Has anyone put a Capristo Stage 1 Race Silencer on a F430?

Has anyone put a Capristo Stage 1 Race Silencer on a F430?

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allister

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564 posts

147 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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I'm looking to change the rear section of the exhaust on my F430, with a Capristo Stage 1 Race Silencer. This change should give a more high pitched sound than the current standard silencer.

Just wanted to know if anyone else had made this change to their F430 and if they were happy with the outcome - Also, advantages / disadvantages?

I've spoken with Scuderia Car Parts in Egham and they seem a decent bunch.... So plan to go there for supply and fit..

Any feedback on experience of this would be much appreciated.

Allister

An example video after change to Capristo is below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VACVgsE4BqM


chippy348

627 posts

147 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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I have a race system on my car and to be honest it is not that much different to the valves been open all the time. I was very disappointed with it and told scud systems this, they said it would get louder. It did not, what it did do is crack on a trip to italy last year causing much agro.

Avoid and save your money

allister

Original Poster:

564 posts

147 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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chippy348 said:
I have a race system on my car and to be honest it is not that much different to the valves been open all the time. I was very disappointed with it and told scud systems this, they said it would get louder. It did not, what it did do is crack on a trip to italy last year causing much agro.

Avoid and save your money
That's interesting chippy, thank you for that....

cgt2

7,099 posts

188 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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My main gripe with the 430 was the sound, not the musical high pitched sound of a 355/360 and at worst depending on the gear a bit of a boomy 'fart sound'. I explored this option as a hope of getting closer to the ideal Ferrari noise but two very experienced technicians advised me that due to the design of the 430's engine I would never be able to get the noise I wanted and the Capristo does nothing to change the overall character of the exhaust, the only real advantage is in weight saving.

As above, I was told to keep my money as the Capristo is not cheap. If you are after more noise you can simply wire open the valve which will give you a very similar effect to the Capristo.

allister

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564 posts

147 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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cgt2 said:
My main gripe with the 430 was the sound, not the musical high pitched sound of a 355/360 and at worst depending on the gear a bit of a boomy 'fart sound'. I explored this option as a hope of getting closer to the ideal Ferrari noise but two very experienced technicians advised me that due to the design of the 430's engine I would never be able to get the noise I wanted and the Capristo does nothing to change the overall character of the exhaust, the only real advantage is in weight saving.

As above, I was told to keep my money as the Capristo is not cheap. If you are after more noise you can simply wire open the valve which will give you a very similar effect to the Capristo.
Thanks cgt2 - I don't dislike the sound of my F430 but the same as you, if I'm honest, I do prefer (as you so rightly put it), the musical high pitched sound of a 355/360, I was hoping that the Capristo would help achieve this but it seems not.

Thanks for also sharing your advice on this.

Russell996

494 posts

129 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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There are plenty of options for F430 to get higher F1 pitch. This is an S-line x-pipe. Have considered a version for my 16M but have currently stuck with the full Capristo to keep the benefit of remotely controlled valves.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etN14-j94Gc

Edited by Russell996 on Friday 5th February 08:26

Murcielago_Boy

1,996 posts

239 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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Coming from 355 (which I still think is the best sounding F ever), I changed the system on my 430's immediately as I hated the stock sound to the point it made me want to sell the car!

Capristo sound nice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z96ZRtbOzS8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VACVgsE4BqM

Sounds a bit more 355-like. (God, i miss that car)



Edited by Murcielago_Boy on Friday 5th February 13:04

cgt2

7,099 posts

188 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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allister said:
Thanks cgt2 - I don't dislike the sound of my F430 but the same as you, if I'm honest, I do prefer (as you so rightly put it), the musical high pitched sound of a 355/360, I was hoping that the Capristo would help achieve this but it seems not.

Thanks for also sharing your advice on this.
I haven't seen the option mentioned above in terms of getting better pitch, but having had a few 355's and done quite a few miles in my X-Ost fitted 355 I felt the 430 was a let down in comparison (despite being a better car overall). I do have very fond memories of the 355 even though the steering was too light and the seats very uncomfortable on a long journey, but the noise was exceptional and that made up for a lot of other things. I compare the sound of every car I've had since with that as a reference point. I never got that kind of sonic buzz from the 430, though my Tubi'd straight pipe 550 was right up there (in a very different way to the 355, more growly). It is a very subjective thing.

If you can obtain a similar sound to a 355 from a 430 then that would be a great result. I tried valves open and closed and it wasn't good in either mode for me.

allister

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564 posts

147 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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cgt2 said:
I haven't seen the option mentioned above in terms of getting better pitch, but having had a few 355's and done quite a few miles in my X-Ost fitted 355 I felt the 430 was a let down in comparison (despite being a better car overall). I do have very fond memories of the 355 even though the steering was too light and the seats very uncomfortable on a long journey, but the noise was exceptional and that made up for a lot of other things. I compare the sound of every car I've had since with that as a reference point. I never got that kind of sonic buzz from the 430, though my Tubi'd straight pipe 550 was right up there (in a very different way to the 355, more growly). It is a very subjective thing.

If you can obtain a similar sound to a 355 from a 430 then that would be a great result. I tried valves open and closed and it wasn't good in either mode for me.
You're absolutely right - My brother had two F355 GTS's, which I also used to drive and for me, the F355 is the V8 king of sound!! (Reg No: S141 KJB was one, don't know if anyone on here has it now?)

The F430 however, was the right car at the time, on so many other levels, which is why I bought it.... If only it had the F355 sound, it would be the perfect car!

Bo_apex

2,534 posts

218 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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Russell996 said:
There are plenty of options for F430 to get higher F1 pitch. This is an S-line x-pipe. Have considered a version for my 16M but have currently stuck with the full Capristo to keep the benefit of remotely controlled valves.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etN14-j94Gc

Edited by Russell996 on Friday 5th February 08:26
X-Pipe design seems to work stunningly with V8's. Have one on a 928 and it transforms not just sounds but extra whoosh. All that sucking out gasses works beautifully smiledrink

allister

Original Poster:

564 posts

147 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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Russell996 said:
There are plenty of options for F430 to get higher F1 pitch. This is an S-line x-pipe. Have considered a version for my 16M but have currently stuck with the full Capristo to keep the benefit of remotely controlled valves.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etN14-j94Gc

Edited by Russell996 on Friday 5th February 08:26
Hi Russell, thanks for sharing this, the car sounds great in the video - I'm just getting a bit confused, some people are saying an F430 sound can be enhanced, some are saying it can't.

The video looks like it was shot in the USA, as anyone here in the UK done the same upgrade and achieved the same result?

keith jecks

81 posts

228 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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That sounds just like an F1 car, which would be fantastic on one of those rare track days with no noise limits! Unfortunately, in the real world, it is unusable on virtually any track day apart from the very rare open pipe days and far too antisocial to be used (I think) in SE England. I have actually gone the other way and bought a remote control for the valves to enable me to keep them shut, It irritates me when I am gently passing an old lady and suddenly the valves open up and make me look like a boy racer, when I am not actually going that fast - I have just exceeded 4,000 rpm. When I feel like playing, I will be able to keep the valves open, which should be fun. I haven't yet fitted it to the car, but am looking forward to trying it.

Russell996

494 posts

129 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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keith jecks said:
That sounds just like an F1 car, which would be fantastic on one of those rare track days with no noise limits! Unfortunately, in the real world, it is unusable on virtually any track day apart from the very rare open pipe days and far too antisocial to be used (I think) in SE England. I have actually gone the other way and bought a remote control for the valves to enable me to keep them shut, It irritates me when I am gently passing an old lady and suddenly the valves open up and make me look like a boy racer, when I am not actually going that fast - I have just exceeded 4,000 rpm. When I feel like playing, I will be able to keep the valves open, which should be fun. I haven't yet fitted it to the car, but am looking forward to trying it.
Forza Componenti?

voicey

2,453 posts

187 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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allister said:
I've spoken with Scuderia Car Parts in Egham and they seem a decent bunch.... So plan to go there for supply and fit..
Are they still using Verdi for their fitment?

Russell996

494 posts

129 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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allister said:
Hi Russell, thanks for sharing this, the car sounds great in the video - I'm just getting a bit confused, some people are saying an F430 sound can be enhanced, some are saying it can't.

The video looks like it was shot in the USA, as anyone here in the UK done the same upgrade and achieved the same result?
Not sure but there is a great thread on Ferrarichat that is worth reading.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430-sponsored...

allister

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564 posts

147 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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voicey said:
Are they still using Verdi for their fitment?
Not sure Voicey, I thought it was done by them in house?

Do you have an opinion on the Capristo Stage One and do you think it will significantly change the pitch?

allister

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564 posts

147 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Russell996 said:
Not sure but there is a great thread on Ferrarichat that is worth reading.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/360-430-sponsored...
Thanks Russell, I'll have a read through that now.

keith jecks

81 posts

228 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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Yes, Forza Comoponenti. I delight to deal with. I assume the kit works!!

sparta6

3,690 posts

100 months

Sunday 7th February 2016
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allister said:
Not sure Voicey, I thought it was done by them in house?

Do you have an opinion on the Capristo Stage One and do you think it will significantly change the pitch?
When they supplied a Tubi for my 348 they used QV for fitting, not sure if that's the current arrangement but QV are top draw and trusted.

Murcielago_Boy

1,996 posts

239 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Don't know what you gents had fitted but the Capristo changed my 430 Spider sound a lot. Pricey but worth it.They set up Macari's to fit mine.
No exhaust on any car though sounds like a 355. Probably reflected in the outrageous values we're seeing now for Ferraris prettiest, sexiest and best sounding production car IMO.