Looking Good For Huracan Performante,The New Benchmark
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isaldiri said:
I don't expect a mag tester to replicate a factory driver. However, what relevance does that have to the sv being way off the 918's times in every track and every mag test?.
What the ring times give us is the ultimate time set by the factory and their driver, what the mag times tell us is that mere mortals can drive a 918 supercomputer fast and sport auto test alludes to this... small learning curve, but the sv does not flatter mere mortals... times are all irrelevant in the real world anyways s, I'm just enjoying the discussion, m xxPs I'm also more consistent in my arguement, you keep moving the goalposts.... it's not ok for sv mag time to be off but ok for 918 factory time to be faster?????
Edited by 70proof on Sunday 26th February 13:08
70proof said:
Ps I'm also more consistent in my arguement, you keep moving the goalposts.... it's not ok for sv mag time to be off but ok for 918 factory time to be faster?????
Imo I'm rather more consistent than you 
My point is and has been all along that the 918 is much faster than the sv in every single test on any other track you can find, not how far off the factory times they both are. If the sv is as quick as claimed being only slightly off a 918 as Lambo have done, that's absolutely not at all seen from just any other time set anywhere else. It'll be no different for the performante but as i said, we'll see later anyway.
P.S and you're shifting the goalposts now claiming the 918 is just using electronic systems to be quick while the SV 'does not flatter the driver'...
isaldiri said:
70proof said:
Ps I'm also more consistent in my arguement, you keep moving the goalposts.... it's not ok for sv mag time to be off but ok for 918 factory time to be faster?????
Imo I'm rather more consistent than you My point is and has been all along that the 918 is much faster than the sv in every single test on any other track you can find, not how far off the factory times they both are. If the sv is as quick as claimed being only slightly off a 918 as Lambo have done, that's absolutely not at all seen from just any other time set anywhere else. It'll be no different for the performante but as i said, we'll see later anyway.
P.S and you're shifting the goalposts now claiming the 918 is just using electronic systems to be quick while the SV 'does not flatter the driver'...
isaldiri said:
Imo I'm rather more consistent than you
P.S and you're shifting the goalposts now claiming the 918 is just using electronic systems to be quick while the SV 'does not flatter the driver'...
quote from road and track at 918 launch:P.S and you're shifting the goalposts now claiming the 918 is just using electronic systems to be quick while the SV 'does not flatter the driver'...
The state of the art is holy-hell-crazy-pants-impossible fast.
The best way to illustrate the 918's speed potential is to describe what happened on the press launch. There was a Turbo S at the media drive. It was driven by Porsche test driver Timo Kluck, an affable dude with a driving resume a mile long. Each journalist got seven laps in the 918 playing chase to Kluck in the 911. And two laps in, almost all the journalists present had to lift to avoid running Kluck over.
This is not a statement about the driving talent of the average journalist. Far from it; journalists aren't known for being decent drivers. But it speaks volumes about the 918's insane thrust and eye-sucking grip.
Kluck was on the ragged hairy edge in the Turbo S, one of the fastest street cars on the planet. He was skittering over the limit and generally driving the wee out of the car. And the 918 might as well have been driven by a dead hamster for all it took to keep up.
s, my point has always been the ring time claimed by the factory is the ultimate time achievable by that package, whether you choose to believe it or not is well, your choice.....
whether joe blogs can achieve similar feats is another matter altogether, and is likely to explain why the 918's performance is more reproducible than the sv's.....
lambo's engineers don't make as good as chassis etc as McLaren/Porsche, as they have no racing heritage right, so you need a bit more race craft to extract performance out of them....
whether joe blogs can achieve similar feats is another matter altogether, and is likely to explain why the 918's performance is more reproducible than the sv's.....
lambo's engineers don't make as good as chassis etc as McLaren/Porsche, as they have no racing heritage right, so you need a bit more race craft to extract performance out of them....
70proof said:
isaldiri said:
Imo I'm rather more consistent than you
P.S and you're shifting the goalposts now claiming the 918 is just using electronic systems to be quick while the SV 'does not flatter the driver'...
quote from road and track at 918 launch:P.S and you're shifting the goalposts now claiming the 918 is just using electronic systems to be quick while the SV 'does not flatter the driver'...
The state of the art is holy-hell-crazy-pants-impossible fast.
The best way to illustrate the 918's speed potential is to describe what happened on the press launch. There was a Turbo S at the media drive. It was driven by Porsche test driver Timo Kluck, an affable dude with a driving resume a mile long. Each journalist got seven laps in the 918 playing chase to Kluck in the 911. And two laps in, almost all the journalists present had to lift to avoid running Kluck over.
This is not a statement about the driving talent of the average journalist. Far from it; journalists aren't known for being decent drivers. But it speaks volumes about the 918's insane thrust and eye-sucking grip.
Kluck was on the ragged hairy edge in the Turbo S, one of the fastest street cars on the planet. He was skittering over the limit and generally driving the wee out of the car. And the 918 might as well have been driven by a dead hamster for all it took to keep up.
RamboLambo said:
Juno said:
I am loving the Green of your Mistress,I might choose that colour for the new Performante
Wow, its even got "go faster stripes" as well. Hope they don't weigh too much, that could add 10 seconds to the lap time RamboLambo said:
Wow, its even got "go faster stripes" as well. Hope they don't weigh too much, that could add 10 seconds to the lap time
dear sir, they called it a performante, as performance gain has nothing to do with weight saving, otherwise it would be called superleggera..... hthjuno, heavy stripes are fine, heck, stick some wing shields on it too.
70proof said:
RamboLambo said:
Wow, its even got "go faster stripes" as well. Hope they don't weigh too much, that could add 10 seconds to the lap time
dear sir, they called it a performante, as performance gain has nothing to do with weight saving, otherwise it would be called superleggera..... hthjuno, heavy stripes are fine, heck, stick some wing shields on it too.
Certainly a very impressive time for a normal(ish) car - big fan of no turbos / relatively light weight concept. Not really relevant, but do wonder though how fast a 918 full production car could go - from memory Porsche said there was quite a bit more time to be gained (at least according to what I remember reading somewhere)
No question I would order this over a 488 or mclaren - and not really comparable the 812 I really want. Lucky guys who ordered it early, am sure the books will fill up quickly if not full yet. As Ring times were always a marketing spiel for fast 911s, Porsche will have a tough time - don't really see a GT2 getting close to this if there has not been a significant jump in the grip levels of tyres used
No question I would order this over a 488 or mclaren - and not really comparable the 812 I really want. Lucky guys who ordered it early, am sure the books will fill up quickly if not full yet. As Ring times were always a marketing spiel for fast 911s, Porsche will have a tough time - don't really see a GT2 getting close to this if there has not been a significant jump in the grip levels of tyres used
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