More hype and plain silliness

More hype and plain silliness

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V8KSN

4,711 posts

184 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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P50 said:
labrit said:
The difference between us is that i don't care what it owes me either. Like i said - you're a miserable git that clearly can't afford the car they want, hence the thread.
Whoever buys your bastardised abortion of a Porsche deserves what they get.

I could buy your car in a blink of an eye but wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.


My 3.2 cost a lot less than your "thing" and is original throughout. I'm simply tired of seeing old junk being priced way in excess of grade A machines.

A short while back old nasty 3.2's were converted into lookalikes as their value was paltry. Noone would mess up a really nice car so its not hard to do the maths is it?

labrit

321 posts

183 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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P50 said:
Whoever buys your bastardised abortion of a Porsche deserves what they get.

I could buy your car in a blink of an eye but wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.


My 3.2 cost a lot less than your "thing" and is original throughout. I'm simply tired of seeing old junk being priced way in excess of grade A machines.

A short while back old nasty 3.2's were converted into lookalikes as their value was paltry. Noone would mess up a really nice car so its not hard to do the maths is it?
Sure you can!!

Koln-RS

3,856 posts

212 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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Are people really buying these 're-born' bitzas?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Much prefer a genuine, original, unmolested, low mileage, full history, nicely spec'd, sensibly priced, example everytime.

lboase

120 posts

122 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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Koln-RS said:
Are people really buying these 're-born' bitzas?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Much prefer a genuine, original, unmolested, low mileage, full history, nicely spec'd, sensibly priced, example everytime.
I also have a preference for originality however that white SC does have an amazing engine build, and it was rebuilt from a rolling shell. There is a thread detailing the build over on DDK. I like it a lot. No idea if the price is right but if someone is considering an SC resto and similar engine build then this would be a cheaper route.

hondansx

4,566 posts

225 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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Whilst i agree it is silly that unloved and poor (relatively) 911s are rising in value merely due to a reliance on reflected glory, i object to modified cars being 'bastardised.' Most of these 'recreations' look better than stock and will probably drive better too. I only see the appeal of standard cars if they are truly rare. Even then, as long as it's reversible, who cares?

P50

Original Poster:

1,034 posts

163 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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I think a G50 Coupe SSE with 75K miles un-welded/original good leather etc is say £40k +- IMPHO in today’s market.

A 140k mile SSE with lots of “patina” one must assume is comfortably less sold as seen. Perhaps 20k if it needs an engine rebuild/trim/bodywork. So I am simply struggling to understand that fitting a set of IROC bumpers elevates its value to £80k together with remedial work it needs anyway to get a half decent price.

The owner is understandably getting irked by my analysis of this situation and as has resorted to insulting me.

This is a public forum and one is free to air ones views is one not?! I’ve seen a hyped market before and I’m seeing it all again…

vpr

3,708 posts

238 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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Mine for sale here

Think it's looking value tbh

http://www.charmansautomotive.co.uk/showroom/62/po...

IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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vpr said:
Mine for sale here

Think it's looking value tbh

http://www.charmansautomotive.co.uk/showroom/62/po...
looks superb and superb value

P50

Original Poster:

1,034 posts

163 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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IMI A said:
vpr said:
Mine for sale here

Think it's looking value tbh

http://www.charmansautomotive.co.uk/showroom/62/po...
looks superb and superb value
Now this is where I'd put my hard earned.

pork911

7,115 posts

183 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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P50 your original point in difference in values gets a little lost with the ego.

Anyhow, so original that yours is (though I don't think you've owned it from new) how much rust do you think it has?

P50

Original Poster:

1,034 posts

163 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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pork911 said:
P50 your original point in difference in values gets a little lost with the ego.

Anyhow, so original that yours is (though I don't think you've owned it from new) how much rust do you think it has?
none - ziebarted and garaged from new. i've been over it with a fine tooth comb. even has the paper barcode sticker on the N/S door shut.

1st owner was an old bloke who owned an engineering business in the north

which is why it's not red with red wheels/linen piped red. quite an unfashionable spec in '88



david hockney

1,200 posts

153 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Here is a nice original 3.2.....with only 190,000 on the clock and two owners- priced to sell !!

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

I'm always slightly suspicious when half of the advert is a history lesson on 911 models rather than an accurate description of the car being sold.

g7jhp

6,961 posts

238 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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david hockney said:
Here is a nice original 3.2.....with only 190,000 on the clock and two owners- priced to sell !!

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

I'm always slightly suspicious when half of the advert is a history lesson on 911 models rather than an accurate description of the car being sold.
It's been for sale for a while, which isn't surprising as it's quite a marmite colour combination.

Koln-RS

3,856 posts

212 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Quite like the colour, but less keen on the mileage (at that price).

lboase

120 posts

122 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Koln-RS said:
Quite like the colour, but less keen on the mileage (at that price).
+1

mph

2,326 posts

282 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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I like the body colour, not sure about the interior but it does make a change. Mileage a bit high for the price.

What about this one, similar price range but low miles ?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

g7jhp

6,961 posts

238 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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Koln-RS said:
Quite like the colour, but less keen on the mileage (at that price).
Agree if it was £25k it would be an interesting buy. Personally I'd add a set of fuchs (and keep the telephone dials for originality) and a set of matching brown recaros (similar to the below).



IMI A

9,410 posts

201 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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david hockney said:
Here is a nice original 3.2.....with only 190,000 on the clock and two owners- priced to sell !!

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

I'm always slightly suspicious when half of the advert is a history lesson on 911 models rather than an accurate description of the car being sold.
gorgeous but surely thats a £15k car? mental at £35k no matter how pretty it is

david hockney

1,200 posts

153 months

Thursday 16th October 2014
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lboase said:
Koln-RS said:
Quite like the colour, but less keen on the mileage (at that price).
+1
Strange how certain colours suit certain cars- I think yellow looks great on an old 911 like this...
yet on a Jag E Type I think yellow looks awful.

James B

1,302 posts

244 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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I think this thread adequately demonstrates that the market for aircooled IB cars is reasonably wild at the moment!

In my garage I have a '77 911 Carrera 3.0 Sport Targa (not the easiest of names to get out!!) that my grandfather bought new for my grandmother. Its completely original spec and looks-wise and has covered 39k miles with FPSH but I did get the engine rebuilt last year as it was infuriatingly leaky and had the box done at the same time.

The car is under used these days only getting 500 or so miles per annum so seeing the way the IB cars prices are I'm interested to see what the market would pay. I was offered £35k for it by someone who spotted it at the place it went for the rebuild.





I'm still not sure I could bring myself to let the car go as its been in the family so long but if there are crazy people throwing money at IB cars like the examples earlier in the thread then I may chance my arm! haha!