1972 911T at Silverstone Auction
Discussion
This caught my eye, anyone know anything about this particular car?
https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/porsche-911-t-...
https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/porsche-911-t-...
Does look nice - colour, seats, rhd - but I think it will exceed the estimates, and +BP.
However, refurbishment costs will be expensive and it will always be a 'T'.
I'd go for a fairly thorough refresh to original spec., but with a few upgrades. 'T's are a bit slow, so perhaps get Nick Fullerjames to do his tricks with the engine.
However, refurbishment costs will be expensive and it will always be a 'T'.
I'd go for a fairly thorough refresh to original spec., but with a few upgrades. 'T's are a bit slow, so perhaps get Nick Fullerjames to do his tricks with the engine.
It hasn't been used a lot recently and passes its MOT!
https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/
MOT history of this vehicle
Test date21 July 2015 Expiry date13 August 2016 Test ResultPass Odometer reading2,651 miles MOT test number8555 4710 3583
Test date28 July 2014 Expiry date13 August 2015 Test ResultPass Odometer reading2,573 miles MOT test number2476 5990 4268
Test date30 July 2013 Expiry date13 August 2014 Test ResultPass Odometer reading2,479 miles MOT test number1752 9131 3251
Test date30 July 2012 Expiry date13 August 2013 Test ResultPass Odometer reading2,435 miles MOT test number9582 3251 2292
Test date26 July 2011 Expiry date13 August 2012 Test ResultPass Odometer reading2,272 miles MOT test number7958 3710 1263
Test date26 July 2010 Expiry date13 August 2011 Test ResultPass MOT test number1146 5790 0292
Test date27 July 2009 Expiry date13 August 2010 Test ResultPass Odometer reading1,445 miles MOT test number3525 0860 9251
Test date6 August 2008 Expiry date13 August 2009 Test ResultPass MOT test number6908 0961 8227
Test date8 August 2007 Expiry date13 August 2008 Test ResultPass MOT test number1803 7002 7239
Test date14 August 2006 Expiry date13 August 2007 Test ResultPass MOT test number1912 1672 6287
They're not making '73 Porsche's any more and it will go up in value if you get it for the right price and keep it long enough. I remember looking at these a few years ago and I could have picked one up for £12k.
The rust you can see WILL be the tip of the iceberg. Buy the best you can afford is always true with any classic.
https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/
MOT history of this vehicle
Test date21 July 2015 Expiry date13 August 2016 Test ResultPass Odometer reading2,651 miles MOT test number8555 4710 3583
Test date28 July 2014 Expiry date13 August 2015 Test ResultPass Odometer reading2,573 miles MOT test number2476 5990 4268
Test date30 July 2013 Expiry date13 August 2014 Test ResultPass Odometer reading2,479 miles MOT test number1752 9131 3251
Test date30 July 2012 Expiry date13 August 2013 Test ResultPass Odometer reading2,435 miles MOT test number9582 3251 2292
Test date26 July 2011 Expiry date13 August 2012 Test ResultPass Odometer reading2,272 miles MOT test number7958 3710 1263
Test date26 July 2010 Expiry date13 August 2011 Test ResultPass MOT test number1146 5790 0292
Test date27 July 2009 Expiry date13 August 2010 Test ResultPass Odometer reading1,445 miles MOT test number3525 0860 9251
Test date6 August 2008 Expiry date13 August 2009 Test ResultPass MOT test number6908 0961 8227
Test date8 August 2007 Expiry date13 August 2008 Test ResultPass MOT test number1803 7002 7239
Test date14 August 2006 Expiry date13 August 2007 Test ResultPass MOT test number1912 1672 6287
They're not making '73 Porsche's any more and it will go up in value if you get it for the right price and keep it long enough. I remember looking at these a few years ago and I could have picked one up for £12k.
The rust you can see WILL be the tip of the iceberg. Buy the best you can afford is always true with any classic.
I had a good look round the car at the viewing last Friday and although it was a might tatty and had corrosion in the usual spots, it looked 'honest'; no real attempt to hide anything, all the bits were there - fuse box cover etc, and no shunts from what I could see - panels looked original etc .... Obviously, you'd be spending a lot to get it immaculate, but if you felt like it you could drive it around for a few years yet, spend very little, and it wouldn't let you down in the meantime.
Good car
Good car
Very sensible comments. I really wanted to own it but the chap who bought it really wasn't for being outbid. I redently sold a LHD 69 911T and really enjoyed it and fancied a RHD one. out of curiosity what do you think would need to be spent to make it a 'nice' car?
mudy said:
I had a good look round the car at the viewing last Friday and although it was a might tatty and had corrosion in the usual spots, it looked 'honest'; no real attempt to hide anything, all the bits were there - fuse box cover etc, and no shunts from what I could see - panels looked original etc .... Obviously, you'd be spending a lot to get it immaculate, but if you felt like it you could drive it around for a few years yet, spend very little, and it wouldn't let you down in the meantime.
Good car
Good car
dickyf said:
for those interested the car made £40k plus fees so £45k.
I had a close look. Pretty rusty..I'm surprised (and pleased as I own a T) that it made £45k.The bargain was the Brown 2.4T, which was bought by a dealer for £45k inc fees and is now up at the dealer for £60k - which is still good value!
dickyf said:
Nice as in rust free? Lordy, I guess you could respray for around £8,000 basic, but it would need metal work done I'm sure, so probably double that, but if you want really nice paint and lots of prep - you'd be looking at £20,000 for the bodywork alone - hard to get anything other than a guess obviously.mudy said:
Nice as in rust free? Lordy, I guess you could respray for around £8,000 basic, but it would need metal work done I'm sure, so probably double that, but if you want really nice paint and lots of prep - you'd be looking at £20,000 for the bodywork alone - hard to get anything other than a guess obviously.
You guys really need to shop around. 'Basic' respray around 8K. Guy next to me only deals in classics and you have to wait 8 months, but he quoted me 4K for a windows out full prep and respray on a black 88 SSE 911. His work is top notch.IMO, to do it justice, we're not talking 'glass out' - it's got to be a 'bare shell' complete restoration, from a recognised specialist and that's where the costs mount up.
Engine, gearbox, suspension rebuild, retrim, electrics, all new or refurbished parts..... The overall quality of the finished product will only be as good as its weakest link.
Engine, gearbox, suspension rebuild, retrim, electrics, all new or refurbished parts..... The overall quality of the finished product will only be as good as its weakest link.
Wozy68 said:
mudy said:
Nice as in rust free? Lordy, I guess you could respray for around £8,000 basic, but it would need metal work done I'm sure, so probably double that, but if you want really nice paint and lots of prep - you'd be looking at £20,000 for the bodywork alone - hard to get anything other than a guess obviously.
You guys really need to shop around. 'Basic' respray around 8K. Guy next to me only deals in classics and you have to wait 8 months, but he quoted me 4K for a windows out full prep and respray on a black 88 SSE 911. His work is top notch.POORCARDEALER said:
Theres a lot of nonsense spoken on PH about repaint costs....£4/5k is plenty for a high quality paint, you are right.
it's the body work and labour not just a strip and paint on these old cars.A rebuild is what £80k hence the 911T is not always the best buy as others have said due the end resale as it costs the same to do a 911S.
PorscheGT4 said:
POORCARDEALER said:
Theres a lot of nonsense spoken on PH about repaint costs....£4/5k is plenty for a high quality paint, you are right.
it's the body work and labour not just a strip and paint on these old cars.A rebuild is what £80k hence the 911T is not always the best buy as others have said due the end resale as it costs the same to do a 911S.
If the great and good on here just shopped around, they would find that there are some seriously great painters/restorers out there that are little known by the masses but are excellent at what they do and charge half the amount.
No such thing as a basic repaint on a 40 plus year old car once you have stripped it though.
I know if you send a mint body alreally stripped and repaired for a paint you can get it done for £4K but that's the cheapest bit :-).
A windows out respray is a bodge job on these tyres of cars now.
Car needs to be 100% stripped , body repaired then painted
I know if you send a mint body alreally stripped and repaired for a paint you can get it done for £4K but that's the cheapest bit :-).
A windows out respray is a bodge job on these tyres of cars now.
Car needs to be 100% stripped , body repaired then painted
Edited by PorscheGT4 on Sunday 22 November 20:46
PorscheGT4 said:
it's the body work and labour not just a strip and paint on these old cars.
A rebuild is what £80k hence the 911T is not always the best buy as others have said due the end resale as it costs the same to do a 911S.
Curious to know how you got to £80k on a 911T, yes it could get that expensive if you start with a pile of junk but a resto on an average T?A rebuild is what £80k hence the 911T is not always the best buy as others have said due the end resale as it costs the same to do a 911S.
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