Are Speciale That Special

[EvoBlade]

Slickhillsy said:

I have a question for Speciale owners / drivers. Would be keen to hear someones opinion of the Spec. vs the 991 GT3 RS? Seeing as they are arch rivals does anyone have a fair seat time comparison?

I have both and they are totally different cars. The RS is surgical in its driving where the Speciale is flamboyant and a handful at times. Easier to extract the time from the RS

[rosino]

I can only compare it to the 991 GT3 I had previously. As said above the GT3 is more precise and less prone to dance around. Engine is significantly less powerful and the Speciale murders it with the torque and shorter gears.

I find the Speciale more fun to drive because I get to use more gears and there is always push mo matter which one you are in. I often find myself trying to shift up in 7th because it's still pulling hard :-)

The balance of the Speciale is just extraordinary and let's you really dance around which for me makes it much more entertaining to drive, it's just much more lively and wants to go sideways anytime you give it the go ahead.

[430scuderia1]

rosino said:

I can only compare it to the 991 GT3 I had previously. As said above the GT3 is more precise and less prone to dance around. Engine is significantly less powerful and the Speciale murders it with the torque and shorter gears.

I find the Speciale more fun to drive because I get to use more gears and there is always push mo matter which one you are in. I often find myself trying to shift up in 7th because it's still pulling hard :-)

The balance of the Speciale is just extraordinary and let's you really dance around which for me makes it much more entertaining to drive, it's just much more lively and wants to go sideways anytime you give it the go ahead.

That sums it up, the Speciale is a great car with near perfect balance and is a dream to drive, the GT3 is a weapon but won't bring a smile to your face like a speciale.

[Juno]

EvoBlade said:

Slickhillsy said:

I have a question for Speciale owners / drivers. Would be keen to hear someones opinion of the Spec. vs the 991 GT3 RS? Seeing as they are arch rivals does anyone have a fair seat time comparison?

I have both and they are totally different cars. The RS is surgical in its driving where the Speciale is flamboyant and a handful at times. Easier to extract the time from the RS

EvoBlade can pedal so what he says will be good information

[Juno]

Looks like there are some nice examples around now at sub £300k

[AmoCS]

Juno said:

Looks like there are some nice examples around now at sub £300k

You can keep track here -

http://www.clubstradale.com/ferrari-458-speciale-s...

[Juno]

Thanks for info

AmoCS said:

You can keep track here -

http://www.clubstradale.com/ferrari-458-speciale-s...

[Juno]

Well a few years on and I’ve decided that the Speciale is Special. With all the new models arriving onto the market IMO the 458 Speciale is now looking timeless! I can’t somehow see the current crop of cars ageing in the same way and NA engine to boot!!!

[f1ten]

Agreed but they are not looking like they are selling at 320k for a rhd. The market looks like it anticipates a correction?!

[Juno]

I shall watch with interest !

f1ten said:

Agreed but they are not looking like they are selling at 320k for a rhd. The market looks like it anticipates a correction?!

[MDL111]

Great cars, but I think I'd rather have a 675 LT for less money
for a little more

and for a little more money (admittedly not insignificant), this would be awesome
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...

[isaldiri]

MDL111 said:

Great cars, but I think I'd rather have a 675 LT for less money
for a little more

and for a little more money (admittedly not insignificant), this would be awesome
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...

Can't agree there tbh, the 599, even in gto form is just too big and heavy imo. The speciale is a much nicer car to drive imo. Now 675 or speciale becomes much more of a close run thing though...

[MDL111]

isaldiri said:

MDL111 said:

Great cars, but I think I'd rather have a 675 LT for less money
for a little more

and for a little more money (admittedly not insignificant), this would be awesome
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...

Can't agree there tbh, the 599, even in gto form is just too big and heavy imo. The speciale is a much nicer car to drive imo. Now 675 or speciale becomes much more of a close run thing though...

fair point re size and weight (esp weight), but a V12 occasional track day car would still be quite special

My next car will hopefully be a 458 Challenge with a road registration - still not light-weight, but hopefully still relatively light compared to a road car (esp given the full cage in it)

[MDL111]

picture for reference - the want is strong on this one ....

[RamboLambo]

MDL111 said:

Great cars, but I think I'd rather have a 675 LT for less money
for a little more

and for a little more money (admittedly not insignificant), this would be awesome
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...

Love the 458 Speciale's N/A engine but overall still another vote here for the 675LT.especially in spider form where the equivalent 458 Speciale is twice the price at circa £600k

Who knows how many Speciales are out there wheras the McLaren is LIMITED to only 500/500 coupe/spider worldwide

[MDL111]

I suspect there are a lot of Speciales out there - probably 3k cars or more given I read somewhere that they already built 2-2.5k Scuds and that was sold in much more difficult economic times

[f1ten]

I want a speciale badly but there is only so much demand for cars and they can't all be owned by big collectors for ever. Which means some will need to sell and the world economy has been doped up to the eyeballs on cheap debt which as we know can't last forever. When the pista start being offered for 400k + yes the speciale will hold value but when the pistas start calming down then surely the non limited speciale is at risk of dropping. I could see 50/70k coming off the value.

[RamboLambo]

f1ten said:

I want a speciale badly but there is only so much demand for cars and they can't all be owned by big collectors for ever. Which means some will need to sell and the world economy has been doped up to the eyeballs on cheap debt which as we know can't last forever. When the pista start being offered for 400k + yes the speciale will hold value but when the pistas start calming down then surely the non limited speciale is at risk of dropping. I could see 50/70k coming off the value.

I'm not convinced on either of those fronts. 488 Pista is so hard to get hold of I can foresee a £100k premium and not many on the market.
As the last N/A engine from Ferrari the speciale will exceed the market and stay strong.
I think value for money a low mileage 430 Scuderia is a good buy at circa £200k Great car - gearbox and sound are sublime and low production volumes

[av185]

Pista will easily command a minimum 100 percent premium otr cost expected.

[moneymakestheworldgoaround]

MDL111 said:

I suspect there are a lot of Speciales out there - probably 3k cars

Matches up to the data I have.