need Barrels & Pistons you could be looking at £3.5K for mahle , cheaper for AA / JE .

Of course, once the motor is rebuilt, you'll then want all the induction system sorted too , so rebuilt carbs or rebuilt MFI, which all adds to the costs .. new heat exchangers? There's another £1K etc

mph

Original Poster:

2,332 posts

282 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Well there's a 2.2T currently advertised with an engine rebuild cost of £24k by Tech 9.

I would consider that expensive.

thegoose

8,075 posts

210 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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A 1960's 911E that you already know needs restoring will probably cost closer to £100k than £50k to do properly. Of that, the engine could cost £4k-£12k?

shoestring7

6,138 posts

246 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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thegoose said:
A 1960's 911E that you already know needs restoring will probably cost closer to £100k than £50k to do properly. Of that, the engine could cost £4k-£12k?
Sounds about right, I part-rebuilt my 2.4 (pistons&barrels, cams, gasket set, headwork) for around £3k (and then spent the same again on a set of carbs). Add £2k for bearings and a oil pump and £3-4k for a professional's time and you're at £8-9K. Which is about what I spent on a very straightforward pro-rebuild on my 964.

SS7

hot66

695 posts

217 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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mph said:
Well there's a 2.2T currently advertised with an engine rebuild cost of £24k by Tech 9.

I would consider that expensive.
that's expensive ... for that money you'd expect to be building something special

a £10K engine budget is a good starting point ... could be more , could be less . Finding the right specialists is the key , including machine shops, builders, suppliers etc

BertBert

19,037 posts

211 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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my gut says ballpark 12k. The absolute maniac 3.2 short stroke engine I drove recently reputedly cost 22k. That included a conversion to EFI and lots and lots of stuff. It was utterly awesome!

Glaston

58 posts

190 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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My very recent 964 rebuild came in at £14K, which included new clutch and flywheel, new cams, etc, etc plus about £800 on new oil lines including the one under the offside rear arch = £350!!

However having said that I now have a "new" 24 year old car.

Well worth it in my book as it saves me a fortune on oil.

rubystone

11,254 posts

259 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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Amazing...to rebuild my 365's V12 is about £12k....a 911 engine is just as simple really. In the '80s and '90s I had Martin Harvey rebuild a 2.4e and a 964RS. Neither cost me over £3k....rates and parts must've increased dramatically!

mudy

874 posts

172 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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Glaston said:
My very recent 964 rebuild came in at £14K
Well worth it in my book as it saves me a fortune on oil.
That's a heck of a lot of oil!

My 930 top end rebuild came in at £7k 4 years ago but that was part subsidised by the garage I bought from - closer to £10k would be realistic

drmark

4,836 posts

186 months

Saturday 4th October 2014
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rubystone said:
Amazing...to rebuild my 365's V12 is about £12k....a 911 engine is just as simple really. In the '80s and '90s I had Martin Harvey rebuild a 2.4e and a 964RS. Neither cost me over £3k....rates and parts must've increased dramatically!
We would all be fooked if prices hadn't risen since then! £3k in the mid eighties is equivalent to £9k today. Add in another 25% to reflect relative scarcity of parts given the cars are 25+ years older and 12k hardly a dramatic leap. That said, the few people today who can build these properly know how to charge. And who can blame them given the value of the cars?

Cedric's Dad

91 posts

173 months

Saturday 4th October 2014
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Talk to Steve Jr. at Statller in Sheffield.

I think you may be in for a pleasant surprise!