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Poorsh said:
I finally bought a C2 after nearly 6 months of dithering around, at just under £40K my purchase cost was nearly double what I had originally budgeted. I’m now going through the process of learning how to take care including maintaining the appearance of my Grey Wolf. I’ve spent endless hours washing, clay baring, polishing and waxing in the hope I would be able to remove any light swirls, from 2 feet away the Wolf is stunning but a closer inspection revels a number of issues and thus I’ll have to pay for professional paint correction at a cost of between £600-£1000. Engine bay is a generally good with the exception of the fan which is average. I spent some time cleaning applying degreaser to the fan but found it very tricky to access. Is it okay to rotate the fan by hand, I didn’t try to force it as it feels ridged. 
Lovely 911.To get the fan looking good it's really a job of removing it (hope you have small hands) and getting it media blasted. Pic attached of mine from an '88 Carrera having had some gentle water based media blasting.
Wow your fan looks new, I think mine has some scrapes and may need a bit of filler if possible). Are you saying this process is doable with out fan removal?.
smudger911 said:
Lovely 911.
To get the fan looking good it's really a job of removing it (hope you have small hands) and getting it media blasted. Pic attached of mine from an '88 Carrera having had some gentle water based media blasting.
To get the fan looking good it's really a job of removing it (hope you have small hands) and getting it media blasted. Pic attached of mine from an '88 Carrera having had some gentle water based media blasting.
Edited by Poorsh on Monday 14th September 19:44
The car is going to my local garage RGA Porsche for tarting up the fan next week. I decided against the paint correction as the overall quality is very good/excellent. I would like to do more but don't know much about process i.e. changing the brakes to larger 993 and also wheels are still an issue, whilst I really like the RUF I feel RH Speedline maybe required.
My cleaning technique is now solid after watching hours of Larry of AMMO NYC clean and prepare his black 964. I'll stick pics of the engine up once its done.
My cleaning technique is now solid after watching hours of Larry of AMMO NYC clean and prepare his black 964. I'll stick pics of the engine up once its done.
avaF1 said:
update...........?
Lovely colour....
Don't be scared of a gentle/progressive DIY polishing - take your time and get the correct tools and the results are both worthwhile and satisfying.
Also IMO I'd source some lightweight 17" (probably OE) rims so you can have the best driving experience.
Excuse my poor photography... but you get the general result.
Before
After
Don't be scared of a gentle/progressive DIY polishing - take your time and get the correct tools and the results are both worthwhile and satisfying.
Also IMO I'd source some lightweight 17" (probably OE) rims so you can have the best driving experience.
Excuse my poor photography... but you get the general result.
Before
After
What machine and compound did you use, looks great.
Orangecurry said:
Lovely colour....
Don't be scared of a gentle/progressive DIY polishing - take your time and get the correct tools and the results are both worthwhile and satisfying.
Also IMO I'd source some lightweight 17" (probably OE) rims so you can have the best driving experience.
Excuse my poor photography... but you get the general result.
Before
After
Don't be scared of a gentle/progressive DIY polishing - take your time and get the correct tools and the results are both worthwhile and satisfying.
Also IMO I'd source some lightweight 17" (probably OE) rims so you can have the best driving experience.
Excuse my poor photography... but you get the general result.
Before
After
Kestrel DAS6
Various compounds, but mostly Menzerna Power finish, Meguiars 83 and 80, and two pads, one 'medium' with the Menz and the 83, and one 'gentle' with the 80 to finish off (IIRC).
Many cloths.
Take your time. Read the advice on the polishing forums, practice on something else first if you wish.
Roof centre and bonnet centre are back-breaking work, so choose yourself just one panel to do and then STOP and rest. As long as you complete a panel and then seal it with the sealant of your choice, you can take long breaks before the next panel. Obviously if dust settles on the next panel in the meantime, wash/rinse it first.
Various compounds, but mostly Menzerna Power finish, Meguiars 83 and 80, and two pads, one 'medium' with the Menz and the 83, and one 'gentle' with the 80 to finish off (IIRC).
Many cloths.
Take your time. Read the advice on the polishing forums, practice on something else first if you wish.
Roof centre and bonnet centre are back-breaking work, so choose yourself just one panel to do and then STOP and rest. As long as you complete a panel and then seal it with the sealant of your choice, you can take long breaks before the next panel. Obviously if dust settles on the next panel in the meantime, wash/rinse it first.
Oh and I've got a clearcoat on mine, and almost all is factory paintwork - both mean that no colour (silver) appeared on the pads.
If you don't have a clearcoat, you'll get colour coming off, and it's here that you also need to make judgements on paint depth, whether the car has had a respray and what might go wrong.
What you should do is use a paintdepthometer first.
As I said - READ the polishing forums properly.
If you don't have a clearcoat, you'll get colour coming off, and it's here that you also need to make judgements on paint depth, whether the car has had a respray and what might go wrong.
What you should do is use a paintdepthometer first.
As I said - READ the polishing forums properly.
I arrived at Elite Detailing in Knightsbridge with my 964, after 5 mins inspecting the cars paint Gersh the owner said "£10k repaint". He's appraisal didn't frighten me considering the quality of cars parked in his workshop, which included: 2 Zonda's, a Bugatti Veyron, a Ferrari Enzo with a Mclaren P1 on its way out the door. I confirmed the car was not prefect and didn't expect him to make it so, we then moved onto what he could do to improve the appearance.
I'm not entirely sure what to expect but I'll post before and after pics once it's done.
I'm not entirely sure what to expect but I'll post before and after pics once it's done.
Poorsh said:
I arrived at Elite Detailing in Knightsbridge with my 964, after 5 mins inspecting the cars paint Gersh the owner said "£10k repaint". He's appraisal didn't frighten me considering the quality of cars parked in his workshop, which included: 2 Zonda's, a Bugatti Veyron, a Ferrari Enzo with a Mclaren P1 on its way out the door. I confirmed the car was not prefect and didn't expect him to make it so, we then moved onto what he could do to improve the appearance.
I'm not entirely sure what to expect but I'll post before and after pics once it's done.
Sounds like he's giving himself a get out clause. I'm not entirely sure what to expect but I'll post before and after pics once it's done.
Why pick a detailer in Knightsbridge, do you want to pay extra?
Poorsh said:
I arrived at Elite Detailing in Knightsbridge with my 964, after 5 mins inspecting the cars paint Gersh the owner said "£10k repaint". He's appraisal didn't frighten me considering the quality of cars parked in his workshop, which included: 2 Zonda's, a Bugatti Veyron, a Ferrari Enzo with a Mclaren P1 on its way out the door. I confirmed the car was not prefect and didn't expect him to make it so, we then moved onto what he could do to improve the appearance.
I'm not entirely sure what to expect but I'll post before and after pics once it's done.
Sorry, but that's just wierd. Why just come out with "it needs a repaint" before discussing what can be achieved via correction etc. Sounds like they like to work on exotics and new car details, which for the most part are a lot easier than working on a old car, or at least they will be well paid for doing it. Personally if I received that response I would have gone elsewhere. I'm not entirely sure what to expect but I'll post before and after pics once it's done.
Maybe the guy was having an off day, who knows.
S1MMA said:
Sorry, but that's just wierd. Why just come out with "it needs a repaint" before discussing what can be achieved via correction etc. Sounds like they like to work on exotics and new car details, which for the most part are a lot easier than working on a old car, or at least they will be well paid for doing it. Personally if I received that response I would have gone elsewhere.
Maybe the guy was having an off day, who knows.
I suspect due to he's exotic client list and their demands for the best he presumed I wanted the same. After clarifying i have intention of spending £10k on a paint job we swiftly moved on to what could be achieved with existing. Perhaps the way I phrased my initial comment made it sound he's not interested but in reality he's happy to take on the car.Maybe the guy was having an off day, who knows.
Slate grey is the colour, apparently the fastest color too (i am biased) A friend had his RS detailed at KDS and it looked stunning, they are a bit further away in Gillingham and also on pricey side I expect. If willing to go west on M40 (1hr drive) then I have a good guy that does mine and a lot cheaper. Also in same area is a good painter that has done work for me as well as other 911 and classics .... He does windows out for 5k but you do get top quality work.
I did flirt with the idea of polishing it myself but ended up leaving it to pros as these old cars have had various bits & pieces done & painted so more often than not paint work is not consistent across the car meaning that each panel/side could well be a whole different story.
I did flirt with the idea of polishing it myself but ended up leaving it to pros as these old cars have had various bits & pieces done & painted so more often than not paint work is not consistent across the car meaning that each panel/side could well be a whole different story.
There's another Kent based one; super car detailing. He is a Porsche specialist too, owning a GT3 RS himself.
I do think it is all a bit OTT though; i'd rather spend the money on goodies! Those who spend every weekend detailing their cars should spend more time actually driving them, IMO.
I do think it is all a bit OTT though; i'd rather spend the money on goodies! Those who spend every weekend detailing their cars should spend more time actually driving them, IMO.
Poorsh said:
EXACTLY!
I'll get the paint corrected then more onto possibly BIG RED brake conversion, Steve did you produce a How To PDF for the brake conversion?
Sorry Old Chap, only just seen your question. I fitted a set of 993 turbo big red callipers on the front. You will need to buy an adaptor bracket set so that they fit the hubs - several tuners sell them. I used 964 turbo front discs. Rest set up, standard 993C2 rear callipers along with 964RS rear discs. These fit straight on without any adapting. this set up will move the braking bias forward which I what I prefer. I use pagid yellow pad set up. I'll get the paint corrected then more onto possibly BIG RED brake conversion, Steve did you produce a How To PDF for the brake conversion?
If you intend to track the car and are running sticky tyres then this set up will work well. On normal tyres, it's overkil and will trigger your abs regularly.
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