Which Ferrari's

[gt2-r]

Hi, I'm after views on which Ferrari you'd choose between certain models. For example given the following choices what are the views on these. For the record I've not driven any of them, hence after some views;

308 or 328? I'm tending towards late model 328 with ABS.

360 CS / Scud / Speciale? Really unsure choosing from these. Scud looks under valued?? What's driving the CS price, is it really that good?

Testarosa / 512 TR? I'm tending towards the 512TR, from what I've read a much better drive and personally I prefer the overall look.

Edited by gt2-r on Thursday 16th February 21:40

[Behemoth]

gt2-r said:

Hi, I'm after views on which Ferrari's you'd choose between certain models.

Which Ferrari

There, fixed it for you

[KenC]

Your garage on here says you already have a Scuderia.

[MDL111]

308 vs 328 - I prefer the interior of the 308 but the exterior of the 328. ex girlfriend had a 328 black/crema GTS .... loved that car, so will go with 328 GTS

Scud, CS, Speciale. Well that is a bit of a budget question ...the Scud seems to be best value for money even if I prefer the looks of the other two. Have not driven any of them, but if I could afford it I would get a Speciale. CS looks and sounds amazing and is the rarest of them, but I think I'd be happier with a manual 360 that I then modify to be as light as a CS

Soft spot for TR512, so much so I seriously considered buying one last year. Prefer the looks to the other Testarossa iterations and as you said supoosedly it drives a lot better than the standard car. Was also the first 12 cylinder I ever passengered in a long time ago, so makes it even more special to me

So now you have my very biased opinion..... I doubt it will be particularly helpful

Ah and I think they are all overvalued atm as none apart from the CS (at a stretch) can be called rare.

[superpippo]

gt2-r said:

Hi, I'm after views on which Ferrari's you'd choose between certain models. For example given the following choices what are the views on these. For the record I've not driven any of them, hence after some views;

308 or 328? I'm tending towards late model 328 with ABS.

360 CS / Scud / Speciale? Really unsure choosing from these. Scud looks under valued?? What's driving the CS price, is it really that good?

Testarosa / 512 TR? I'm tending towards the 512TR, from what I've read a much better drive and personally I prefer the overall look.

My contribution:

• 328 (without ABS)
• CS to keep, Scud to drive
• 512TR

[gt2-r]

KenC said:

Your garage on here says you already have a Scuderia.

Hi Ken, yes I have a 430 scuderia GT3. Totally different car. Mine is the final 2011 Evo spec.

Thanks for the views. Why the preference for non ABS 328. Interested to know thoughts on that. Thanks.

[baypond]

gt2-r said:

Thanks for the views. Why the preference for non ABS 328. Interested to know thoughts on that. Thanks.

you didn't ask me but......
I have a 328 with ABS. I believe the brakes are better than pre-ABS but if I am honest the concave alloys of the pre-ABS car look better than the convex of the ABS version.

[MDL111]

gt2-r said:

KenC said:

Your garage on here says you already have a Scuderia.

Hi Ken, yes I have a 430 scuderia GT3. Totally different car. Mine is the final 2011 Evo spec.

Thanks for the views. Why the preference for non ABS 328. Interested to know thoughts on that. Thanks.

Just looked at your garage .... mostly old Porsches that surely have had paint at some point

not jealous at all

[superpippo]

baypond said:

you didn't ask me but......
I have a 328 with ABS. I believe the brakes are better than pre-ABS but if I am honest the concave alloys of the pre-ABS car look better than the convex of the ABS version.

This and the non ABS is generally considered more collectible. Also that was a very early ABS system and it worked so so...

[gt2-r]

Thanks MDL111. Been doing the Porsche thing for 20 years, absolutely love the 90s RS and motorsport stuff. However life's too short to not try the others, so started buying my childhood Poster cars. Bought a Countach, then was set to buy a Testarossa, but decided on 512 tr, which I've now done a deal on. Currently pondering the 308 or 328 option, but undecided.

Thanks for pointing out abs car differences on 328. Now the wheels have been mentioned I prefer the non abs too.

[Bo_apex]

gt2-r said:

Thanks MDL111. Been doing the Porsche thing for 20 years, absolutely love the 90s RS and motorsport stuff. However life's too short to not try the others, so started buying my childhood Poster cars. Bought a Countach, then was set to buy a Testarossa, but decided on 512 tr, which I've now done a deal on. Currently pondering the 308 or 328 option, but undecided.

Thanks for pointing out abs car differences on 328. Now the wheels have been mentioned I prefer the non abs too.

Carbs 308 is a more visceral experience than a 328. Both great cars, it's a tough call. 328 is a bit more reliable in my experience, but 308 has pure lines and switchgear more evocative. Gotta try both really.

[LA458SP]

Can only comment on 360 CS / SCUD / SPECIALE as I went through the same process last year.

I traded down from Speciale to Scud:

- financially it did make sense for me (get that out of the way first)

- The SCUD was/is certainly undervalued relative to the other 2 and I believe holds the best potential for short term residuals

- The SCUD will still benefit from Ferrari warranty (when buying through OFD) whereas the CS is to old now.

- Performance is still breathtaking and feels so special to drive. Naturally its down on the Speciale but not night and day (it's very much on a par with a 458 in term of acceleration and speed) IMO still way to fast to safely exploit on the roads, but it is night and day compared to a CS

- it does feel very special to drive and even just sit in, more so than the Speciale but maybe not as raw as CS

- it's a rare car. There as far more speciales out there in the region of 2 to 1 and only slightly fewer CS.

All 3 are so special, gorgeous, raw and loud drivers cars but ultimately I went with the SCUD as it is still a very fast car by modern standards, one that I can enjoy driving hard (under warranty), very rare/exclusive and the best value for money.

[gt2-r]

Bo_apex said:

Carbs 308 is a more visceral experience than a 328. Both great cars, it's a tough call. 328 is a bit more reliable in my experience, but 308 has pure lines and switchgear more evocative. Gotta try both really.

Thanks Bo. That's my dilemma on these 2. I like the different aspects of each.

[gt2-r]

LA458SP said:

Can only comment on 360 CS / SCUD / SPECIALE as I went through the same process last year.

I traded down from Speciale to Scud:

- financially it did make sense for me (get that out of the way first)

- The SCUD was/is certainly undervalued relative to the other 2 and I believe holds the best potential for short term residuals

- The SCUD will still benefit from Ferrari warranty (when buying through OFD) whereas the CS is to old now.

- Performance is still breathtaking and feels so special to drive. Naturally its down on the Speciale but not night and day (it's very much on a par with a 458 in term of acceleration and speed) IMO still way to fast to safely exploit on the roads, but it is night and day compared to a CS

- it does feel very special to drive and even just sit in, more so than the Speciale but maybe not as raw as CS

- it's a rare car. There as far more speciales out there in the region of 2 to 1 and only slightly fewer CS.

All 3 are so special, gorgeous, raw and loud drivers cars but ultimately I went with the SCUD as it is still a very fast car by modern standards, one that I can enjoy driving hard (under warranty), very rare/exclusive and the best value for money.

Thanks for your view on these. Good to hear that you've been through the same process, had the 458 and still think highly of the Scud. Relative to the other 2 it does look the most value.

[DarrenKMC]

Whats the concensus on RHD Scud values right now?

[KenC]

DarrenKMC said:

Whats the concensus on RHD Scud values right now?

There is a massive spread in asking prices. They also appear to be selling well over winter - I think there are only 5 on PH at the moment. On this basis I can't see prices softening, particularly for the best ones.

[Wombat3]

superpippo said:

baypond said:

you didn't ask me but......
I have a 328 with ABS. I believe the brakes are better than pre-ABS but if I am honest the concave alloys of the pre-ABS car look better than the convex of the ABS version.

This and the non ABS is generally considered more collectible. Also that was a very early ABS system and it worked so so...

But it does work well enough & to be honest, who is going to be driving a 30 year old card that hard to really need it? There are much better (and cheaper) things to take to the track these days.

The later cars also have revised suspension geometry which makes a difference. There are a few non-ABS cars with this (usually referred to as 88.5s) which seem to be the most desirable cars for some.

Preference between the ABS & Non ABS cars does also seem to come down to the wheels which are a bit of a marmite thing. Personally I prefer the later convex versions - though they'd all be better if there was a decent 17" replacement :-).

[LA458SP]

DarrenKMC said:

Whats the concensus on RHD Scud values right now?

Setting the monetary value of these cars aside the Scud is currently looking the 'relative' bargain of the trio with good RHD cars from across the mileage and spec spectrum being in the region of:

Scud - 180-230k

CS - 210-300k

Speciale - 290-350k

The Scud did have its big move in price around 2014 but since then have stabilised without any significant movement. Whereas the CS has continued to increase year on year (although I think we are starting to starting to see some correction now). The Speciale just went mental at the back end of 2015 early 2016 after production stopped and everyone thought they'd missed the boat for the last na v8 (again this has seen some correction recently after a number of cars flooded back on the market).

I just can't see the Scud values falling unless the market in general suffers. However I do see potential for values to rise relative to the CS/Speciale should the market pick up on this.

[WCZ]

LA458SP said:

Setting the monetary value of these cars aside the Scud is currently looking the 'relative' bargain of the trio with good RHD cars from across the mileage and spec spectrum being in the region of:

Scud - 180-230k

CS - 210-300k

Speciale - 290-350k

The Scud did have its big move in price around 2014 but since then have stabilised without any significant movement. Whereas the CS has continued to increase year on year (although I think we are starting to starting to see some correction now). The Speciale just went mental at the back end of 2015 early 2016 after production stopped and everyone thought they'd missed the boat for the last na v8 (again this has seen some correction recently after a number of cars flooded back on the market).

I just can't see the Scud values falling unless the market in general suffers. However I do see potential for values to rise relative to the CS/Speciale should the market pick up on this.

scud @ 180 is still good value imo

[DarrenKMC]

WCZ said:

scud @ 180 is still good value imo

I would agree, I must admit my question was loaded to a certain extent to gauge opinion after having been told a great car I have at the lower end of the mentioned spectrum was not.