16M

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FalconWood

1,359 posts

197 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Rocco1 said:
Not too sure what the 16M's should be insured for but after speaking to Chris (Dick Lovett) I will be insuring my Scud for £200k

Edited by Rocco1 on Wednesday 28th January 18:41
I have mine under an agreed value sum at £225,000.

Rocco1

3,081 posts

183 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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I have mine under an agreed value sum at £225,000.

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You will sturggle to buy a 16M for £225k


Edited by Rocco1 on Wednesday 28th January 23:29

FalconWood

1,359 posts

197 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Rocco1 said:
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I have mine under an agreed value sum at £225,000.
You will sturggle to buy a 16M for £225k


Edited by Rocco1 on Wednesday 28th January 23:29
I think your right - so why would you only insure yours for £200k!!??

FalconWood

1,359 posts

197 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Rocco1 said:
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I have mine under an agreed value sum at £225,000.
You will sturggle to buy a 16M for £225k


Edited by Rocco1 on Wednesday 28th January 23:29
I think your right - so why would you only insure yours for £200k!!??

Rocco1

3,081 posts

183 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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FalconWood said:
I think your right - so why would you only insure yours for £200k!!??
My car is only a Scud :-(
not a 16M :-)

FalconWood

1,359 posts

197 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Rocco1 said:
FalconWood said:
I think your right - so why would you only insure yours for £200k!!??
My car is only a Scud :-(
not a 16M :-)
OH I see - should have remembered!! smile

s99ane

1,262 posts

234 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Rocco1 said:
My car is only a Scud :-(
not a 16M :-)
Out of context this sounds totally ridiculous.

Paaah only a Scud, so common lol.

Rocco1

3,081 posts

183 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Out of context this sounds totally ridiculous.

Paaah only a Scud, so common lol.
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Approx 3000 Scuds were made opposed to 499 16M's
HTH

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

143 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Rocco1 said:
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Out of context this sounds totally ridiculous.

Paaah only a Scud, so common lol.
Approx 3000 Scuds were made opposed to 499 16M's
Uh - Ooooo not another Scud numbers debate... I thought it was nearer 2000 made? biggrin

Rocco1

3,081 posts

183 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Rocco1 said:
Slickhillsy said:
Uh - Ooooo not another Scud numbers debate... I thought it was nearer 2000 made? biggrin
Scud numbers are a guessing game at best lol
Maybe 2700??

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

143 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Rocco1 said:
Rocco1 said:
Slickhillsy said:
Uh - Ooooo not another Scud numbers debate... I thought it was nearer 2000 made? biggrin
Scud numbers are a guessing game at best lol
Maybe 2700??
Yeah sounds about right... lol

GRBF430F1

4,843 posts

170 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Do you really want to insure it at a fixed valuation when the market is going up ? Surely you are better off with "market value" if it moves £30k in a year like 2014 you could be out of pocket unless you build in some appreciation in your valuation

Russell996

494 posts

129 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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GRBF430F1 said:
Do you really want to insure it at a fixed valuation when the market is going up ? Surely you are better off with "market value" if it moves £30k in a year like 2014 you could be out of pocket unless you build in some appreciation in your valuation
Market value is tricky in a rising market when none are for sale. DL car just set the new high water mark for a dealer car although I know of a few private sales near the same figure. Unless you have an agreed value (and keep it updated) you might very easily end up out of pocket. I have to submit a Ferrari dealer valuation to Locktons to set an agreed value figure, they won't take my word for it. wink


Edited by Russell996 on Thursday 29th January 19:24

Jappo

1,120 posts

209 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Russell996 said:
GRBF430F1 said:
Do you really want to insure it at a fixed valuation when the market is going up ? Surely you are better off with "market value" if it moves £30k in a year like 2014 you could be out of pocket unless you build in some appreciation in your valuation
Market value is tricky in a rising market when none are for sale. DL car just set the new high water mark for a dealer car although I know of a few private sales near the same figure. Unless you have an agreed value (and keep it updated) you might very easily end up out of pocket. I have to submit a Ferrari dealer valuation to Locktons to set an agreed value figure, they won't take my word for it. wink


Edited by Russell996 on Thursday 29th January 19:24
Should have bought that Abu Dhabi blue one at £180K when I could have - not that long ago (wanted a red one) frown

HPO

44 posts

133 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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That would have suited me because I got fair bit less than that when it finally sold !!

FalconWood

1,359 posts

197 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Russell996 said:
GRBF430F1 said:
Do you really want to insure it at a fixed valuation when the market is going up ? Surely you are better off with "market value" if it moves £30k in a year like 2014 you could be out of pocket unless you build in some appreciation in your valuation
Market value is tricky in a rising market when none are for sale. DL car just set the new high water mark for a dealer car although I know of a few private sales near the same figure. Unless you have an agreed value (and keep it updated) you might very easily end up out of pocket. I have to submit a Ferrari dealer valuation to Locktons to set an agreed value figure, they won't take my word for it. wink


Edited by Russell996 on Thursday 29th January 19:24
I am insured on a collectors policy and have taken the matter of Agreed Values vs Market Value up with them as the cars rise in value so rapidly. I bought a 599GTO in March last year and the "asking prices" for higher mileage examples just 6 months later were 30% more! They advised me as follows:

1. Once per annum obtain an independent valuation at renewal time say.
2. Keep an eye (as best as you can given so few on the market!) on monthly value changes
3. Every qtr advise them of your valuation with examples etc and then they will adjust premium and also scheduled Agreed Value
4. In the event of a full claim they would pay your latest agreed value plus 50% of the difference between that Agreed Value and the latest price

I do not know if this would work if actually tested but there is some peace of mind that you are not going to fall foul of rapid price changes. I renewed in January so I will do a market check and advise them end of March, June etc and then get a proper valuation Dec.

I know this isn't quite the right thread for this but it does relate to your point Russell

Jappo

1,120 posts

209 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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HPO said:
That would have suited me because I got fair bit less than that when it finally sold !!
Thanks for making me feel better smile

_Leg_

2,798 posts

211 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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JCT Ferrari Leeds reckon they sold a 16M last week for £310k.

I was looking at a black Scud they have in at £220,000.

Ive decided not to. Im now wondering if I've made the right choice. FFS.

Murcielago_Boy

1,996 posts

239 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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_Leg_ said:
JCT Ferrari Leeds reckon they sold a 16M last week for £310k.

I was looking at a black Scud they have in at £220,000.

Ive decided not to. Im now wondering if I've made the right choice. FFS.
I'm not a fan of JCT.
But beyond that, if that's true (£310,000) then things really are out of control.

Rocco1

3,081 posts

183 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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_Leg_ said:
JCT Ferrari Leeds reckon they sold a 16M last week for £310k.

I was looking at a black Scud they have in at £220,000.

Ive decided not to. Im now wondering if I've made the right choice. FFS.
Scud for £220k (interesting)
Cant seem to find this Scud on their website
Do you have a link you can attach
Thank you