How useable is a 3.2 carrera (circa 84 year)?

How useable is a 3.2 carrera (circa 84 year)?

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g7jhp

6,969 posts

239 months

Saturday 20th April
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stinkyspanner said:
Koln-RS said:
Nice.
Like the retro anodised Fuchs, perhaps get the headlamp bezels repainted.
And, personally, prefer the non-rear spoiler shape.
But, looks like it could be an excellent basis for a running project.
Agreed about the bezels, they make my teeth itch every time I look at them. I'm undecided about the wheels, I think I'll get the whole centres done black but the current retro look is growing on me. The tea tray stays though, it's iconic!
The tea tray gives good downforce and is much better than without when pressing on.

Orangecurry

7,430 posts

207 months

Sunday 21st April
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...just to be pedantic, and this is PH after all, but the teatray provides no downforce.

It's a spoiler - it spoils the airflow over the teardrop shape and prevents lift. nerd

Mr Spanner - why else is that lovely white car not for the purists? Looks great by the way.

Discombobulate

4,850 posts

187 months

Sunday 21st April
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Orangecurry said:
...just to be pedantic, and this is PH after all, but the teatray provides no downforce.

It's a spoiler - it spoils the airflow over the teardrop shape and prevents lift. nerd

Mr Spanner - why else is that lovely white car not for the purists? Looks great by the way.
Indeed. And from memory the lift at the rear is significant: around 100kg and 100mph, almost all negated by the rear spoiler. Front one reduces lift too.

browngt3

1,411 posts

212 months

Sunday 21st April
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Discombobulate said:
Indeed. And from memory the lift at the rear is significant: around 100kg and 100mph, almost all negated by the rear spoiler. Front one reduces lift too.
That's a lot - is that true?

Glad I've got one on mine then. Always seemed a bit more stable in cross winds than my old 993 with the standard lift spoiler

g7jhp

6,969 posts

239 months

Sunday 21st April
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Orangecurry said:
...just to be pedantic, and this is PH after all, but the teatray provides no downforce.

It's a spoiler - it spoils the airflow over the teardrop shape and prevents lift. nerd

Mr Spanner - why else is that lovely white car not for the purists? Looks great by the way.
Being pedantic yes it prevents lift (not downforce), but the point is 3.2's are noticeably more planted with a tea tray than running a flat lid.

They also run better on 6&7 Fuchs than 7&9's.

Discombobulate

4,850 posts

187 months

Sunday 21st April
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browngt3 said:
That's a lot - is that true?

Glad I've got one on mine then. Always seemed a bit more stable in cross winds than my old 993 with the standard lift spoiler
Can't find a reference, but interesting thread here.
https://rennlist.com/forums/911-forum/159766-how-m...

stinkyspanner

721 posts

78 months

Sunday 21st April
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Orangecurry said:
...just to be pedantic, and this is PH after all, but the teatray provides no downforce.

It's a spoiler - it spoils the airflow over the teardrop shape and prevents lift. nerd

Mr Spanner - why else is that lovely white car not for the purists? Looks great by the way.
Thanks Mr Curry! I'm pleased with it, I must say it looks better in the photos.. That's not to say it's a heap, it certainly isn't but it's probably had a hard life, it's got the odd visible repair, highish mileage, no history whatsoever ('lost' apparently..), the interior has been totally retrimmed in dogpoo brown leather, been laid up for a significant amount of years.
On the plus side it's had a fair amount of replacement parts to get it MOT worthy, I can't see any rust worth worrying about, engine sounds good and goes well, gearbox hmm we'll see about that...
All in all a fairly honest, reasonable car that I can fiddle with and just use

Armitage.Shanks

2,281 posts

86 months

Sunday 28th April
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stinkyspanner said:
I bought one.. It's everything a serious enthusiast would run a mile from, but fits my requirements perfectly, and it was priced accordingly. The seller had a ramp, I spent an hour or so looking over it and couldn't find any significant rust. It's far from concourse, it's definitely not one for the purists but it's a good usable example that I won't need to worry about the odd stonechip, or adding miles to
From this distance it looks a beaut! Keep us all updated

BertBert

19,070 posts

212 months

Sunday 28th April
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g7jhp said:
Being pedantic yes it prevents lift (not downforce), but the point is 3.2's are noticeably more planted with a tea tray than running a flat lid.

They also run better on 6&7 Fuchs than 7&9's.
You presumably mean 6&8?

supersport

4,064 posts

228 months

Sunday 28th April
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I honestly think you are better off with a non perfect example, assuming it’s not rusty.

These cars car around 37 years old now, so why would you expect perfection.

If it’s not perfect you can just get on and enjoy it and not worry about anything. So few of these actually get used any more.

I a, toying with get my paint refreshed, but whilst it’s stone chipped I don’t worry. Who cares if it doesn’t look 100%. It won’t be long before it gets more.

As long as you have a good base to start from.

Enjoy.

POORCARDEALER

8,525 posts

242 months

Monday 29th April
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I’ve got a 3.2 coupe and an e type s2 fhc - I’d use the 3.2 in weather which I wouldn’t use the e type. E type more sense of occasion.

g7jhp

6,969 posts

239 months

Monday 29th April
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BertBert said:
g7jhp said:
Being pedantic yes it prevents lift (not downforce), but the point is 3.2's are noticeably more planted with a tea tray than running a flat lid.

They also run better on 6&7 Fuchs than 7&9's.
You presumably mean 6&8?
No 6&7 x 16 Fuchs were on earlier 3.2 Carrera's and I believe they swapped from 7 to 8's on the back circa 1988.

Geneve

3,867 posts

220 months

Monday 29th April
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It was 6s&7s x16 on most 3.2s until 1989 when the rears became 8s - to improve handling.
Not sure how true this is, but I was told that the use of the same size tyre stiffened the sidewalls, which made the back end more responsive.

Some people have fitted 7s & 9s with bigger tyres, but this combo only benefits aesthetics - it saps power.
A 911 should never be ‘over-tyred’.

Apparently, fitting 7s&8s x15 can be quite effective, especially for track use, lowering the car (if lower profile tyres are fitted), changing the gearing and reducing the unsprung weight.

Nick Forest

9 posts

84 months

Monday 29th April
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I bought a 3.2 today…

Edited by Nick Forest on Monday 29th April 21:59

BertBert

19,070 posts

212 months

Monday 29th April
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g7jhp said:
No 6&7 x 16 Fuchs were on earlier 3.2 Carrera's and I believe they swapped from 7 to 8's on the back circa 1988.
Well every day is a school day. My 2.7RS looky-likey had 6s and 8s a while ago when I owned it

g7jhp

6,969 posts

239 months

Tuesday
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BertBert said:
g7jhp said:
No 6&7 x 16 Fuchs were on earlier 3.2 Carrera's and I believe they swapped from 7 to 8's on the back circa 1988.
Well every day is a school day. My 2.7RS looky-likey had 6s and 8s a while ago when I owned it
My second 3.2 Carrera (87) G50 had 6&7's but I did find a pair of 7&9's. Handing was better with the 6&7's.



Think it was exported to Australia.


stichill99

1,046 posts

182 months

Tuesday
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Nick Forest said:
I bought a 3.2 today…

Edited by Nick Forest on Monday 29th April 21:59
Looks great!

Koln-RS

3,869 posts

213 months

Tuesday
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Nick Forest said:
I bought a 3.2 today…

Edited by Nick Forest on Monday 29th April 21:59
What colour is that ?
Is it the original colour (obviously the wheels and sticker aren’t) ?