Looking Good For Huracan Performante,The New Benchmark

Looking Good For Huracan Performante,The New Benchmark

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PurpleAki

1,601 posts

87 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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All this disclosure stuff is nonsense seeing as there is a drive of the car and full explanation of the aero tech with diagrams to help explain it, in this month's Top Gear magazine.

Juno

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4,481 posts

249 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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Can't say anything specific as you know.

Car is Epic, looks great with a quality yet racy feel to the interior, a really nice place to be, sports seats are excellent and very comfortable, another leap forward!!!

I love that they have stayed with the rawness of the V10 and 4wd in a very reasonable weight package. One thing Lambo are proving for sure is it's about getting the power to the ground to make it useable. Plenty of cars out there with more BHP but it doesn't always translate to performance!

Think Lambo will do well with this car and looking forward to hitting the configuration in Geneva!

No conformation of Lap Time at he Ring but the rumours are rife and sounds like it has crushed the position by a long way yikes

Onto Geneva

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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Whats the bhp and weight ?

I've always liked the sure footedness of 4WD although the purists will say RWD all the way but for me weight is most definitely a killer. By its nature a 4WD will be heavier
Lighter cars just feel more alive and responsive and it makes a big difference to performance

70proof

6,051 posts

155 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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Feel is nowadays engineered

Unless it's sub 1000kg...

And bhp/torque without grip is nothing, so 4wd will always be faster....

Juno

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4,481 posts

249 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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BHP 640ish but nothing confirmed 100% until Geneva and once the numbers are revealed the weight at just over 1400kgs won't be an issue,hold on to your internal organs or just your organ eek

RamboLambo said:
Whats the bhp and weight ?

I've always liked the sure footedness of 4WD although the purists will say RWD all the way but for me weight is most definitely a killer. By its nature a 4WD will be heavier
Lighter cars just feel more alive and responsive and it makes a big difference to performance

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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Juno said:
Cool, that's a bigger power hike on Gallardo superleggerra and performante.

With Lambo using the performante name for the coupe ????? does that mean no lightweight spyder edition to follow ?

720Sand1299

902 posts

149 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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Juno said:
BHP 640ish but nothing confirmed 100% until Geneva and once the numbers are revealed the weight at just over 1400kgs won't be an issue,hold on to your internal organs or just your organ eek

RamboLambo said:
Whats the bhp and weight ?

I've always liked the sure footedness of 4WD although the purists will say RWD all the way but for me weight is most definitely a killer. By its nature a 4WD will be heavier
Lighter cars just feel more alive and responsive and it makes a big difference to performance
Looking forward to seeing the 720S up against this - 80kg lighter and 80hp more vs a LOAD of downforce should be an epic track battle. 2017 starting well.

Your move Maranello.

Juno

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4,481 posts

249 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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Yes Spyder to follow but the focus now on Performante name (performance ) rather than (Superleggera) lightweight, so in future Performante coupe, Performante Spyder, I will probably order the Spyder soon but its a few years away!


RamboLambo said:
Cool, that's a bigger power hike on Gallardo superleggerra and performante.

With Lambo using the performante name for the coupe ????? does that mean no lightweight spyder edition to follow ?

Juno

Original Poster:

4,481 posts

249 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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720Sand1299 said:
Juno said:
BHP 640ish but nothing confirmed 100% until Geneva and once the numbers are revealed the weight at just over 1400kgs won't be an issue,hold on to your internal organs or just your organ eek

RamboLambo said:
Whats the bhp and weight ?

I've always liked the sure footedness of 4WD although the purists will say RWD all the way but for me weight is most definitely a killer. By its nature a 4WD will be heavier
Lighter cars just feel more alive and responsive and it makes a big difference to performance
Looking forward to seeing the 720S up against this - 80kg lighter and 80hp more vs a LOAD of downforce should be an epic track battle. 2017 starting well.

Your move Maranello.
It would appear that Lambo have found something rather special in this new aero area,weight and power alone do not add up to the new rumored lap time so the bigger gains must be in the aero area but I'm no expect on aero.

Much over 600BHP can be difficult to hook up and gain traction,so its not 100% about lighter and more powerful always adds up to quicker. Just look at the GTR,weighs a Ton 550BHP but easily breaks 3 seconds to 100kms

Macca will defo be lighter and more powerful but it has a lot of work to do if it wants to go quicker around a track,its going to be interesting to see what happens?

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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Juno said:
It would appear that Lambo have found something rather special in this new aero area,weight and power alone do not add up to the new rumored lap time so the bigger gains must be in the aero area but I'm no expect on aero.

Much over 600BHP can be difficult to hook up and gain traction,so its not 100% about lighter and more powerful always adds up to quicker. Just look at the GTR,weighs a Ton 550BHP but easily breaks 3 seconds to 100kms

Macca will defo be lighter and more powerful but it has a lot of work to do if it wants to go quicker around a track,its going to be interesting to see what happens?
McLaren are kings of the aero. Would be massively surprised if with a shed load of aero, more power and less weight a new benchmark will be set before lambo can even announce it

PurpleAki

1,601 posts

87 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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RamboLambo said:
McLaren are kings of the aero.
Yeah, thought they might be...

Juno

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4,481 posts

249 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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PurpleAki said:
RamboLambo said:
McLaren are kings of the aero.
Yeah, thought they might be...
Juno produces 570kgs at 150MPH weighs 570Kgs Lol Beat that biggrin

Edited by Juno on Sunday 12th February 21:34

Juno

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4,481 posts

249 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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PurpleAki said:
RamboLambo said:
McLaren are kings of the aero.
Yeah, thought they might be...
But can they find the Ring with there Sat Nav laugh


Edited by Juno on Sunday 12th February 21:33

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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Juno said:
720Sand1299 said:
Juno said:
BHP 640ish but nothing confirmed 100% until Geneva and once the numbers are revealed the weight at just over 1400kgs won't be an issue,hold on to your internal organs or just your organ eek

RamboLambo said:
Whats the bhp and weight ?

I've always liked the sure footedness of 4WD although the purists will say RWD all the way but for me weight is most definitely a killer. By its nature a 4WD will be heavier
Lighter cars just feel more alive and responsive and it makes a big difference to performance
Looking forward to seeing the 720S up against this - 80kg lighter and 80hp more vs a LOAD of downforce should be an epic track battle. 2017 starting well.

Your move Maranello.
It would appear that Lambo have found something rather special in this new aero area,weight and power alone do not add up to the new rumored lap time so the bigger gains must be in the aero area but I'm no expect on aero.

Much over 600BHP can be difficult to hook up and gain traction,so its not 100% about lighter and more powerful always adds up to quicker. Just look at the GTR,weighs a Ton 550BHP but easily breaks 3 seconds to 100kms

Macca will defo be lighter and more powerful but it has a lot of work to do if it wants to go quicker around a track,its going to be interesting to see what happens?
The P1 had 900bhp and still couldn't break the 7min Nurb barrier. McLaren have a lot of work to do on the 720S and whatever new models are coming out next week if it wants to catch Lambo and Porsche.

Juno

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4,481 posts

249 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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Yipper said:
Juno said:
720Sand1299 said:
Juno said:
BHP 640ish but nothing confirmed 100% until Geneva and once the numbers are revealed the weight at just over 1400kgs won't be an issue,hold on to your internal organs or just your organ eek

RamboLambo said:
Whats the bhp and weight ?

I've always liked the sure footedness of 4WD although the purists will say RWD all the way but for me weight is most definitely a killer. By its nature a 4WD will be heavier
Lighter cars just feel more alive and responsive and it makes a big difference to performance
Looking forward to seeing the 720S up against this - 80kg lighter and 80hp more vs a LOAD of downforce should be an epic track battle. 2017 starting well.

Your move Maranello.
It would appear that Lambo have found something rather special in this new aero area,weight and power alone do not add up to the new rumored lap time so the bigger gains must be in the aero area but I'm no expect on aero.

Much over 600BHP can be difficult to hook up and gain traction,so its not 100% about lighter and more powerful always adds up to quicker. Just look at the GTR,weighs a Ton 550BHP but easily breaks 3 seconds to 100kms

Macca will defo be lighter and more powerful but it has a lot of work to do if it wants to go quicker around a track,its going to be interesting to see what happens?
The P1 had 900bhp and still couldn't break the 7min Nurb barrier. McLaren have a lot of work to do on the 720S and whatever new models are coming out next week if it wants to catch Lambo and Porsche.
I didn't realise that the P1 had attempted the Ring Record confused

isaldiri

18,551 posts

168 months

Sunday 12th February 2017
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70proof said:
Feel is nowadays engineered

Unless it's sub 1000kg...

And bhp/torque without grip is nothing, so 4wd will always be faster....
Disagree. there is a significant difference between a car that is ~1450 kg fully fuelled (various gt3s, Mclaren/Speciale etc) and one nearer 1600kg (R8/458/Huracan). If the articles are right the Performante drops only 40-50kg which isn't a lot vs the standard car.

4wd is faster in accelerating at low speeds I agree. apart from that it isn't always faster.

In any case I do find it quite interesting how much the supposed performance of the Performante is now being talked up vs the rest just because the manufacturer said so.... wink

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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isaldiri said:
Disagree. there is a significant difference between a car that is ~1450 kg fully fuelled (various gt3s, Mclaren/Speciale etc) and one nearer 1600kg (R8/458/Huracan). If the articles are right the Performante drops only 40-50kg which isn't a lot vs the standard car.

4wd is faster in accelerating at low speeds I agree. apart from that it isn't always faster.

In any case I do find it quite interesting how much the supposed performance of the Performante is now being talked up vs the rest just because the manufacturer said so.... wink
Proof will be in the pudding. At the moment all we have is speculation and hype.

Looking forward to the unveil

Juno

Original Poster:

4,481 posts

249 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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RamboLambo said:
isaldiri said:
Disagree. there is a significant difference between a car that is ~1450 kg fully fuelled (various gt3s, Mclaren/Speciale etc) and one nearer 1600kg (R8/458/Huracan). If the articles are right the Performante drops only 40-50kg which isn't a lot vs the standard car.

4wd is faster in accelerating at low speeds I agree. apart from that it isn't always faster.

In any case I do find it quite interesting how much the supposed performance of the Performante is now being talked up vs the rest just because the manufacturer said so.... wink
Proof will be in the pudding. At the moment all we have is speculation and hype.

Looking forward to the unveil
You may think its all speculation and Hype confused I am somewhat more confident driving

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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Juno said:
I didn't realise that the P1 had attempted the Ring Record confused
Yes, Macca refused to quote publicly the exact time (i.e. never broke the 7 min barrier). Ditto for Ferrari and the LF.

70proof

6,051 posts

155 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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