potential first Porsche classic buyer?

potential first Porsche classic buyer?

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thegoose

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Monday 2nd March 2015
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Blib said:
mollytherocker said:
Blib said:
I do similar. 'frinstance, last year I bought a 1970 Fiat 500 to just polish up and give to Mrs Blib as a birthday present.

£12,000 later...............................paperbag
Thanks for the warning! I keep looking at 'used' ones at around 5k and think I could do a quick sprucing up.

I mean, how hard can it be?
The car cost less than £4k.

However, I justified every single increase to myself. It finally got a bit weird when I convinced myself to swap it over from LHD to RHD.

But, there was no-one to stop me!! MWAHAHAHAHA!!!
The next series of "For The Love Of Cars" features a Fiat 500 (it was with the others at the Coys auction at Autosport) so you might find it interesting. I've no idea what it made either but I guess it can be found on Coys website.

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278 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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bigunit00 said:
I would go for something like this

http://www.rpmtechnik.co.uk/sales/vehicle/996-carr...
That looked great until i saw the interior :-) bit too light for my taste. Looks good value though and they are doing the bearing upgrade!
Would people be happy thats the end of the issue if its done ?

BertBert

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211 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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g7jhp said:
BertBert said:
g7jhp said:
All I'd suggest if it's a weekend car is naturally aspirated 2wd manual coupe is the way to go - 3.2, 964, 993, 997.2 (or 996 turbo with 4wd if it's a 996).
But that's such a huge range of different driving experiences. Now you have bto go and test drive loads to see what you actually like!
Well it cuts it down from a lot of other variables if you decide you want a coupe, manual etc.

I'd then go and try an a couple of aircooled cars and a couple of watercooled cars. You'll soon know whether you enjoy the feel of older cars or need something newer.

Might be a good idea to try to get to a Porsche owners club meeting and get a passenger ride (as cars might be in better condition).

It's never easy for someone if like the OP they come in wanting a 911 but don't know which one.
so if it were me I'd test drive a 3.2 and a 993 for aircooled, a 996 turbo and a 997.2 cor water cooled., then you can binary chop between air and kettle.
Bert

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BertBert said:
g7jhp said:
BertBert said:
g7jhp said:
All I'd suggest if it's a weekend car is naturally aspirated 2wd manual coupe is the way to go - 3.2, 964, 993, 997.2 (or 996 turbo with 4wd if it's a 996).
But that's such a huge range of different driving experiences. Now you have bto go and test drive loads to see what you actually like!
Well it cuts it down from a lot of other variables if you decide you want a coupe, manual etc.

I'd then go and try an a couple of aircooled cars and a couple of watercooled cars. You'll soon know whether you enjoy the feel of older cars or need something newer.

Might be a good idea to try to get to a Porsche owners club meeting and get a passenger ride (as cars might be in better condition).

It's never easy for someone if like the OP they come in wanting a 911 but don't know which one.
so if it were me I'd test drive a 3.2 and a 993 for aircooled, a 996 turbo and a 997.2 cor water cooled., then you can binary chop between air and kettle.
Bert
that good sir is an excellent plan, and i'm hoping to make a start this weekend!

Orangecurry

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Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Your geographical location?

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Orangecurry said:
Your geographical location?
south yorkshire

Orangecurry

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I won't offer you a go in mine then. Though in hindsight you'd probably hate it - solid suspension, too low, no understeer - very unpleasant.

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Orangecurry said:
I won't offer you a go in mine then. Though in hindsight you'd probably hate it - solid suspension, too low, no understeer - very unpleasant.
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why do you say that?

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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
There is some apparently choice cars around within budget.

Orangecurry

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Orangecurry said:
I won't offer you a go in mine then. Though in hindsight you'd probably hate it - solid suspension, too low, no understeer - very unpleasant.
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why do you say that?
Because it isn't standard. I wouldn't want to put you off the 993.

The 'handling' on my car is very much on the RS side of the fence. Some people can find it a bit much.

For example, as the car's 'height' is at roughly RS+5 yet I don't have front RS uprights/track rods, I imagine the geometry at the front, though set-up by someone who knows what they are doing, introduces too much bump-steer.

One MOT tester a few years ago said 'I've no idea if your shock absorbers are working, as the suspension is too hard'.

Though this does remind me of a critical point for you on your journey of discovery...

Many 993s that come up for sale are on original and tired suspension - worn components/bushes/shocks/top-mounts.

If you test-drive such a car, you might wonder why anyone reckons they are a good driver's car.

The thing to remember is that you can get them to behave exactly as you wish - though it can take a few attempts to get it 'right' for you.

Digitalize

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135 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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I don't understand how you can be wanting a 'classic' Porsche yet are considering a watercooled model?

Orangecurry

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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
There is some apparently choice cars around within budget.
As you've linked to a 964C4...

You may or may not know that the AWD system changed significantly between the 964 and the 993.

DYOR as they say, but AFAIK the 964 features a proper three-diff system, with a 31/69 split ? derived from the 959.

The 993 has two diffs and a VC in the middle, which transfers a minimum 5% to the front, but after one of the rears starts to slip will transfer more to the front.

So you'll need even *more* test drives? hehe

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Orangecurry said:
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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
There is some apparently choice cars around within budget.
As you've linked to a 964C4...

You may or may not know that the AWD system changed significantly between the 964 and the 993.

DYOR as they say, but AFAIK the 964 features a proper three-diff system, with a 31/69 split ? derived from the 959.

The 993 has two diffs and a VC in the middle, which transfers a minimum 5% to the front, but after one of the rears starts to slip will transfer more to the front.

So you'll need even moree test drives? hehe
haha! love it! any excuse! :-)


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Digitalize said:
I don't understand how you can be wanting a 'classic' Porsche yet are considering a watercooled model?
no am just floating options at the minute. the budget seemed to slap bang me in the scary world of "classics" that might need just as much spending on them again as all the restored type cars are rocketing up. having been looking for a week now it looks like i need to do more research on the 993 964 models in addition to the classics. seen a few nice looking cars on't net but would have to go to see in the flesh or drive now.