Meet the Mintbird!

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rubystone said:

Mintbird said:

should be for the oil ÖLKLAPPE!

Porsche only ever produced one model with an external oil filler. The 2.4 E Series of 1972. That's why I asked what it was for. I presume the one on yours was there for a RUF-related reason, given that the car is based on a 3.2?

On the topic of genuine RUF chassis numbers, I embarked on a search for a CTR 7 years ago and only found one car of the 5 for sale at that time had a genuine RUF chassis number. The rest were cars that had been (at best...) converted by RUF.

I should have bought the green car in Jersey, but the asking price was nigh on double the asking prices for the non-RUF chassis numbered cars and at the time I wasn't convinced the premium was deserved. The market has proven me wrong!

Finally, wasn't the BTR the model based on the 964, or is my elderly memory failing me?

Main bulk of Ruf 964s were BTRs but there were a few CTRs too i think. That green car is gorgeous. Didn't it belong to Alois Ruf himself? He certainly had a green one from memory.

[Mintbird]

I just got the papers from RUF confirming the conversion in July 1991, and completed in october the same year.

Havent driven it yet no, as for the VIN debacle, only 14 of the 29 cars have a proper VIN number - in my opinion its not a big deal as the entire conversion is a complete reshell anyway.

[TB993tt]

Mintbird said:

in my opinion its not a big deal as the entire conversion is a complete reshell anyway.

The Ruf VIN models stopped being produced because Porsche ran out of new shells IIRC so the retrofit ones are not really reshells but use the existing shell but I agree there is no discernible difference apart from the plaque.

[bryn_p]

I was bidding on this car too, I think it's one of the coolest 911's I've ever seen if not the coolest.

Price went a little higher than I wanted to pay but still a pretty good deal I reckon. Well bought, glad it's gone to a good home!

Cheers,
Bryn.

[graemel]

If my old girl does not sell I have been thinking for a while of creating a modern day equivalent of the CTR. A good few years back I remember a good mate phoning to tell me there was a yellow one for sale. I think it was £70 or £80K. When I telephoned about the car the price had gone up by £10K. Said it was a misprint in the add. That just pee'd me off so did not bother pursuing it. Another guy I knew was also interested in the CTR but my mate refused to give him the number as he did not consider his level of ability good enough to own one

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graemel said:

If my old girl does not sell I have been thinking for a while of creating a modern day equivalent of the CTR. A good few years back I remember a good mate phoning to tell me there was a yellow one for sale. I think it was £70 or £80K. When I telephoned about the car the price had gone up by £10K. Said it was a misprint in the add. That just pee'd me off so did not bother pursuing it. Another guy I knew was also interested in the CTR but my mate refused to give him the number as he did not consider his level of ability good enough to own one

I think your friend was spot on. A yelllowbird in inexperienced hands is like giving a child a gun. Main reason I've stayed away from big power turbo cars without tc. Makes the widowmaker `GT2 seem civilised by comparison.

[thegreenhell]

rubystone said:

Mintbird said:

should be for the oil ÖLKLAPPE!

Porsche only ever produced one model with an external oil filler. The 2.4 E Series of 1972. That's why I asked what it was for. I presume the one on yours was there for a RUF-related reason, given that the car is based on a 3.2?

964 C4 Leichtbau also had the external oil filler flap.

[selym]

Lovely.

[YankeePorker]

Fantastic car! I hope you have the obligatory white socks and slip on shoes needed for driving it fast!

[Innowaybored]

Wow. That is stunning. Well done. Have many enjoyable miles in her

[WelshChris]

What's the story with this one? - seems too cheap...

http://www.johnhollandsales.co.uk/used-cars/531699...

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WelshChris said:

What's the story with this one? - seems too cheap...

http://www.johnhollandsales.co.uk/used-cars/531699...

That was for sale at SCM for over 10 years for circa £75k. Its a BTR and not comparable to a CTR in any way.

CTR lightweight, narrow body, 3.4 based on 3.2 Carrera engine. Chassis reinforced and ultra stiff so that the gutters could be cut away from roof line. Not even Alois Ruf was particularly enthusiastic about the Ruf BTRs based on 930 flatnose. Overweight and did not handle. Funny it looks cheap now having been for sale at a relatively cheap price for quite some time but I thought it was expensive at £75k!!

[kman]

Stunning car Mintbird!

[avaF1]

what he said............stunning.............

[Mintbird]

Bump for help from the lovely PH pack!

I am trying to track down history on my car, and I found this old photo on google - its clearly a Mint CTR so it might very well be my car!

Now the plates read MN PV 911, but I cant tell whether it says I or F ( Italy or France) on the blue tag on the side of the plate.

Can someone help identifying the nationality of this plate?

[jeremyc]

Mintbird said:

Bump for help from the lovely PH pack!

I am trying to track down history on my car, and I found this old photo on google - its clearly a Mint CTR so it might very well be my car!

Now the plates read MN PV 911, but I cant tell whether it says I or F ( Italy or France) on the blue tag on the side of the plate.

Can someone help identifying the nationality of this plate?

I'd say it was a 'D': many Ruf cars seem to carry the local 'MN' reguistration plates.

[Davey S2]

Stunning car. I remember seeing Adam's Yellowbird at VMAX. Staggeringly quick for something that just looks like a normal 80's 911.

Have you bought white socks and loafers with tassles on them for the full Stefan Roser look?

[CarreraLightweightRacing]

Hi Axel, the registration is from southern Germany, from the Unterallgäu region (Mindelheim). I've sent you a message with a phone number to contact about previous owner

Edited by CarreraLightweightRacing on Tuesday 7th February 14:52

[jackpe]

Cant help with the history but just wanted to say that this is simply THE all time hero car for me. I visited RUF a couple of years ago and wrote an article for the World 964 Owners. I drove a an RCt from memory, it was Alois' own car putting out about 420bhp. Surprisingly refined and lag free. But the Yellowbird CTR is the one i've always hankered after, what a legendary car. Way ahead of its time, an absolutely awesome thing.

Keeping it going will be pricey, the CRT's were far more bespoke than the RCT which basically uses pretty much the same suspension, gearbox and main components.. but it's worth it. Dying to hear your impressions on this car once you get a drive..

[matty13]

Epic car
My dad owned a green ctr years ago I'm pretty sure his was a darker green .
I remember being around 10 as a passenger thinking my heart was going to explode such was the accleration when turbos kick in .
The old man still has a ruf btr sadly not in the greatest condition atm hope to change that this year. He also has a 964 wide body speedster that is immaculate.
Thanks for sharing sadly being , my dad included keep these thing locked away to the point you forget they exist