Someone Dented my P&J and Drove Off

Someone Dented my P&J and Drove Off

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stevesingo

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4,854 posts

222 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Saturday morning and the sun is shining so I decide to use my E30 M3 Sport Evo to take the kids to the Park Run. Parked in the road adjacent to the park and off we went for the run. Upon returning my son who is getting in the passenger (RH side) door complains that the door is stiff. I tell him to man up and get in. Upon arriving back at home, I discover that the RH front wing an door has been pushed in and causing the door to jam up against the wing. Obviously, when parked up someone backed in to my car and drove away leaving a dented wing and door behind. W***ers.

After a quick shower I return to the scene of the bump and try to establish how this may have happened. There are some properties adjacent to the parking space, but no cars present. During subsequent drive pasts I have identified a likely culprit. Opposite the place where I was parked there is a Silver Ford Focus fitted with tow bar (matching the 42cm height of the point of impact on my car), parked front first in a driveway.

At this point there are no witnesses, although the wife has posted up on the local park run social media site and on FB.

What is the PH collective advice? I don’t believe I have anything to take to the Police, who are busy enough.

Do I go around and give them the opportunity to cough up?

Audidodat

182 posts

99 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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In the past month I've had the C word scratched into my bonnet, a nice dent on a crease line and some utter nonce use a key to scrape up and down above the passenger door handle. All happened in different places and I haven't even been trying to upset anybody.

I can either get insanely pissed off to the point of overheating or shrug my shoulders, put it down to bad luck and hope these things only do come in 3s.

Good luck OP.

LankyLegoHead

749 posts

132 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Similar thing happened to my dad years ago with a weird old woman over the road. She reversed into his door, and drove off. When she got back my dad confronted her and she said "Oh yeah, I forgot about that" ?!? She did admit fault in the end. They may be hoping to get away with it, but a knock on the door may change things...

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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stevesingo said:
Saturday morning and the sun is shining so I decide to use my E30 M3 Sport Evo to take the kids to the Park Run. Parked in the road adjacent to the park and off we went for the run. Upon returning my son who is getting in the passenger (RH side) door complains that the door is stiff. I tell him to man up and get in. Upon arriving back at home, I discover that the RH front wing an door has been pushed in and causing the door to jam up against the wing. Obviously, when parked up someone backed in to my car and drove away leaving a dented wing and door behind. W***ers.

After a quick shower I return to the scene of the bump and try to establish how this may have happened. There are some properties adjacent to the parking space, but no cars present. During subsequent drive pasts I have identified a likely culprit. Opposite the place where I was parked there is a Silver Ford Focus fitted with tow bar (matching the 42cm height of the point of impact on my car), parked front first in a driveway.

At this point there are no witnesses, although the wife has posted up on the local park run social media site and on FB.

What is the PH collective advice? I don’t believe I have anything to take to the Police, who are busy enough.

Do I go around and give them the opportunity to cough up?
Unless there is a witness or some sort of CCTV coverage, you are pretty much screwed.

My dad's X5 was hit in a hotel car park last summer. He spoke to the hotel manager as there were 'covered by CCTV for your protection' signs everywhere. They basically said go to the police as they won't do anything with the CCTV until they are approached by the BIB.

As it was down in Cornwall and the damage wasn't that great (scuffs and a minor dent), he just left it. It's the fact that someone did it and drove off that is so annoying.

I have had multiple cars hit in the past too whilst parked on streets and in car parks.

I even heard of one spiteful person faking writing a note to the owner of a vehicle she hit. Apparently, there was a witness, so she told them she was writing a note and the witness seemed happy and left. What she actually wrote on the note was 'I've hit your car, but I'm not telling you who I am.' Very odd behaviour indeed.

Nedzilla

2,439 posts

174 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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You could give them a knock and see what they say. They might admit to it,they might not but having said that you are not 100% sure it was them.
I've often wondered how this stands in the eyes of the law though. Isn't this classed as leaving the scene of an accident which in my understanding is a serious offence? Just because the car was parked and no one was injured shouldn't change the matter.
I do feel your pain though,I have had a few nice cars myself and the only sure way to avoid this kind of thing is to be very,very careful where you leave them as most people just don't give a st.

Hope you get it sorted one way or another.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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stevesingo said:
Do I go around and give them the opportunity to cough up?
You can always ask. But bear in mind this is somebody who hit it, KNEW they hit it, and chose to park elsewhere rather than leave a note.

Also bear in mind that, if you think it's the towbar, most towbars are designed to sit at an almost identical height.

Leins

9,458 posts

148 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Sorry to hear, happened me a few times now too

You could always try bluffing, and tell them you have a witness who took down their reg?

Gary29

4,146 posts

99 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Happened to me parked on the road outside a friends house, the really irritating part was I was due to chop the car in for p/x literally a few days later, knocked a decent chunk off the value of the car.

Rear quarter panel and rear bumper was nicely dented and scratched.

The Moose

22,844 posts

209 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Leins said:
You could always try bluffing, and tell them you have a witness who took down their reg?
That's what I'd do - say someone stopped you as you got back to your car and mentioned that is was that car that bumped your car on that date.

Oh, and "leaving the scene of an accident"?!?! rofl not a chance they'll give a fk!!

stevesingo

Original Poster:

4,854 posts

222 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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I think I will pay them a visit and imply I know it was them, suggest to them that failing to report an accident to their insurance and the police is a serious issue.

vtecyo

2,122 posts

129 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Just say your in car cctv caught them doing it. That's your best chance of getting them to admit liability. Unless they ask to see footage of course. Just hope they're as stupid as their driving suggests.

Of course if it wasn't them, you'll get told to fk off and probably look like a total .

Cupramax

10,478 posts

252 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Yes, do this, video it on a headcam, it can only end well hehe

tejr

3,104 posts

164 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Go round, be friendly.. Suggest that you got their details because one of their 'neighbours' reported to you that they had seen the Focus back into your car.. It might provoke them to admit they backed into it if they did indeed realise they had done so.

If they refute it, you can't really do a huge amount as you don't really have a witness frown

ToothbrushMan

1,770 posts

125 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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without any witness or cctv id forget it and move on. maybe invest in a dash cam for the future

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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vtecyo said:
Just say your in car cctv caught them doing it. That's your best chance of getting them to admit liability. Unless they ask to see footage of course. Just hope they're as stupid as their driving suggests.

Of course if it wasn't them, you'll get told to fk off and probably look like a total .
You can also say that a passer by left a note on your car which said it was them.
(fabricate said note).


rohrl

8,725 posts

145 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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xjay1337 said:
You can also say that a passer by left a note on your car which said it was them.
(fabricate said note).
And what if it wasn't them? Then he'd look like a right wouldn't he?

It's a stty thing to happen but if you don't know who did it OP I'm afraid you're going to have to sort it out yourself or claim it off your own insurance. It's what you pay the premiums for after all.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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rohrl said:
xjay1337 said:
You can also say that a passer by left a note on your car which said it was them.
(fabricate said note).
And what if it wasn't them? Then he'd look like a right wouldn't he?

It's a stty thing to happen but if you don't know who did it OP I'm afraid you're going to have to sort it out yourself or claim it off your own insurance. It's what you pay the premiums for after all.
I've had my car reversed into by a Neighbour who got away scot free
I know how annoying it is
that was only my mk5 gti not my otherwise mint e30 m3 evo.
people should have more respect for other things.

if the focus was parked adjacent and the towbar is the correct higher and usually reverses out the it's highly likely in all honesty that it was the car involved in the incident.

we pay our insurance premiums because we have to and to cover us in the event of damage to our own cars or others.
not really to pay out for when other people crash into us, and run off and leave without an apology.

so i would absolutely knock on their door. say that you had a note to say that it appeared your (their) car bumped into mine and if you wouldn't mind talking about it
you'll find out fairly quickly.

at worst you'll have wasted 10 mins of your time, at best the repair is not coming out of your pocket.

Uncle John

4,283 posts

191 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Had the exact opposite. Left my car in an underground car park, went for a meal, returned and there was a note on the windscreen.

'Sorry I scraped your car, here are my details'


There are some decent people out there, just not enough...

the pips

187 posts

139 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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xjay1337 said:
vtecyo said:
Just say your in car cctv caught them doing it. That's your best chance of getting them to admit liability. Unless they ask to see footage of course. Just hope they're as stupid as their driving suggests.

Of course if it wasn't them, you'll get told to fk off and probably look like a total .
You can also say that a passer by left a note on your car which said it was them.
(fabricate said note).
Maybe that's what happened to me. I got a phone call from an insurance company asking about my damaging their clients car in a car park. Yes, I had parked in that car park but I sure as hell hadn't damaged any other cars. According to the insurance company someone saw it and left a note on the owners car. For a while I was bricking it waiting to hear what was going to happen. Fortunately nothing but it wasn't pleasant being blamed for something I hadn't done.

At the moment you may suspect it was them but you've no proof. I'm not sure but claiming you've proof could be construed as fraud or obtaining pecunary advantage by deception. Neither of which is good.

Best of luck getting it sorted.

Klippie

3,122 posts

145 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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If they don't fix your car wait a few weeks and take a bat to theirs, hit it around the top of the windscreen where it'll be very expensive to repair...s.

These type of people deserve every type of bad things to happen to them I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.