355 vs 360 vs 430 spider
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Mine had a reading of 24% wear at 12,000 miles but I did treat it with kid gloves.
14% at 16,000 sounds too low and wrong in the first place but then 53% at 16,000 miles seems high but slightly more believable.
My experience was that the % clutch wear for same mileage reduced with age in my 3 years of ownership. so you may be able to get another 20,000 miles out of it but depending what mileage pa you do and how long you keep it moving it on with high clutch wear will effect resale price
Reversing the car up a hill kills the clutch so its not necessary for the car to have been driven hard
14% at 16,000 sounds too low and wrong in the first place but then 53% at 16,000 miles seems high but slightly more believable.
My experience was that the % clutch wear for same mileage reduced with age in my 3 years of ownership. so you may be able to get another 20,000 miles out of it but depending what mileage pa you do and how long you keep it moving it on with high clutch wear will effect resale price
Reversing the car up a hill kills the clutch so its not necessary for the car to have been driven hard
mwstewart said:
I paid £2k to an independant for a clutch replacement - it included a new spigot bearing and fitment of a Hill bearing that I supplied.
There's a lot made about clutches but I don't think it's something to worry about. It's not expensive really.
At what mileage did you get the clutch replaced?There's a lot made about clutches but I don't think it's something to worry about. It's not expensive really.
FunkyMunky71 said:
mwstewart said:
I paid £2k to an independant for a clutch replacement - it included a new spigot bearing and fitment of a Hill bearing that I supplied.
There's a lot made about clutches but I don't think it's something to worry about. It's not expensive really.
At what mileage did you get the clutch replaced?There's a lot made about clutches but I don't think it's something to worry about. It's not expensive really.
24k - F1 (current car)
mine was 41% at the last service before I bought it, about 4,000 miles later it is now 40% (at 20,000 miles) so it's managed to regenerate ;-) - the ECU calculation is not an exact science.
The general view is, if it's over 60-70% get the dealer to replace as part of the deal - I understand the Ferrari power warranties have a threshold for this, less than that, just budget for a change in the next few years depending on usage.
as rambolambo mentioned, reversing, hill starts and creeping in traffic causes the wear, so if you drive it mostly on the open road the clutch should last for ages. I suppose its possible to wear 40% in 1600miles if all those miles where in a city. hard driving (such as track days) wont wear the clutch much, it's slipping it that over heats it and accelerates the wear. Having said that, Launch Control is infamous for eating clutches ... perhaps the last owner decided to try out LC on the day they traded it in
internet rumour suggests the clutch will do about 4 LC starts before needing replacing
Bearing in mind they said it was 14% when you signed up, I would probably push for a free clutch change as 14% is pretty much 'new'. or a couple of grand off which you can put aside for a clutch job when its due.
If they don't, I wouldn't worry too much - it's a small % of the purchase cost and even at 54% there is potentially years of wear left in it. It is unpleasant when a dealer miss-represents something, but it still seems like a lovely car!
The general view is, if it's over 60-70% get the dealer to replace as part of the deal - I understand the Ferrari power warranties have a threshold for this, less than that, just budget for a change in the next few years depending on usage.
as rambolambo mentioned, reversing, hill starts and creeping in traffic causes the wear, so if you drive it mostly on the open road the clutch should last for ages. I suppose its possible to wear 40% in 1600miles if all those miles where in a city. hard driving (such as track days) wont wear the clutch much, it's slipping it that over heats it and accelerates the wear. Having said that, Launch Control is infamous for eating clutches ... perhaps the last owner decided to try out LC on the day they traded it in
internet rumour suggests the clutch will do about 4 LC starts before needing replacingBearing in mind they said it was 14% when you signed up, I would probably push for a free clutch change as 14% is pretty much 'new'. or a couple of grand off which you can put aside for a clutch job when its due.
If they don't, I wouldn't worry too much - it's a small % of the purchase cost and even at 54% there is potentially years of wear left in it. It is unpleasant when a dealer miss-represents something, but it still seems like a lovely car!
Edited by paulmnz on Friday 20th May 09:55
Edited by paulmnz on Friday 20th May 09:57
Hi FunkyMunky71,
Have you taken delivery of your car yet?
I too am in the early stages of looking for a Black & Cream 2008+ F430 Spider and am doing my homework.
The 2 Meridian cars looked very similar to me apart from the carbon seats and rear grill, I think the Carbon car was £5K more expensive, do the seats & grill really make it worth 5K more or was there other factors that influenced the price and your decision?
I would actually prefer one without the carbon rear grill so to me that is personal preference.
How much does number of owners affect the resale & residuals? should I be worried about a 2008 car with 6 owners?
If anyone is thinking about selling their Black & Cream 2008+ F430 Spider please drop me a line
Have you taken delivery of your car yet?
I too am in the early stages of looking for a Black & Cream 2008+ F430 Spider and am doing my homework.
The 2 Meridian cars looked very similar to me apart from the carbon seats and rear grill, I think the Carbon car was £5K more expensive, do the seats & grill really make it worth 5K more or was there other factors that influenced the price and your decision?
I would actually prefer one without the carbon rear grill so to me that is personal preference.
How much does number of owners affect the resale & residuals? should I be worried about a 2008 car with 6 owners?
If anyone is thinking about selling their Black & Cream 2008+ F430 Spider please drop me a line
mik194 said:
Hi FunkyMunky71,
Have you taken delivery of your car yet?
I too am in the early stages of looking for a Black & Cream 2008+ F430 Spider and am doing my homework.
The 2 Meridian cars looked very similar to me apart from the carbon seats and rear grill, I think the Carbon car was £5K more expensive, do the seats & grill really make it worth 5K more or was there other factors that influenced the price and your decision?
I would actually prefer one without the carbon rear grill so to me that is personal preference.
How much does number of owners affect the resale & residuals? should I be worried about a 2008 car with 6 owners?
If anyone is thinking about selling their Black & Cream 2008+ F430 Spider please drop me a line
Six is a lot of owners for a 2008 car, and for me too many for this type of car. I would hold out...Have you taken delivery of your car yet?
I too am in the early stages of looking for a Black & Cream 2008+ F430 Spider and am doing my homework.
The 2 Meridian cars looked very similar to me apart from the carbon seats and rear grill, I think the Carbon car was £5K more expensive, do the seats & grill really make it worth 5K more or was there other factors that influenced the price and your decision?
I would actually prefer one without the carbon rear grill so to me that is personal preference.
How much does number of owners affect the resale & residuals? should I be worried about a 2008 car with 6 owners?
If anyone is thinking about selling their Black & Cream 2008+ F430 Spider please drop me a line
Hi mik194,
I just took delivery today!!!
If you read through this topic there's quite a lot of advice from some pretty clued up figures. The carbon fibre extras are apparently more desirable with some having cost a fair bit as options. I did indeed go for the car with the carbon race seats and carboceramic brakes. A lot of it boiled down to simply getting to showrooms a seeing/sitting in/driving the cars in the flesh. I really really liked the seats as a reasonably tall and broad shouldered and backed fellow the large carbon race seats meant I was much lower in the car and actually fitted into the seat rather than being squeezed out of it by the side bolsters. I also don't have to hunch to look out of the front uninsured.
Having just driven 2.5 hours of mainly motorway miles I'm really happy with my choice (apart from a niggly rattle in the driver's door and a slight squeak in the rear right suspension). I was amazed how quiet and comfortable it was as a motorway cruiser. The car has a few stone chips on the bodywork and screen but it's 8 years old and I won't be a devastated when I pick up the inevitable ones myself. I looked at a 14k mile car at Greypaul Birmingham with was in superb condition with a stunning full CF interior and upgrades aplenty but I just don't like the Daytonas as much as the race seats and it didn't have the brakes.
Ultimately it's down to what you like your cars for. The one I've ended up with just seemed to have that extra bit of character with its sparser interior and carbon seats. It's still got some good options and the aficionados seem to love the carbon rear insert so I'm happy with that
I hope this helps, but have a closer look through the thread for some more insights, and lively debate of course!
I just took delivery today!!!
If you read through this topic there's quite a lot of advice from some pretty clued up figures. The carbon fibre extras are apparently more desirable with some having cost a fair bit as options. I did indeed go for the car with the carbon race seats and carboceramic brakes. A lot of it boiled down to simply getting to showrooms a seeing/sitting in/driving the cars in the flesh. I really really liked the seats as a reasonably tall and broad shouldered and backed fellow the large carbon race seats meant I was much lower in the car and actually fitted into the seat rather than being squeezed out of it by the side bolsters. I also don't have to hunch to look out of the front uninsured.
Having just driven 2.5 hours of mainly motorway miles I'm really happy with my choice (apart from a niggly rattle in the driver's door and a slight squeak in the rear right suspension). I was amazed how quiet and comfortable it was as a motorway cruiser. The car has a few stone chips on the bodywork and screen but it's 8 years old and I won't be a devastated when I pick up the inevitable ones myself. I looked at a 14k mile car at Greypaul Birmingham with was in superb condition with a stunning full CF interior and upgrades aplenty but I just don't like the Daytonas as much as the race seats and it didn't have the brakes.
Ultimately it's down to what you like your cars for. The one I've ended up with just seemed to have that extra bit of character with its sparser interior and carbon seats. It's still got some good options and the aficionados seem to love the carbon rear insert so I'm happy with that
I hope this helps, but have a closer look through the thread for some more insights, and lively debate of course!
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