430 Manifolds - If or when?
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My search now begins in earnest.
I have found a lovely very low miles car(5000)its an late 2007 supplied and serviced by a very well known main dealer.
Not had manifolds, they say it doesn't need them. Most other cars I have seen of that age (albeit with higher miles) have had them replaced in the last year or so.
My worry is that it isnt a warranty item and I'm going to faced with a 4 or 5 grand bill at the next service when they tell me they need replacing.
Do they all fail? or am I worrying unduly?
Cheers
GG
I have found a lovely very low miles car(5000)its an late 2007 supplied and serviced by a very well known main dealer.
Not had manifolds, they say it doesn't need them. Most other cars I have seen of that age (albeit with higher miles) have had them replaced in the last year or so.
My worry is that it isnt a warranty item and I'm going to faced with a 4 or 5 grand bill at the next service when they tell me they need replacing.
Do they all fail? or am I worrying unduly?
Cheers
GG
GG33 said:
My search now begins in earnest.
I have found a lovely very low miles car(5000)its an late 2007 supplied and serviced by a very well known main dealer.
Not had manifolds, they say it doesn't need them. Most other cars I have seen of that age (albeit with higher miles) have had them replaced in the last year or so.
My worry is that it isnt a warranty item and I'm going to faced with a 4 or 5 grand bill at the next service when they tell me they need replacing.
Do they all fail? or am I worrying unduly?
Cheers
GG
Mine's a 2007 car with nearly three times the mileage of the one you have found. It's still on its original manifolds - just been in for a service and checked and found to be ok. I have found a lovely very low miles car(5000)its an late 2007 supplied and serviced by a very well known main dealer.
Not had manifolds, they say it doesn't need them. Most other cars I have seen of that age (albeit with higher miles) have had them replaced in the last year or so.
My worry is that it isnt a warranty item and I'm going to faced with a 4 or 5 grand bill at the next service when they tell me they need replacing.
Do they all fail? or am I worrying unduly?
Cheers
GG
It may already have the Mk2 manifolds fitted - they were introduced at AN 74556 (VIN 157672).
Even though mine had the Mk2 manifolds fitted when I bought it I decided to fit a pair of Agency Power manifolds. They (and others like the Capristo) eliminate the pre-cat which prvides more power/noise and removes the risk of it being sucked back into the engine.
I wrote up the job of fitting them here: Linky
Even though mine had the Mk2 manifolds fitted when I bought it I decided to fit a pair of Agency Power manifolds. They (and others like the Capristo) eliminate the pre-cat which prvides more power/noise and removes the risk of it being sucked back into the engine.
I wrote up the job of fitting them here: Linky
purpleperil said:
Mine's a 2007 car with nearly three times the mileage of the one you have found. It's still on its original manifolds - just been in for a service and checked and found to be ok.
How do they check the precat inside the manifold at a service, assume the only check is external for leakage? voicey said:
It may already have the Mk2 manifolds fitted - they were introduced at AN 74556 (VIN 157672).
Even though mine had the Mk2 manifolds fitted when I bought it I decided to fit a pair of Agency Power manifolds. They (and others like the Capristo) eliminate the pre-cat which prvides more power/noise and removes the risk of it being sucked back into the engine.
I wrote up the job of fitting them here: Linky
Don't think it has later manifolds fitted as no documentation and is pre VIN 157672. Will be 'upgrading' as per your blog if and when they show first sign of leakage.Even though mine had the Mk2 manifolds fitted when I bought it I decided to fit a pair of Agency Power manifolds. They (and others like the Capristo) eliminate the pre-cat which prvides more power/noise and removes the risk of it being sucked back into the engine.
I wrote up the job of fitting them here: Linky
Russell996 said:
purpleperil said:
Mine's a 2007 car with nearly three times the mileage of the one you have found. It's still on its original manifolds - just been in for a service and checked and found to be ok.
How do they check the precat inside the manifold at a service, assume the only check is external for leakage? purpleperil said:
Don't think it has later manifolds fitted as no documentation and is pre VIN 157672. Will be 'upgrading' as per your blog if and when they show first sign of leakage.
Can you send me some pictures of your manifolds please? I've been trying to get hold of a photo of a Mk1 header for ages.
I think the general feeling is that the MK1 manifolds will fail eventually, it took 18K miles for mine to fail. Capristo exhaust brackets help the issue by allowing the thermal expansion that the rigid brackets don't allow.
My manifolds were changed by Ferrari as goodwill and they are not covered by the approved used warranty, i'd be pushing for them to be changed as part of the deal if they are definitely MK1 manifolds.
John.
My manifolds were changed by Ferrari as goodwill and they are not covered by the approved used warranty, i'd be pushing for them to be changed as part of the deal if they are definitely MK1 manifolds.
John.
voicey said:
It may already have the Mk2 manifolds fitted - they were introduced at AN 74556 (VIN 157672).
Even though mine had the Mk2 manifolds fitted when I bought it I decided to fit a pair of Agency Power manifolds. They (and others like the Capristo) eliminate the pre-cat which prvides more power/noise and removes the risk of it being sucked back into the engine.
I wrote up the job of fitting them here: Linky
I am going to replace my manifolds with Agency Power ones too, bit of a preventative measure and also for a bit more noise/power by losing the pre cat.Even though mine had the Mk2 manifolds fitted when I bought it I decided to fit a pair of Agency Power manifolds. They (and others like the Capristo) eliminate the pre-cat which prvides more power/noise and removes the risk of it being sucked back into the engine.
I wrote up the job of fitting them here: Linky
I was in the Supercar Centre in Sheffield earlier this week (Millbrooke Cars new name/lcoation)they had a 430 in that had a failed manifold and had ingested some of the failed bits of manifold into the engine. They were about to start splitting the motor, initial diagnosis was one of the pistons will need replacing etc etc etc
Edited by chillo on Friday 25th April 12:37
GG33 said:
My search now begins in earnest.
I have found a lovely very low miles car(5000)its an late 2007 supplied and serviced by a very well known main dealer.
Not had manifolds, they say it doesn't need them. Most other cars I have seen of that age (albeit with higher miles) have had them replaced in the last year or so.
My worry is that it isnt a warranty item and I'm going to faced with a 4 or 5 grand bill at the next service when they tell me they need replacing.
Do they all fail? or am I worrying unduly?
Cheers
GG
I bought a 2008 model with 5000 miles last August which had MK1 manifolds. First time I put it in for a service I'm told they are starting to blow so £3k later.....I was assured there are no issues with the second generation manifolds. I certainly hope that's true. I have found a lovely very low miles car(5000)its an late 2007 supplied and serviced by a very well known main dealer.
Not had manifolds, they say it doesn't need them. Most other cars I have seen of that age (albeit with higher miles) have had them replaced in the last year or so.
My worry is that it isnt a warranty item and I'm going to faced with a 4 or 5 grand bill at the next service when they tell me they need replacing.
Do they all fail? or am I worrying unduly?
Cheers
GG
JMP86 said:
I've heard of an 08 car that's just had manifolds replaced at my indy, so although an improvement, it seems not 100% fixed
Certainly won't be going mk2 on mine if/when they go as I believe they are still flawed and when for similar money you can have Capristo or Agency Power with better noise and more power 
ewolg said:
Had a good chat with Longlife in Bridport. They do a pair of stainless manifolds for £2K fitted. Any experience of them?
I haven't but if you decide to pull the trigger on them I'd be grateful of a report on how they fit and a few pics. Do they come with heat shields or ceramic coating for that money?Gassing Station | Ferrari V8 | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff