Challenge Stradale thread

Challenge Stradale thread

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RED110T

367 posts

118 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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355fiorano said:
I'm sure its easier/cheaper/quicker to get it striped and repainted. Its the original part and for whatever reason, if a future owner wants it white again he can do the same.
I'd also get a main dealer stamp for a service. Although i know in many cases indies can be better (and I use them too for the 308 & 355) for the strad it has to be main dealer. I know when I was looking, it was critical that it had main dealer and also frequent (which yours does) but the record is a bit spoiled by the indie. Also when I sold my 993 and a friend sold his 355 last year, both had dealer stamps from new, for every year of their life, the cars sold within a week and to the first viewing, at asking!
Good Indie for me is fine, I wouldn't care at all as long as reputable.

355fiorano

429 posts

241 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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@ Scooby & Thrasher
I will be out for a spin today
Probably around 4pm jacks on Walton St and then maybe near brinkleys
Let me know if you fancy doing a little 3 strad meet ...

roygarth

2,673 posts

247 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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355fiorano said:
I'm sure its easier/cheaper/quicker to get it striped and repainted. Its the original part and for whatever reason, if a future owner wants it white again he can do the same.
I'd also get a main dealer stamp for a service. Although i know in many cases indies can be better (and I use them too for the 308 & 355) for the strad it has to be main dealer. I know when I was looking, it was critical that it had main dealer and also frequent (which yours does) but the record is a bit spoiled by the indie. Also when I sold my 993 and a friend sold his 355 last year, both had dealer stamps from new, for every year of their life, the cars sold within a week and to the first viewing, at asking!
For various reasons I've done less than 1000 miles in both my 550 and 360CS since there were both serviced 12 months ago at Colchester Ferrari - they both have full Ferrari only service histories.

Do I really have to get them serviced again now or can it wait until this time next year? It just seems insane to swap out perfectly good oil now. Two years yes I can see that as oil may start to degrade. As years go by does market begin to accept slightly longer service intervals assuming milage is minimal?

911Thrasher

2,573 posts

198 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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355fiorano said:
@ Scooby & Thrasher
I will be out for a spin today
Probably around 4pm jacks on Walton St and then maybe near brinkleys
Let me know if you fancy doing a little 3 strad meet ...
Sorry buddy, just saw that...car booked in for service at Egham w/ Mandy smile will be back on the streets mid-March, and actually gone surfing until then, Californian weather much nicer than here.

355fiorano

429 posts

241 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Glad you to told me that
I'm not jealous at all ...
You missed such a great day here rolleyes

If its/you are back by the 7th March ... RMA Donnington unsilenced ?

Edited by 355fiorano on Sunday 19th February 08:25

355fiorano

429 posts

241 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Glad you to told me that
I'm not jealous at all ...
You missed such a great day here rolleyes

baypond

398 posts

134 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Picked up the CS this morning after its annual service and cambelt change. The emissions (engine light) has been coming on a bit recently and a check showed up the usual messages. So decided to give it a slightly longer run today to clear the cobwebs, which seems to have cleared the issue.
Just proves that these cars HAVE to be driven. Can't wait for the next dry weekend.

100 IAN

1,091 posts

161 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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baypond said:
Can't wait for the next dry weekend.
Come and join us next Saturday for a run down to Goodwood, I'm sure I can squeeze you in!

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Scooby P1

2,616 posts

228 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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355fiorano said:
Glad you to told me that
I'm not jealous at all ...
You missed such a great day here rolleyes
Damn, missed out on that and it was such a nice day (in Hampshire). Much like Thrasher mine is waiting for a service and is currently SORN but will be back on the road in March.
Find me on instagram (lrchorne) as I put up quite a few pics of my Saturday spent in Hampshire with the car collection in the sunshine....

Who was CS04 MOD that was spotted this weekend in Belgravia? Only 3 letters away from being my actual car!

Scooby P1

2,616 posts

228 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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baypond said:
Picked up the CS this morning after its annual service and cambelt change. The emissions (engine light) has been coming on a bit recently and a check showed up the usual messages. So decided to give it a slightly longer run today to clear the cobwebs, which seems to have cleared the issue.
Just proves that these cars HAVE to be driven. Can't wait for the next dry weekend.
Mine had only been started once in about 3 months and the engine light wouldn't go out when I got it out this weekend. What check needs to be done?
It's off for a service next month so will get it seen to, but I think you are right they like to be driven.

Taking out for a prolonged drive with some higher revs makes the engine light go off? Mine even started flashing at once point when it was idling on Saturday!?

355fiorano

429 posts

241 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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roygarth said:
For various reasons I've done less than 1000 miles in both my 550 and 360CS since there were both serviced 12 months ago at Colchester Ferrari - they both have full Ferrari only service histories.

Do I really have to get them serviced again now or can it wait until this time next year? It just seems insane to swap out perfectly good oil now. Two years yes I can see that as oil may start to degrade. As years go by does market begin to accept slightly longer service intervals assuming mileage is minimal?
I'm with you on that but the fact is that, if you bought at top dollar (which I think I did for my CS) then you want to make sure you sell at top dollar.
For my 308/355 I service at an indie and not always every year now, as I am in the unfortunate position with too many cars and too little time to fully enjoy them, so they do a shameful number of miles a year.

With the CS though, I will service every year and keep main dealer history that it has had. In fact, when I bought it, the main dealer had already done a service and all sorts of work to make sure it needs nothing. Their pre-sales service was done 9 months and about 50miles before I bought it. I asked them to stamp the book to show they did it. They would not !!! They wanted to do another service. Clearly this was to make extra money, although they said it was Ferrari policy. Irrespective, I still deemed it important enough to pay them the extra grand for their stamp, and they apparently changed all oils, filters, spark plugs etc when the car had covered hardly any miles at all since this was done before!

Although I refuse to be the parking attendant for my cars next owner by not driving it and I try to use/enjoy it at every opportunity, I do still want to keep its impeccable history in the hope that when I have to sell (hopefully in in VERY long time) I will get a good valuation (up or down from the current market)

355fiorano

429 posts

241 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Scooby P1 said:
Mine had only been started once in about 3 months and the engine light wouldn't go out when I got it out this weekend. What check needs to be done?
It's off for a service next month so will get it seen to, but I think you are right they like to be driven.

Taking out for a prolonged drive with some higher revs makes the engine light go off? Mine even started flashing at once point when it was idling on Saturday!?
When I had this issue, my light would not go off. Since the dealer sent the ECU back to Maranelo and they re-flashed it I have not had any issues.

As I think I mentioned before, I was told that my light went on as the weather was cold and the CS tolerances were set too tight. Ferrari, re-flash with updated tolerances and it sorts the problem. I wonder if it goes away though if the weather gets warmer or it still needs to get reset.

roygarth

2,673 posts

247 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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355fiorano said:
roygarth said:
For various reasons I've done less than 1000 miles in both my 550 and 360CS since there were both serviced 12 months ago at Colchester Ferrari - they both have full Ferrari only service histories.

Do I really have to get them serviced again now or can it wait until this time next year? It just seems insane to swap out perfectly good oil now. Two years yes I can see that as oil may start to degrade. As years go by does market begin to accept slightly longer service intervals assuming mileage is minimal?
I'm with you on that but the fact is that, if you bought at top dollar (which I think I did for my CS) then you want to make sure you sell at top dollar.
For my 308/355 I service at an indie and not always every year now, as I am in the unfortunate position with too many cars and too little time to fully enjoy them, so they do a shameful number of miles a year.

With the CS though, I will service every year and keep main dealer history that it has had. In fact, when I bought it, the main dealer had already done a service and all sorts of work to make sure it needs nothing. Their pre-sales service was done 9 months and about 50miles before I bought it. I asked them to stamp the book to show they did it. They would not !!! They wanted to do another service. Clearly this was to make extra money, although they said it was Ferrari policy. Irrespective, I still deemed it important enough to pay them the extra grand for their stamp, and they apparently changed all oils, filters, spark plugs etc when the car had covered hardly any miles at all since this was done before!

Although I refuse to be the parking attendant for my cars next owner by not driving it and I try to use/enjoy it at every opportunity, I do still want to keep its impeccable history in the hope that when I have to sell (hopefully in in VERY long time) I will get a good valuation (up or down from the current market)
Unfortunately I agree with you. I suppose the question is when can one move the 360CS onto the regime which you follow for your 308/355 and which I follow on my 1990 964 and 1970 911T? Perceived wisdom would suggest that oil is good for at least 2 years. So if minimal miles are done that should be the interval. Like you I don't dare do this as I'm worried about market reaction come sale time...waste of money but there you go.

nigelonich

1,017 posts

219 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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A downside of long term CS storage is the F1 Gearbox pump. The red warning light comes on so its not just a case of letting the car run for a while, you need to change gear more than you would normally too to exercise the gear system.

355fiorano

429 posts

241 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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The other downside of no use that I found was that the rubber bits get dry and you get leaks.
My car had only done 10k miles and in the last 2/3 years before I bought it, hardly any. The dealer found that the rubbers in the piston calipers had gone brittle and had a small leak. All credit to them, at no charge, they took them apart and replaced these rubbers. Interestingly, the big question was if Ferrari are still producing these repair kits. I don't know if they still do but thankfully they did have one in stock at the factory but it took a while. Now at least I have new parts and given that I use the car, I hope they will keep lubricated and last.

Scooby P1

2,616 posts

228 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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nigelonich said:
A downside of long term CS storage is the F1 Gearbox pump. The red warning light comes on so its not just a case of letting the car run for a while, you need to change gear more than you would normally too to exercise the gear system.
I wonder if that can be the same on other cars. A strange red light came on in the DBS at the weekend as that's not been used much either. Seemed to go away as I did the best part of a 100 mile journey but possibly could be related to the gearbox as well?

What do people do in winter? There's definitely been a solid 2 months where the road immediately outside the house was so filthy in Hampshire you would not take the CS out even for a minute!

nigelonich

1,017 posts

219 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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You could open and close the drivers door a few times to exercise the pump I guess if the roads are crap.

On the brake seals my indy (says) this is a service item to at least check all pistons move by dropping the pads. One of mine was stuck a few years ago.

Scooby P1

2,616 posts

228 months

Wednesday 1st March 2017
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Not that I am about to do it....but out of interest what track day DB limit would a CS make?

105db static? But imagine the drive-by might be an issue?

355fiorano

429 posts

241 months

Wednesday 1st March 2017
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I really don't think even a 105db drive by would be enough.
Having said that, I was told by DL that if I went on their track day (which had 105db) they were sure that I would be OK.
RMA are doing 3 unsilenced at Donington this year
Ferrari are doing one on May 2nd, also at donighton
It may also be possible to get track time at this years Ferrari racing days in I think Sept

Scooby P1

2,616 posts

228 months

Wednesday 1st March 2017
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355fiorano said:
I really don't think even a 105db drive by would be enough.
Having said that, I was told by DL that if I went on their track day (which had 105db) they were sure that I would be OK.
RMA are doing 3 unsilenced at Donington this year
Ferrari are doing one on May 2nd, also at donighton
It may also be possible to get track time at this years Ferrari racing days in I think Sept
I think Goodwood are about the tightest and i'd be worried even if it passed 105db static, the drive by is probably 101db which might be optimistic. Also a pretty terrifying track to go "off" on and do some mega damage. Might just stick to the Noble.

Donnington is miles away from me so don't think i'd ever go there. But if the Ferrari day is at Silverstone that could be doable, and just for a few laps if thats the kind of thing they allow?