3.3 964 Turbo Realistic Price ?

3.3 964 Turbo Realistic Price ?

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g7jhp

6,964 posts

238 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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rubystone said:
The best way to find out what a car is worth is to simply ask the trade for a bid. Then if you decide to sell it privately, add 25% to that price and you'd be at retail.

Or put it out to auction and see what they guide it at.

Maybe I missed it, but I'm guessing that by 'mint' it has less than 4 owners and below 40,000 miles on the clock?
The OP says it's done 60,000 miles. Since when does mint require less than 4 owners and below 40,000 miles?

There are a few areas I would put back to factory specification to make it original:

- The steering wheel to be replaced by the original
- New set of standard mats
- Removal of the Porsche badge on the glovebox lid (if it's aftermarket)

CRA1G

6,528 posts

195 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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Oh dear oh dear... Why did I sell my Rubystone 25,000 miles for £50K.... cry

But better to have loved and lost than never loved.... biglaugh

Mondrian

52 posts

119 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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Autumn/winter is not usually the best time to sell, on the other hand recent auction sold/unsold prices have not been so great. If not in a hurry then put in up for sale in Spring, mind one never knows what prices will be like next year!

As for pricing, most private sellers tend to price their cars on par with respected dealers which is crazy as they can't offer the same services, assurance, track record etc ..... If I see two exact cars, one at a respected dealer and the other at the hands of a privateer with only 5% price difference then I'd happy pay more and buy from dealer so you might want to price it at 6-10% below dealers. Also make sure its priced to sell, pistonheads is already full of cars that have been up for sale for months & months (both dealers & privateers) even after a price drop. Those that are good cars and priced right are normally gone within a week or two.


Wozy68

5,390 posts

170 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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Legacywr said:
Wozy68 said:
Lovely looking car smile

I knew I should have bought that 964 Turbo from Phil Raby he had knocking around for ages four years ago at £22K frown
The Cobalt blue car? I looked at that when the previous owner had it.
Yes I think it was. I never saw it in the flesh, but I remember from the pics that it had non matching tyres on a couple of corners, so thought hmmmm, if they can't be bothered to match the tyres what else couldnt they be bothered to keep on top of.
Looking back, with the price of these now, could it have been such a money pit? I'm not so sure. But does non matching tyres mean anything?
If memory serves, Raby was dumbfounded it was taking so long to sell. That should have been enough of a push to buy it really. I regret I didnt have the guts, but saying that, back then I would have had zero extra money for any major spends anyway.

cwin

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953 posts

219 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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Mondrian said:
Autumn/winter is not usually the best time to sell, on the other hand recent auction sold/unsold prices have not been so great. If not in a hurry then put in up for sale in Spring, mind one never knows what prices will be like next year!

As for pricing, most private sellers tend to price their cars on par with respected dealers which is crazy as they can't offer the same services, assurance, track record etc ..... If I see two exact cars, one at a respected dealer and the other at the hands of a privateer with only 5% price difference then I'd happy pay more and buy from dealer so you might want to price it at 6-10% below dealers. Also make sure its priced to sell, pistonheads is already full of cars that have been up for sale for months & months (both dealers & privateers) even after a price drop. Those that are good cars and priced right are normally gone within a week or two.
I agree with this and would do the same, I sold a Weismann MF4 GT last year on SOR and it worked out ok, I think the new owner proberly paid a lot more than 5% tho more like 20% over what I got and that's why I am not keen on going this route again, I don't mind anyone making a decent mark up or profit but 20% is excessive.

The other reason it works better selling through a dealer is if the buyer need finance which a privateer can't offer.

I am really looking for a cash buyer who wants a very nice turbo without having to pay over the odds for.

Legacywr

12,111 posts

188 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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cwin said:
I agree with this and would do the same, I sold a Weismann MF4 GT last year on SOR and it worked out ok, I think the new owner proberly paid a lot more than 5% tho more like 20% over what I got and that's why I am not keen on going this route again, I don't mind anyone making a decent mark up or profit but 20% is excessive.

The other reason it works better selling through a dealer is if the buyer need finance which a privateer can't offer.

I am really looking for a cash buyer who wants a very nice turbo without having to pay over the odds for.
Was that the powder blue one?

cwin

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953 posts

219 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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Legacywr said:
Was that the powder blue one?
Yes,, it was.

Legacywr

12,111 posts

188 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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I liked that, what was it like to own?

m33ufo

4,959 posts

231 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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cwin said:
I am really looking for a cash buyer who wants a very nice turbo without having to pay over the odds for.
Let me know when you decide on a price.

Why not ask a few of the usual suspects what they'd offer you as a straight cash sale rather than SOR? Then price accordingly.

cwin

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953 posts

219 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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Legacywr said:
I liked that, what was it like to own?
It was a great car, went well and sounded awesome with the V8 Growl,, beautifully build, like a TVR built by Bently.

If I was to pick faults with it,it would be seats are very small across the back and tight if your over 13 stone, big off set on the pedals due to the width of the gearbox tunnel. 1st gear to low, that's it other than that.

cwin

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953 posts

219 months

Friday 23rd October 2015
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m33ufo said:
Let me know when you decide on a price.

Why not ask a few of the usual suspects what they'd offer you as a straight cash sale rather than SOR? Then price accordingly.
Will do,,

I may give this a try, no harm in asking the dealers ?

William10

206 posts

204 months

Saturday 24th October 2015
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Craig keep us all informed what the dealers come back with, It will be Interesting to know as yours is the Aniversary model which will have a premium over standard

I made an enquiry recently with a couple of dealers and trade price I was quoted on a standard turbo £50k - 60k the car had to be perfect and totaly origional as it left the Factory complete with all documentation and origional books showing optional extras ordered,

You could be lucky and get a cash bid most would offer a SOR

Look at the Silverstone Porsche Auctions 25-10-15 although no 964 3.3 turbo to compare it will give a guide to what people are prepared for porsches including modified and replicas,

You may be lucky and get £100k for yours

rubystone

11,252 posts

259 months

Sunday 25th October 2015
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g7jhp said:
The OP says it's done 60,000 miles. Since when does mint require less than 4 owners and below 40,000 miles?

There are a few areas I would put back to factory specification to make it original:

- The steering wheel to be replaced by the original
- New set of standard mats
- Removal of the Porsche badge on the glovebox lid (if it's aftermarket)
Sorry, had my investors head on there. So it's a multi owner car with 60k plus miles with ruffled leather interior. £52,000 retail, £40,000 trade.

dickyf

807 posts

225 months

Sunday 25th October 2015
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i have sent you a private mail as i am interested in the car
thanks
cwin said:
Just trying to find what is a realistic price for a very nice 964 Turbo with 60k, every mot (21 in total) and a nice file of history including top end rebuild 2000 miles ago ect..

Prices are all over the place and I want to sell at a fair, realistic price or put it in the auction with a reserve price that is again realistic.

The car was specked at Porsche Exclusive department in Reading, hence the colour, wheels, trim ect..








m33ufo

4,959 posts

231 months

Sunday 25th October 2015
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rubystone said:
Sorry, had my investors head on there. So it's a multi owner car with 60k plus miles with ruffled leather interior. £52,000 retail, £40,000 trade.
I'll take two please wink

gilbo

460 posts

200 months

Monday 26th October 2015
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William10 said:
Coys Auction NEC January could be worth a go ? there it will reach its true value.

Email them your Car details have a chat and then decide what you want to do,

Whatever you do, keep well away from Coys. They royally messed me about with the sale of my 355 at their Autosport auction. Absolute sheisters!

dickyf

807 posts

225 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2015
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I cant agree more. i am still waiting for Full payment for a car they sold nearly 6 weeks ago. No explanation or apology just stonewalled and bullst promises.
I will never ever use their appalling services ever again.
gilbo said:
Whatever you do, keep well away from Coys. They royally messed me about with the sale of my 355 at their Autosport auction. Absolute sheisters!

cwin

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953 posts

219 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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Sold.


9e 28

9,410 posts

201 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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cwin said:
Sold.
How much as a reference to PH massive? I felt your car was £80k + in current market day night long.

Legacywr

12,111 posts

188 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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Congratulations, but, you can't leave the thread like that! smile