Driving the 430
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Thanks red_duke - I should've read more carefully, that must be it. Will check this afternoon. Otherwise, the entire experience is proving glorious (well maybe apart from aircon that seems to delight in blowing slightly warm air around a cabin already baking in 35 degree heat...But some experimentation with settings will probably help). It's just fabulous all round though. Always so disappointing getting out of the car - awaiting the next fix already! Drove behind a lovely red 458 earlier and just felt on top of the world (my 430 seems well able to hold its own at least in the aural symphony stakes...)
It's not mentioned explicitly but it's one of several items that can be set along with dashboard brightness, clock time, etc. You can set and disable the speed limit alarm with the mode and set buttons. It's the first thing I disabled as it drove me nuts when I first got the car.
If you can set a digital watch it's the same principle. If not, get your kids to do it!
If you can set a digital watch it's the same principle. If not, get your kids to do it!
I do not want to spoil our friends new 430 experience here, he has bought a F1 gearbox and is asking how best to drive it. Well from what I can see and have read these gearboxes chew up clutches.Well it cannot be right that a car thats driven correctly will let you do maybe 10k before its clutch gives out, I am involved with commercial vehicles with automatic gearboxes that change the same way as Ferrari I.E mechanical shifting as opposed to the older type fluid flywheel type auto boxes, and these regularly achieve 800000 yes thats Eight hundred thousand kilometres and still will only be 50% worn.And they are of gross weights of 44tons with well in excess of 400bhp and huge amounts of pounds feet at the flywheel. How can a manufacturer build and sell a product like this and get away with it! I should point out that I do own a 360 manual, and so feel I can comment on Ferrari with some amount of knowledge, and despite all that these cars are I absolutely love them F1 and manual, and if the F1 was a properly designed and built piece of kit I would have no hesitation owning one, but I prefer manual even in the 430. Mike
Mike Brown said:
I do not want to spoil our friends new 430 experience here, he has bought a F1 gearbox and is asking how best to drive it. Well from what I can see and have read these gearboxes chew up clutches.Well it cannot be right that a car thats driven correctly will let you do maybe 10k before its clutch gives out, I am involved with commercial vehicles with automatic gearboxes that change the same way as Ferrari I.E mechanical shifting as opposed to the older type fluid flywheel type auto boxes, and these regularly achieve 800000 yes thats Eight hundred thousand kilometres and still will only be 50% worn.And they are of gross weights of 44tons with well in excess of 400bhp and huge amounts of pounds feet at the flywheel. How can a manufacturer build and sell a product like this and get away with it! I should point out that I do own a 360 manual, and so feel I can comment on Ferrari with some amount of knowledge, and despite all that these cars are I absolutely love them F1 and manual, and if the F1 was a properly designed and built piece of kit I would have no hesitation owning one, but I prefer manual even in the 430. Mike
My 430 clutch is approx 50% worn at 30000 miles, so still plenty of life left in it. Comparison to your commercial vehicle isn't really relevant until you can compare, the 430 clutch has 5mm of friction material, almost 500bhp and is designed to be as lightweight as possible, not sure those same considerations are made for commercial vehicles.John.
Wow John thats superb, from all the other threads it would seem that F1's chew them up very quickly, you either know exactly how to drive it or have a superbly set up clutch or both, my manual has done 29k with I believe the same clutch, the last owner however owned it for the last 8 years though, I have owned it for just 5 months and it still feels good and bites where i believe it should, Mike
Before I bought my f1 430 I read many posts warning about clutch wear and it was certainly on my mind when buying. The reality has been very different and I have been pleasantly surprised. At the last service the clutch was 6,500 miles old and was 13% worn.
It is obviously very dependent upon how the car is driven and particularly whether it spends a lot of time in city centres. Those times when I am in traffic I am very conscious about leaving a decent space to allow the clutch to fully engage.
It is obviously very dependent upon how the car is driven and particularly whether it spends a lot of time in city centres. Those times when I am in traffic I am very conscious about leaving a decent space to allow the clutch to fully engage.
Mike Brown said:
Wow John thats superb, from all the other threads it would seem that F1's chew them up very quickly, you either know exactly how to drive it or have a superbly set up clutch or both, my manual has done 29k with I believe the same clutch, the last owner however owned it for the last 8 years though, I have owned it for just 5 months and it still feels good and bites where i believe it should, Mike
My little list earlier in the post seems to work well for me, but i don't tend to do a lot of city or stop/start driving and i'm sure that helps 
Congrats on your 5 month anniversary
i'm about to hit my 4 year anniversary with mine and i still get as excited now everytime i drive it as i did the first time, absolutely love it, i wish you many happy miles John.
Hi Guys,
I have very recently purchased an 07 F430 coupe F1 with 8,000 miles on it and have now driven it a few times.
I noticed when I drove it yesterday the car had restricted power delivery and was doing quite high revs for a low speed. the power was so restricted that when i pulled off from stand still the car would 'kangaroo' a bit. The display them came up with the message 'slow down'. I then pulled over and turned car off and then on again and noticed that the car went into 'auto' mode. When i pressed the 'auto' button and the car went into manual it felt better. I then noticed that everytime i started the engine the car would default to 'auto' and I had to press the 'auto' button to get the car back into manual mode. Can anybody shed any light on this? Should I be worried?
Thanks
I have very recently purchased an 07 F430 coupe F1 with 8,000 miles on it and have now driven it a few times.
I noticed when I drove it yesterday the car had restricted power delivery and was doing quite high revs for a low speed. the power was so restricted that when i pulled off from stand still the car would 'kangaroo' a bit. The display them came up with the message 'slow down'. I then pulled over and turned car off and then on again and noticed that the car went into 'auto' mode. When i pressed the 'auto' button and the car went into manual it felt better. I then noticed that everytime i started the engine the car would default to 'auto' and I had to press the 'auto' button to get the car back into manual mode. Can anybody shed any light on this? Should I be worried?
Thanks
Its just possible the initial issue came from you starting the engine before 'check ok' came on which is why when you turned it on and off it went away - the 'auto' mode query may be different - might it be worth reading to see if there are any hints in the owners manual ?
New owners often get the kangarooing because they are not positive enough on the throttle from zero to engage the clutch
New owners often get the kangarooing because they are not positive enough on the throttle from zero to engage the clutch
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