Challenge Stradale - Tyre choice

Challenge Stradale - Tyre choice

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Car Mad Dave

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261 posts

176 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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I know this topic has been touched on before but wanted to get the latest view from CS owners.

The current set of Pirelli Corsa's on my CS will need replacing soon and I am favouring switching to Michlen PSS. Reason is that my use in future will be road trips and the occassional track days. Corsa's are OE and sticky on track but go off/wear quickly. MSS seem more multi purpose and a far superior/durable road tyre. This is the theory and what I have read, but what is the actual experience of those that have changed. Also, if you are running PSS, do you run them at the same pressure as recommended for Corsa's?

Thanks, CMD

On`it

83 posts

250 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Hi, there is some very good information on the www.ferrarichat.com forum. Most will go for the safe option as all dealers will not risk advising on anything else and that will be standard factory spec. I am going for the MPSS which has been fitted as standard to the new specials like the 599GTO etc which tells you something and looking at trying 235 on the front not the 225 as there is talk about helping with the understeer. There will be plenty of other comments and expect most will be safe and conservative but will be interesting to see. This is just what I am look at trying after research to date. I would be especially interested in Toe and camber set up as this is a little less talked about. I am considering the following.
2mm per side rear toe (as per 430) 0.25 per side front Toe, 2.5 rear camber, 1.8 front camber. Comments made- gives extra grip, better turn in and ties the rear down as per the 430- which is important when you sharpen up the front. Avoids the built in understeer from the factory without turning the car into oversteer monster. This is a quote from an earlier pistonheads posting which I am guessing is with the standard tyre fitting and I wonder how this would affect going for the 235 fronts.
Any info and thoughts would be most interesting.

AmoCS

1,150 posts

219 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Choices include -

Bridgestone POTENZA RE‐11

Super Sport Cup II
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Michelin-Pilo...

MPSS

Corsa

Bunk

89 posts

169 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Dave

Get the MPSS. These are the best all round tyre currently available for the CS. I put them on mine after taking advice on FerrariChat and ClubScuderia and they are fantastic and to be honest, while they don't have the ultimate stickiness of the Corsa's on track they are pretty damn good with enough adjustability for drifting etc if thats your thing. When the rear of the car breaks away (either deliberately or unprovoked because you misjudged something) it's really really easy to gather it, there's no sudden breakaway or lurching as some tyres do when they abruptly regain traction.

Couple that with it being a really good road tyre too and I can't see why you'd choose anything else, unless you are someone who does 10 trackdays a year and really chases lap times.


Car Mad Dave

Original Poster:

261 posts

176 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Bunk, for the MPSS did you stay with the OE size (225 and 285/35) or move up to 235 and 295/35 as some have suggested?

On`it

83 posts

250 months

Saturday 26th July 2014
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front 235 rears 285 is what has been recommended and I am going for what's its worth. FYI unless anyone has better info or suggestions.

Bunk

89 posts

169 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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Apologies mate only seeing this now. I can't recall exactly but will check this evening when I'm home and let you know.

Bunk

89 posts

169 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Sorry for the delay. I'm running 235 & 295 and it's perfect.

AmoCS

1,150 posts

219 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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Are 295's not outside the safe limit for a 10" wheel?

Bunk

89 posts

169 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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I don't think so, I've certainly run these with no problem including a couple of track days. Also, the extra bit of width has served quite well as a rim protector.

Not all tyres of supposedly the same form factor are equal by the way in terms of how they sit on the rim.

When I got my 997.1 GT3RS the former owner had corsa on it which were rear 335's or 345's (I can't remember exactly....stock was 325's). The car was brilliantly set up with different ARB's and bits from cup cars etc and handled beautifully.

When I went to change, it was when Pirelli had just introduced the Trofeo and there were no Corsa's available. Thinking they would be the same, I ordered the exact same size as the Corsa's but the way the Trofeo's sat on the rim, it was massively overtyred, and in compressions it would rub on the wheel arch, where I never had any issue with Corsa's of the same form factor.

So you really need to try them out.

AmoCS

1,150 posts

219 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Bunk said:
I don't think so, I've certainly run these with no problem including a couple of track days. Also, the extra bit of width has served quite well as a rim protector.

Not all tyres of supposedly the same form factor are equal by the way in terms of how they sit on the rim.

When I got my 997.1 GT3RS the former owner had corsa on it which were rear 335's or 345's (I can't remember exactly....stock was 325's). The car was brilliantly set up with different ARB's and bits from cup cars etc and handled beautifully.

When I went to change, it was when Pirelli had just introduced the Trofeo and there were no Corsa's available. Thinking they would be the same, I ordered the exact same size as the Corsa's but the way the Trofeo's sat on the rim, it was massively overtyred, and in compressions it would rub on the wheel arch, where I never had any issue with Corsa's of the same form factor.

So you really need to try them out.
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On`it

83 posts

250 months

Tuesday 5th August 2014
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I have been informed its worth getting the front wheel arch crimped/rolled to save the wider 235 tyres catching which can cause a paint bubble etc with time.

AmoCS

1,150 posts

219 months

Tuesday 5th August 2014
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[quote=On`it]I have been informed its worth getting the front wheel arch crimped/rolled to save the wider 235 tyres catching which can cause a paint bubble etc with time.
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Not heard that before, plenty of guys in US have run 235 without problems.
How about you Bunk?

bromers2

1,867 posts

250 months

Tuesday 5th August 2014
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[quote=On`it]I have been informed its worth getting the front wheel arch crimped/rolled to save the wider 235 tyres catching which can cause a paint bubble etc with time.
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Yes agree - but also depends on how low you suspension you are running.

Bunk

89 posts

169 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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I havent had any problems at all but I guess my car is at stock ride height which I think is perfect looks wise and driveability wise too (lot of speed humps around my way).