so which model would you go for?

so which model would you go for?

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ukshooter

501 posts

212 months

Sunday 8th January 2017
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LukeyLikey said:
I think your logic is flawed here. A 430 has been steady/appreciating over the last couple of years. A well looked after, normal or even slightly high mileage car, properly driven as the maker intended, will not lose too much unless there is a collapse in the market.

If there is a collapse in the market you still hold your car and wait it out, normality (whatever that means) will return.

To sell your car now and buy a different one means you have the sellers and buyers profit to pay. Also, have you seen nice 308 pricing lately? Same for 355 and 550. They have all been affected by the same thing as the 430.

So the only solution for you to protect the value you have in your 430 is to sell it and buy another brand. I don't believe there is better value anywhere else in a Ferrari. You could have a go at something like a Mondial, but it is not a great car and they are even £35-£50k for nice ones now. I personally would not pay that.
Just wondering why you say the Mondial is not a great car? I cannot speak for the original Mondial 8 because I only drove one once but averaged 7,000 miles a year in a QV. The QV handled better than the 308. I guess the longer wheelbase made the difference as pretty much everything else was the same. Change the TRX's for modern tyres and the difference is even more noticeable if you want a car as a daily driver or for hill climbs etc.

The only problem is finding a good Mondial if you want a convertible. The QV is the least expensive to maintain but also the rarest. Unbelievably, just 629 QV cabriolet's were made and only 24 came to the UK in RHD. I have only seen one other decent one besides mine (QV).

Bo_apex

2,562 posts

218 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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Mondial T has been a great real-world Ferrari.

Gated box has enjoyed racing, hill climbs and many runs to Cannes.

Superb analogue handling, enough power to get you into trouble, and out of it. Harmonics with the Tubi is excellent smile


baypond

398 posts

135 months

Monday 9th January 2017
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LukeyLikey said:
I don't mind if people gain enjoymemt from collecting and not driving cars, but if you're in it for the driving then I reckon it's worth getting on with it. It absolutely is not the most important thing in life but if you enjoy it then you should do it.
Absolutely spot on. And if you can possibly add an extra car or two to your garage, then this is a good way to spread the mileage, and enjoy different types of motoring! I know for most, that is not an option.
The other point is, that if you are worried about mileage on your cars, then buy a replica or a recreation. For some reason, mileage becomes almost irrelevant. My Suffolk C Type reads 3,000 miles on the clock, but it's a 60 year old XK 140 engine so probably has more like 100/150/200k miles on it? Compression tests look good, it doesn't use much oil, and internals seem in good shape. Same with Alfaholic Alfas, and Rennsport Porsches.

bordseye

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1,983 posts

192 months

Thursday 12th January 2017
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Prompted by another thread on another forum I had a look at the mileages that "toy" cars do as shown by dealer adverts. A bit to my surprise the average annual mileage seemed to be about 1500/2000 which as it happens is what I used to do in my Lotus and what I still do on my bike.
Its a bit short of being a statistically sound analysis so dont flame me on that point. And there are numbers of Porsches that do high mileages but then they arent being used as "toy" cars but as business transport. But cars like Ferrari, Morgan, Lotus mostly seem to fit that 1500/2000 norm.

ukshooter

501 posts

212 months

Friday 13th January 2017
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bordseye said:
Prompted by another thread on another forum I had a look at the mileages that "toy" cars do as shown by dealer adverts. A bit to my surprise the average annual mileage seemed to be about 1500/2000 which as it happens is what I used to do in my Lotus and what I still do on my bike.
Its a bit short of being a statistically sound analysis so dont flame me on that point. And there are numbers of Porsches that do high mileages but then they arent being used as "toy" cars but as business transport. But cars like Ferrari, Morgan, Lotus mostly seem to fit that 1500/2000 norm.
And then some of us use the toys as daily drivers smile (80,000 in 3 years in Morgan Aero 8)although my best year in the Ferrari has only been 7,000 but it has mainly been used when taking passengers (2+2)

bordseye

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1,983 posts

192 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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As with any rule Shooter, there are exceptions and in the case of mileage that looks like you. Most of us doing a high annual mileage cant use a sportscar for it even if we wanted to do so.
Typical mileage is obvious from adverts