More hype and plain silliness

More hype and plain silliness

Author
Discussion

Crimp

909 posts

188 months

Friday 20th March 2015
quotequote all
g7jhp said:
fredt said:
Interest rates at 0, and not likely to move for like.. err forever..

Real estate already left the harbor a long time ago..

Overlooked for a long time Carerras looked expensive @20k 2-3 years ago are now looking cheap at 40.

Not surprising really.

I do not know many people who would turn down a car because it was too cheap and telling the seller to up his price, so why are you condemning traders doing the same? Trader bashing is getting tedious, they are just doing what they always did, buy and sell cars. Now with bigger profit. If you think they are making too much money start a company and get trading...

smile
I agree just like houses sellers aren't going to leave money on the table if people are willing to pay and that's fair enough.

Of all the Porsche independents I think 911 Virgin seems to find the right balance around pricing. You pay a premium for a car but it's backed by a reputation (I have no connection to 911 Virgin, although I must pay them a visit at some point).

Others independents put cars up for fantasy amounts and hope they find a 'fat cat' who's needs that car whatever the cost.

Finding a solid well maintained 911 at a sensible price is hard enough for enthusiasts and a minefield to the untrained.
Yeah 911v tend to turn cars around pretty swiftly.
I have dealt with them historically when I sold my GT2 and purchased a 996 turbo from them, they promptly did all the work I requested and delivered the car to my home address which is a long way from where they are based. Good outfit.
The cars are usually their own stock too rather than SOR like many of the other traders/dealers

roygarth

2,673 posts

249 months

Friday 20th March 2015
quotequote all
fredt said:
I do not know many people who would turn down a car because it was too cheap and telling the seller to up his price, so why are you condemning traders doing the same? Trader bashing is getting tedious, they are just doing what they always did, buy and sell cars. Now with bigger profit. If you think they are making too much money start a company and get trading...

smile
Soo many new dealers have opened up last 18 months...all fighting for stock.

P50

Original Poster:

1,034 posts

164 months

Friday 20th March 2015
quotequote all
roygarth said:
fredt said:
I do not know many people who would turn down a car because it was too cheap and telling the seller to up his price, so why are you condemning traders doing the same? Trader bashing is getting tedious, they are just doing what they always did, buy and sell cars. Now with bigger profit. If you think they are making too much money start a company and get trading...

smile
Soo many new dealers have opened up last 18 months...all fighting for stock.
There's 60 odd wanted ads on Pistonheads.

Who would you choose?! Why bother if they're so easy to sell at huge money! DIY!

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Crimp

909 posts

188 months

Friday 20th March 2015
quotequote all
Know a few dealers.
Stock is a massive problem and has been for a while, hence a lot of them have moved over to the more modern stuff nowadays.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Friday 20th March 2015
quotequote all
Have dealers priced themselves out of good stock?

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Friday 20th March 2015
quotequote all
Have dealers priced themselves out of good stock?

P50

Original Poster:

1,034 posts

164 months

Friday 20th March 2015
quotequote all
SidewaysSi said:
Have dealers priced themselves out of good stock?
Which is why SOR is in vogue. Lovely contract and everyone's a winner..

(except the punter it seems...!)

Crimp

909 posts

188 months

Friday 20th March 2015
quotequote all
P50 said:
SidewaysSi said:
Have dealers priced themselves out of good stock?
Which is why SOR is in vogue. Lovely contract and everyone's a winner..

(except the punter it seems...!)
Absolutely, too many snouts in the trough

RSVP911

8,192 posts

134 months

Friday 20th March 2015
quotequote all
Crimp said:
Yeah 911v tend to turn cars around pretty swiftly.
I have dealt with them historically when I sold my GT2 and purchased a 996 turbo from them, they promptly did all the work I requested and delivered the car to my home address which is a long way from where they are based. Good outfit.
The cars are usually their own stock too rather than SOR like many of the other traders/dealers
Dealt with them too - great outfit smile

Axel987

274 posts

110 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
quotequote all
ro55a said:
I remember only 6-7 years ago going to look at a Celebration G50 car, 75k miles, good condition and at £12k. And do you know what, not kicking myself, it just wasn't that special.
I find this SC and 3.2 thing all a little bit silly now. I am sure other will most definitely disagree but it's gone a bit mad of late. I was speaking to a dealer recently who was selling an 87 targa super sport at £34,995 and next to it was an absolute mint black on black, one owner 996 Turbo for the same money. Now I have owned very,very good SC's and 3.2s and have driven a 996 turbo and cannot see why you would buy the older cars for the same money? I bought both mine in the £10k bracket 6-7 years ago and drove them both daily, superb, incredible cars.............for £10k but at £35k....please.
As the thread suggests HYPE. I would have another 3.2 tomorrow and am in the market but I am not paying that money, hence it will probably cool down if people start thinking the same.

I suppose it all fits with the plethora of "vintage" 911 videos popping up all over the place, adding to the fever. Picture the scene, sunlight rising, trees gently blowing in the wind, guy gently rubs his hand against his vintage, patina'd jeans. He is in his workshop with his file, working to fashion a leather strap for the door pull. He is from Birmingham but now lives in Califronia, oh the dream......the dream. He wipes himself down and CLUNK the door opens and he gets in fires the beast and we are off. He is close to tears as he regails us with stories rich in the very fabric of porsche, as genuine as any pascha pattern. He takes a corner at a heady 45mph, the drama, the noise, the soul........ooooops he has just cum on his patina'd denim. As the thick,warm and as yet coagulated liquid reaches his racing shoes, which Ferdinand gave him personally, he pulls up at the side of the road. He gets out to watch the day begin, with a vista before him more spectacular than mere words could ever convey. This is the dream brothers, this is the life for me........now where that £35k and how do I grow dreadlocks?

Edited by ro55a on Friday 19th December 19:05


Edited by ro55a on Friday 19th December 19:07
Just had to bump this gem....post of the bloody year rofl

Axel987

274 posts

110 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
quotequote all
ro55a said:
I remember only 6-7 years ago going to look at a Celebration G50 car, 75k miles, good condition and at £12k. And do you know what, not kicking myself, it just wasn't that special.
I find this SC and 3.2 thing all a little bit silly now. I am sure other will most definitely disagree but it's gone a bit mad of late. I was speaking to a dealer recently who was selling an 87 targa super sport at £34,995 and next to it was an absolute mint black on black, one owner 996 Turbo for the same money. Now I have owned very,very good SC's and 3.2s and have driven a 996 turbo and cannot see why you would buy the older cars for the same money? I bought both mine in the £10k bracket 6-7 years ago and drove them both daily, superb, incredible cars.............for £10k but at £35k....please.
As the thread suggests HYPE. I would have another 3.2 tomorrow and am in the market but I am not paying that money, hence it will probably cool down if people start thinking the same.

I suppose it all fits with the plethora of "vintage" 911 videos popping up all over the place, adding to the fever. Picture the scene, sunlight rising, trees gently blowing in the wind, guy gently rubs his hand against his vintage, patina'd jeans. He is in his workshop with his file, working to fashion a leather strap for the door pull. He is from Birmingham but now lives in Califronia, oh the dream......the dream. He wipes himself down and CLUNK the door opens and he gets in fires the beast and we are off. He is close to tears as he regails us with stories rich in the very fabric of porsche, as genuine as any pascha pattern. He takes a corner at a heady 45mph, the drama, the noise, the soul........ooooops he has just cum on his patina'd denim. As the thick,warm and as yet coagulated liquid reaches his racing shoes, which Ferdinand gave him personally, he pulls up at the side of the road. He gets out to watch the day begin, with a vista before him more spectacular than mere words could ever convey. This is the dream brothers, this is the life for me........now where that £35k and how do I grow dreadlocks?

Edited by ro55a on Friday 19th December 19:05


Edited by ro55a on Friday 19th December 19:07
Just had to bump this gem....post of the bloody year rofl

fredt

847 posts

148 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
quotequote all
Axel987 said:
Just had to bump this gem....post of the bloody year rofl
That's not a gem, that's someone making a fool of himself. Learn the difference lad!

Axel987

274 posts

110 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
quotequote all
Swedes are not known for their sense of humor wink

He`s taking the piss out of the aircooled market, and rightly so hehe

fredt

847 posts

148 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
quotequote all
Axel987 said:
Swedes are not known for their sense of humor wink

He`s taking the piss out of the aircooled market, and rightly so hehe
Anyone judging 2 cars, which are 30k years apart, on performance is a fool. Fact

smile

fredt

847 posts

148 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
quotequote all
anonymous said:
[redacted]
True. Shouldn't have mentioned performance, point is a comparison like that is stupid. It's like comparing truffles to strawberries

FaBooker

20 posts

110 months

roygarth

2,673 posts

249 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
quotequote all

mph

2,337 posts

283 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
quotequote all
I don't live in Birmingham and I don't want to live in California. I do like air cooled Porsches though.

The assumption that something is worth more simply because it's more competent than an earlier model wipes out the whole classic car movement overnight. And 3.2 Carreras at £10k - he'll be waiting a long time to buy one.

Post of the year. I don't think so.



Frio3535

595 posts

136 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
quotequote all


26k mi, hexagon asking £60k.

P50

Original Poster:

1,034 posts

164 months

Saturday 21st March 2015
quotequote all
Frio3535 said:


26k mi, hexagon asking £60k.
A 928 aint no 911.

I happen to like them but they're a long legged GT and are not terribly "widow making"

Miles is lord and Hexagon like to charge..

60k? see title!