potential first Porsche classic buyer?
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mollytherocker said:
200Plus Club said:
Thats another gen 1 997, I thought you didnt want this era of cars? i'm going to spend all week i can see getting my head round the models before narrowing it down. older shape cars definitely float the boat more, but with the current price bubble i'm scared of buying something overpriced, under serviced and tired or rotten underneath.
200Plus Club said:
having spent all weekend looking, frankly i dont know what exactly i want lol! so much choice around. saying that, £25-40k budget seems to bring me slap bang into the modern era cars with potential bearing or bore scoring issues, so i'd be very wary anyway.
i'm going to spend all week i can see getting my head round the models before narrowing it down. older shape cars definitely float the boat more, but with the current price bubble i'm scared of buying something overpriced, under serviced and tired or rotten underneath.
Its confusing if you are new to this stuff as there are many models and sub models! Its hard to advise on the 996 to 997.1 era (Non GT3/GT2/Turbo) models as there are few real facts around and most on here cant agree either!i'm going to spend all week i can see getting my head round the models before narrowing it down. older shape cars definitely float the boat more, but with the current price bubble i'm scared of buying something overpriced, under serviced and tired or rotten underneath.
Research the subject on these engines and make your own mind up. There are upgrades and ways to limit the risk of failures but all come with a cost.
But then again, air cooled cars are now old and could easily cost the same or more in other costs!
Its a minefield really, but its fun negotiating your way through and you can definitely win!
What I think we can say, is that if you want a 'drive and go' 911 with relatively low maintenence costs, you probably want a gen 2 997. These start at 30k for a miley one.
mollytherocker said:
200Plus Club said:
having spent all weekend looking, frankly i dont know what exactly i want lol! so much choice around. saying that, £25-40k budget seems to bring me slap bang into the modern era cars with potential bearing or bore scoring issues, so i'd be very wary anyway.
i'm going to spend all week i can see getting my head round the models before narrowing it down. older shape cars definitely float the boat more, but with the current price bubble i'm scared of buying something overpriced, under serviced and tired or rotten underneath.
Its confusing if you are new to this stuff as there are many models and sub models! Its hard to advise on the 996 to 997.1 era (Non GT3/GT2/Turbo) models as there are few real facts around and most on here cant agree either!i'm going to spend all week i can see getting my head round the models before narrowing it down. older shape cars definitely float the boat more, but with the current price bubble i'm scared of buying something overpriced, under serviced and tired or rotten underneath.
Research the subject on these engines and make your own mind up. There are upgrades and ways to limit the risk of failures but all come with a cost.
But then again, air cooled cars are now old and could easily cost the same or more in other costs!
Its a minefield really, but its fun negotiating your way through and you can definitely win!
What I think we can say, is that if you want a 'drive and go' 911 with relatively low maintenence costs, you probably want a gen 2 997. These start at 30k for a miley one.
I know that this may add further confusion to your search but have you thought looking beyond the 911.
For your budget you could get:
Excellent 968 Club Sport/Sport: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Manual 928: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Boxster Spyder (if you are quick - although grab a low mileage one rather than the 30k miles ones up for sale).
I have already did the classic 911 (964 Targa) and although the car was great and loved it, got a bit fed up with those unexpected bills that need to get rectified. If it was my only sports car then I would have kept it but did not justify the money vs miles.
George
For your budget you could get:
Excellent 968 Club Sport/Sport: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Manual 928: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Boxster Spyder (if you are quick - although grab a low mileage one rather than the 30k miles ones up for sale).
I have already did the classic 911 (964 Targa) and although the car was great and loved it, got a bit fed up with those unexpected bills that need to get rectified. If it was my only sports car then I would have kept it but did not justify the money vs miles.
George
Edited by douglasgdmw on Monday 2nd March 13:06
Edited by douglasgdmw on Monday 2nd March 13:08
douglasgdmw said:
I know that this may add further confusion to your search but have you thought looking beyond the 911.
For your budget you could get:
Excellent 968 Club Sport/Sport: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Manual 928: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Boxster Spyder (if you are quick - although grab a low mileage one rather than the 30k miles ones up for sale).
I have already did the classic 911 (964 Targa) and although the car was great and loved it, got a bit fed up with those unexpected bills that need to get rectified. If it was my only sports car then I would have kept it but did not justify the money vs miles.
George
no it would have to be a 911 shape for me i'm afraid, the 928/944/968 and boxter dont do it for me. the Cayman does look nice however. For your budget you could get:
Excellent 968 Club Sport/Sport: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Manual 928: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Boxster Spyder (if you are quick - although grab a low mileage one rather than the 30k miles ones up for sale).
I have already did the classic 911 (964 Targa) and although the car was great and loved it, got a bit fed up with those unexpected bills that need to get rectified. If it was my only sports car then I would have kept it but did not justify the money vs miles.
George
Edited by douglasgdmw on Monday 2nd March 13:06
Edited by douglasgdmw on Monday 2nd March 13:08
See if you can grab a 911 3.2 SuperSport. Basically a Turbo without the engine. They are and will always be worth more than a narrow body, and currently are at the top end of your budget.
They're fairly thin on the ground though.
964s are more expensive than IBs, 993s are perfect every day type 911s but not sure if they'd be special enough for a weekend car.
They're fairly thin on the ground though.
964s are more expensive than IBs, 993s are perfect every day type 911s but not sure if they'd be special enough for a weekend car.
Digitalize said:
See if you can grab a 911 3.2 SuperSport. Basically a Turbo without the engine. They are and will always be worth more than a narrow body, and currently are at the top end of your budget.
They're fairly thin on the ground though.
964s are more expensive than IBs, 993s are perfect every day type 911s but not sure if they'd be special enough for a weekend car.
Personally I'd go for a standard narrow bodied 3.2 Carrera over a Supersport because they drive better and are lighter, but each to their own.They're fairly thin on the ground though.
964s are more expensive than IBs, 993s are perfect every day type 911s but not sure if they'd be special enough for a weekend car.
All I'd suggest if it's a weekend car is naturally aspirated 2wd manual coupe is the way to go - 3.2, 964, 993, 997.2 (or 996 turbo with 4wd if it's a 996).
200Plus Club said:
Blib said:
Yeah. It's above your stated budget. 
Mission creep?
haha! my main failing is mission creep on budget ! Mission creep?
£12,000 later...............................
Blib said:
I do similar. 'frinstance, last year I bought a 1970 Fiat 500 to just polish up and give to Mrs Blib as a birthday present.
£12,000 later...............................
Thanks for the warning! I keep looking at 'used' ones at around 5k and think I could do a quick sprucing up.£12,000 later...............................
I mean, how hard can it be?
mollytherocker said:
Blib said:
I do similar. 'frinstance, last year I bought a 1970 Fiat 500 to just polish up and give to Mrs Blib as a birthday present.
£12,000 later...............................
Thanks for the warning! I keep looking at 'used' ones at around 5k and think I could do a quick sprucing up.£12,000 later...............................
I mean, how hard can it be?
However, I justified every single increase to myself. It finally got a bit weird when I convinced myself to swap it over from LHD to RHD.
But, there was no-one to stop me!! MWAHAHAHAHA!!!
g7jhp said:
All I'd suggest if it's a weekend car is naturally aspirated 2wd manual coupe is the way to go - 3.2, 964, 993, 997.2 (or 996 turbo with 4wd if it's a 996).
But that's such a huge range of different driving experiences. Now you have bto go and test drive loads to see what you actually like!
Top man.BertBert said:
g7jhp said:
All I'd suggest if it's a weekend car is naturally aspirated 2wd manual coupe is the way to go - 3.2, 964, 993, 997.2 (or 996 turbo with 4wd if it's a 996).
But that's such a huge range of different driving experiences. Now you have bto go and test drive loads to see what you actually like!I'd then go and try an a couple of aircooled cars and a couple of watercooled cars. You'll soon know whether you enjoy the feel of older cars or need something newer.
Might be a good idea to try to get to a Porsche owners club meeting and get a passenger ride (as cars might be in better condition).
It's never easy for someone if like the OP they come in wanting a 911 but don't know which one.
g7jhp said:
Well it cuts it down from a lot of other variables if you decide you want a coupe, manual etc.
I'd then go and try an a couple of aircooled cars and a couple of watercooled cars. You'll soon know whether you enjoy the feel of older cars or need something newer.
Might be a good idea to try to get to a Porsche owners club meeting and get a passenger ride (as cars might be in better condition).
It's never easy for someone if like the OP they come in wanting a 911 but don't know which one.
its another good point. Its got to be manual and coupe and 2wd, that much i know. And thats about it so far. The budget wouldn't allow for anything that needed major work so it would hopefully be checked over if need be by a specialist. Its a minefield tbh and thankfully I'm in no rush.I'd then go and try an a couple of aircooled cars and a couple of watercooled cars. You'll soon know whether you enjoy the feel of older cars or need something newer.
Might be a good idea to try to get to a Porsche owners club meeting and get a passenger ride (as cars might be in better condition).
It's never easy for someone if like the OP they come in wanting a 911 but don't know which one.
200Plus Club said:
its another good point. Its got to be manual and coupe and 2wd, that much i know. And thats about it so far. The budget wouldn't allow for anything that needed major work so it would hopefully be checked over if need be by a specialist. Its a minefield tbh and thankfully I'm in no rush.
I think you have the right attitude! Enjoy the ride.bigunit00 said:
I wouldn't, but we're all different.Gassing Station | Porsche Classics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff