Who owns a Scuderia on P'heads?
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I think someone posted before that there were about 180 in total uk rhd but quite a few have left now
Found it http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=128...
Several of them will also show up as regular 430 on how-many-left
Found it http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=128...
Several of them will also show up as regular 430 on how-many-left
Edited by johnnyreggae on Monday 1st September 18:13
mrdemon said:
to expensive now
ok at £125k whch they were for about the last 4 years
Now at £200k you would have to be mad not to by a Ferrari 458 Speciale
I must be barking mad then as I was looking at buying a new spider then talked myself up to a new Speciale until the Ferrari dealer told me the new car would lose a fortune and my money was far better off in a Scuderia ?? As they didn't have a Scud and could easily have taken a deposit for the Speciale off me I guess they were expressing their true thoughts honestly ok at £125k whch they were for about the last 4 years
Now at £200k you would have to be mad not to by a Ferrari 458 Speciale
Speciale is a normal production car and no one knows how many they are likely to buy but if the Scuderia stays static and the new car depreciates over 2/3 years the gap will be significantly less for sure.
First time I've bought a car more with my head than my heart but time will tell. If it goes up or even stays static that's a bonus on my typically £20k per annum depreciation and whats likely to happen to speciale over the first 2 years when history repeats itself
GRBF430F1 said:
First time I've bought a car more with my head than my heart but time will tell. If it goes up or even stays static that's a bonus on my typically £20k per annum depreciation and whats likely to happen to speciale over the first 2 years when history repeats itself
I tried very hard to fall for the 430 scud when they were a relatively tempting buy. First I used my head, nearly. Then my heart, close. Finally I used my eyes - no chance!!!! She is a slitty eyed, under wheeled minger monger that looks like its wearing trousers too short...very much IMO I know
Q1 2013 90 in total ( licensed and SORN )
Q1 2014 77 in total ( 65 licensed 12 SORN ) Only 5 RHD currently available for sale
Not sure how many LHD have been registered in the UK now but would imagine this is the reason the number has crept up from Q4 2013 with people bringing in cheaper LHD imports more recently (although even these are not cheap now and the gap has definitely closed )
When they are gone they will be gone
Edited by GRBF430F1 on Monday 1st September 22:49
Edited by GRBF430F1 on Monday 1st September 22:53
mrdemon said:
to expensive now
ok at £125k whch they were for about the last 4 years
Now at £200k you would have to be mad not to by a Ferrari 458 Speciale
Who knows, the same could have been said of the CS vs Scud. The Scud is a better drive than both. The Speciale just feels too refined and too competent. Great if you like that sort of stuff, but not as involving as either a CS or a Scud. ok at £125k whch they were for about the last 4 years
Now at £200k you would have to be mad not to by a Ferrari 458 Speciale
GRBF430F1 said:
Q1 2013 90 in total ( licensed and SORN )
Q1 2014 77 in total ( 65 licensed 12 SORN ) Only 5 RHD currently available for sale
When they are gone they will be gone
Edited by GRBF430F1 on Monday 1st September 22:49
As for Scuds being a better place for money than a Speciale, I doubt it - at least over a three year horizon. A Scud is around £150k now. A brand new Speciale is not much over £200k. About £230k with the important options. Speciale is much nicer than Scud - based on a more well received standard car, with more power, better driving characteristics, much better looks etc. it will always be the most highly developed n/a track special V8 from Ferrari and should carry a premium. It will no doubt have an early dip but this period should be shorter than for the Scud and CS due to appreciation of those two in the last two years.
All opinion of course.
Alpinestars said:
Who knows, the same could have been said of the CS vs Scud. The Scud is a better drive than both. The Speciale just feels too refined and too competent. Great if you like that sort of stuff, but not as involving as either a CS or a Scud.
Have you driven them all? I've driven CS extensively and also a Speciale. Very difficult to conclude that Speciale is less involving. A little quieter maybe, but drives at least as well and most would conclude better.LukeyLikey said:
Have you driven them all? I've driven CS extensively and also a Speciale. Very difficult to conclude that Speciale is less involving. A little quieter maybe, but drives at least as well and most would conclude better.
Yes driven them all. The Speciale is a better car if better means faster (only marginally vs the Scud), more refined, quicker gearbox etc. But that doesn't always make the best car IMO. Otherwise a GTR would be very difficult to beat. The Scud and CS feel more involving at normal road speeds. I felt you had to really push the Speciale for it to feel as special (no pun intended).
But as always, involvement is subjective.
GRBF430F1 said:
I must be barking mad then as I was looking at buying a new spider then talked myself up to a new Speciale until the Ferrari dealer told me the new car would lose a fortune and my money was far better off in a Scuderia ?? As they didn't have a Scud and could easily have taken a deposit for the Speciale off me I guess they were expressing their true thoughts honestly
Speciale is a normal production car and no one knows how many they are likely to buy but if the Scuderia stays static and the new car depreciates over 2/3 years the gap will be significantly less for sure.
First time I've bought a car more with my head than my heart but time will tell. If it goes up or even stays static that's a bonus on my typically £20k per annum depreciation and whats likely to happen to speciale over the first 2 years when history repeats itself
Here we go again.. Speciale is a normal production car and no one knows how many they are likely to buy but if the Scuderia stays static and the new car depreciates over 2/3 years the gap will be significantly less for sure.
First time I've bought a car more with my head than my heart but time will tell. If it goes up or even stays static that's a bonus on my typically £20k per annum depreciation and whats likely to happen to speciale over the first 2 years when history repeats itself
Alpinestars said:
Yes driven them all. The Speciale is a better car if better means faster (only marginally vs the Scud), more refined, quicker gearbox etc. But that doesn't always make the best car IMO. Otherwise a GTR would be very difficult to beat.
The Scud and CS feel more involving at normal road speeds. I felt you had to really push the Speciale for it to feel as special (no pun intended).
But as always, involvement is subjective.
Haven driven all 3 I agree with you about the Scuderia being the "nicest" to drive overall. CS is epic in its old school way as is the Speciale with its carlos fandango technology but overall the halfway house between the rawness and sophistication is the Scuderia - its a "Concorde" moment for the motoring industry and very underrated IMHO of courseThe Scud and CS feel more involving at normal road speeds. I felt you had to really push the Speciale for it to feel as special (no pun intended).
But as always, involvement is subjective.
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