Scuderia.....testing the market

Scuderia.....testing the market

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GRBF430F1

4,843 posts

169 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Jules360 said:
That's a Strad
Yeah a 360 with stripes lol nono

GRBF430F1

4,843 posts

169 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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stain said:
Swirly paint is one thing but a damaged diffuser is another.
Did you not mention it to them. Surely they would of had to fix or replace it as part of the deal

stain

1,051 posts

209 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Wasn't able to due to a very disappointing experience overall. However, this isn't Daley's Autos. Cars like this should be free from damage and buffed up for sale before the buyers see them. Using damage as bargaining tools should not be possible. The car I ended up buying had no such issues. That the dealer experience was in another universe compared to Meridien, made it even better.

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

142 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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I agree cars at this level should be fully prep'd and the dealer experience second to none...

col68

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247 posts

205 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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I've viewed a few cars at meridien.....all of them needed stuff.......which they were reluctant to rectify,........no clutch or brake wear readings ever given, they buy cars without even checking the basics.......scud I went down to see a couple of years ago, I specifically asked if it had been tracked, and , was told no.......their! service receipts for the car detailed numerous track day prep for spa and Nurburgring.......FFS!

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

142 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Can’t see the fixation on 'never been tracked' cars (unless for investment and to be parked up) - especially around track cars?? You can often find yourself in a more costly situation if you but in to a garage queen that sits about being polished most of the year against a car that checks out, in great condition yet still has had to odd track excursion... Clearly you don’t want to be buying in to an ex track 'hack' / race car but something used / fastidiously maintained and in great condition wins for me...

PHOENIXUK

2,198 posts

200 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Slickhillsy said:
Can’t see the fixation on 'never been tracked' cars (unless for investment and to be parked up) - especially around track cars?? You can often find yourself in a more costly situation if you but in to a garage queen that sits about being polished most of the year against a car that checks out, in great condition yet still has had to odd track excursion... Clearly you don’t want to be buying in to an ex track 'hack' / race car but something used / fastidiously maintained and in great condition wins for me...
Trackdays would not bother me but, and I may be wrong here, I think the fact the question was asked and they were given the incorect answer, either by way of an 'untruth' or lack of knowledge of the history of the car is the issue, any 'salesperson' whether selling a £2k Focus of £200K Ferrari should have a reasonable knowledge of the product to answer simple questions correctly.IMHO

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

142 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Very true...

AmoCS

1,143 posts

218 months

Russell996

494 posts

128 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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AmoCS said:
18 months Ferrari warranty and new CCM's!

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

142 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Fire sale... Roughly the price of a Euro car pre import - at least the hassle has been covered. Nice looking car...

Rocco1

3,081 posts

182 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Slickhillsy said:
Fire sale... Roughly the price of a Euro car pre import - at least the hassle has been covered. Nice looking car...
Car is in Italy and will require all the necessary work to be carried out for it to be road legal here in the UK

GRBF430F1

4,843 posts

169 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Reckon its a good buy as a track car. All these cheap LHD's do worry me a bit.

Is the Scuderia bubble about to burst or are we going to see another rise in spring. They did about £30k last year but just can't see that being repeated from this base price in 2015. Reckon we will see £10-15k during the summer season with £200k being the ceiling for a while to come

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

142 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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GRBF430F1 said:
Reckon its a good buy as a track car. All these cheap LHD's do worry me a bit.

Is the Scuderia bubble about to burst or are we going to see another rise in spring. They did about £30k last year but just can't see that being repeated from this base price in 2015. Reckon we will see £10-15k during the summer season with £200k being the ceiling for a while to come
You’re a really Jekyll and Hyde type. One hand you’re Mr 'Loads of Money - splash the dosh I don’t care, everything I buy turns to gold look at me...'

Then - 'Oooooooooooo you dont wanna do that the bubble's gonna burst.'

I bet all your cars sit chatting to each other up there in the Brookside garage just crying out for a proper real mans drive - sad in the knowledge that’s just never going to happen.

The LHD market (with the FX rate in our favour) at the moment is a real opportunity for those on a 'budget'. For me to get in to a Scud is a dream and is a 'pant stirring moment' every time I open the garage door - my first real 'keeper car'... To buy and import has been a pain in the b*** but I know I bought my Scuderia at a cracking price and about half the price you paid for yours, slight inconvenience being the only concession - you're the only Scud / CS owner on here moaning (LHD or RHD) - we never hear you talking about the DRIVE.

Sure people are concerned if the bottom drops out the market but I would say it's just a cursory glance to it rather than sleepless nights otherwise most high end car owners would be on Prozac.

Please... Go away, do some miles, then come back and tell us what you think. Much more interesting conversation...

giggle

1,952 posts

244 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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GRBF430F1 said:
All these cheap LHD's do worry me a bit.

Is the Scuderia bubble about to burst or are we going to see another rise in spring.
Well its not just the Scuderia bubble that's about to blow.

2015 will be a time for CORRECTION and some are going to get hurt more than others.

There are lots and lots of cars sat at high prices that are unsold for many months now which indicates
the "ceiling" has been passed and now prices will fall.




sone

4,585 posts

237 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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giggle said:
GRBF430F1 said:
All these cheap LHD's do worry me a bit.

Is the Scuderia bubble about to burst or are we going to see another rise in spring.
Well its not just the Scuderia bubble that's about to blow.

2015 will be a time for CORRECTION and some are going to get hurt more than others.

There are lots and lots of cars sat at high prices that are unsold for many months now which indicates
the "ceiling" has been passed and now prices will fall.
I'm not sure the big fall is coming just yet but I think you're right in the long run. I think while the economy seems to be thriving and house prices remain stable, interest rates low so will car prices.
How the dealers can sit on the stock they do though is beyond me!



Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

142 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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sone said:
giggle said:
GRBF430F1 said:
All these cheap LHD's do worry me a bit.

Is the Scuderia bubble about to burst or are we going to see another rise in spring.
Well its not just the Scuderia bubble that's about to blow.

2015 will be a time for CORRECTION and some are going to get hurt more than others.

There are lots and lots of cars sat at high prices that are unsold for many months now which indicates
the "ceiling" has been passed and now prices will fall.
I'm not sure the big fall is coming just yet but I think you're right in the long run. I think while the economy seems to be thriving and house prices remain stable, interest rates low so will car prices.
How the dealers can sit on the stock they do though is beyond me!


This is one (of many) good reasons... In 2015 China wakes up to a whole new Classic Car market.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/russellflannery/2014/0...

Previously cars over 12 years old, up to 100 years old were not permitted import. All this is about to change..

Another is leverage. The previous bubble was highly leveraged where as a number of strong factors support today’s market (Do what you like type pensions / portfolio (risk) diversification / increased global interest – not least people just want to own these things to drive).

Not saying there won’t be a crash, just that there are still a number of strong indicators that it's here to stay for a while... Which would please GRBF430F1 mightily...

I guess when Elvis does leave the building just be sure you're left holding the keys to the right car - the car you want to own...

kbooker

728 posts

138 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Beat me to it Mark, our good friend Remy was explaining this to me and how a lot of cars from Europe are now disappearing to China, I still think we'll see a softening of prices next year but not an implosion....yet

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

142 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Hey Kev. Did you complete on that Scud mate?

911Thrasher

2,573 posts

198 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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China is LHD (Hong Kong is RHD however)