Another Gallardo buying question

[ex-devonpaul]

ghost83 said:

Yeah they’re supposedly a better drive but my wife will be driving it as well and rwd scares her tbh

I don't know whether to be impressed that she can tell the difference, or worried that she's not capable of driving a rear driven car

The again I grew up with Heralds, Cortina, Capri, Marina, MR2, Sierra, etc etc.

[ghost83]

She knows the difference and has abit of a lead foot, she drives rly well but I wouldn’t want her to come unstuck,

[madmedman]

70proof said:

hi, i'll appraise each car given i have a bit of time now....

the black car.... the pictures strongly suggest a low miles and well kept car. the seats are the biggest give away sign. if there are a stack of receipts for all repair work or servicing, then mileage should show as accurate on them, and....

ive put it through car vertical for you.... Lamborghini Gallardo
VIN NUMBER
ZHWGE11M34LA======
Generated on 2023-05-04 21:04Expires in 1 month

YOUR CAR AT A GLANCE
Mileage
No mileage fraud was disclosed by the report.

Theft
This vehicle is not wanted as stolen.

Accidents
There is no data about this vehicle being damaged.

Finance
Not recorded as having outstanding finance.

there are three bad readings with one crazy reading. i wouldnt discount this car, shame backdraft wont discuss it

Edited by 70proof on Thursday 4th May 22:07

man, absolutely legendary. Really appreciate your time and effort in helping and describing all the details to a novice like me. Much appreciated.
So far the black V10 GYR looks the best, albeit a bit expensive, but that is to be expected with all the rage about the manual gated shifters.
The dealer said they will provide an hpi and will also allow an PPI, they are slightly close to RE performance and i will see if they will allow me to take the car to them, or sort out another way. But I still have that niggly feeling that i would regret not waiting for a yellow car or an orange.

the topgear car, very good eye regarding the bolster change and the previous owner wearing a ring It looks like the car was used over the years, hence the condition. Manual with the updated engine, shorter gear ratios is also very tempting, but as someone else said, even if the engine is relatively newer, the rest of the car has still done 67k.

The 2008 e-gear car you mentioned also looks great with seats and rest of interior in good condition, consistent with the mileage. The "A" button between the sport and traction control buttons seems to have unusual wear. Did the owner use the auto mode more than they should have. So for me the next order of business is to ask about clutch wear on this car. But I am not sure I want to get an e-gear but 2008 car with updated engine, suspension and other bits do seem like a better buy. Its advertised to a bit more than it should, almost £70k and 40k miles.

Are the updated cars only 2006 onwards of 2005 as well?

Once again, i appreciate your time and help.

Edited by madmedman on Saturday 6th May 00:29

[ex-devonpaul]

madmedman said:

man, absolutely legendary. Really appreciate your time and effort in helping and describing all the details to a novice like me. Much appreciated.
So far the black V10 GYR looks the best, albeit a bit expensive, but that is to be expected with all the rage about the manual gated shifters.
The dealer said they will provide an hpi and will also allow an PPI,

Not sure about it being too pricey, especially if the service history backs up the mileage, and the fact they're happy got yu to take it to RE says a lot about their confidence in the car. Compare it to the one a year newer and £12k (after fees) more at paddleup, with 50k more on the clock and essentially a Private sale and it seems a bargain

But, if every time you walk in the garage and think "should have bought a yellow one" then it isn't for you.

[ghost83]

Could just get the sprayable ppf in any colour you want that solves the whole yellow debate

[70proof]

the changes to the pre lp car were first introduced in 2005 but in the gallardo SE versions only, a limited edition run

then the 2006 my cars onwards got them too

happy to help in your search, i got lots of help when i first bought and thus know it helps

there were some that advocated driving in sport with auto to minimise wear... maybe the owner let the car change gears as he felt it was smoother

if you think it is expensive relative to the spyders, maybe you can negiotiate on the price

Edited by 70proof on Saturday 6th May 18:05

[andrew]

70proof said:

the changes to the pre lp car were first introduced in 2005 but in the gallardo SE versions only, a limited edition run

then the 2006 my cars onwards got them too

happy to help in your search, i got lots of help when i first bought and thus know it helps

there were some that advocated driving in sport with auto to minimise wear... maybe the owner let the car change gears as he felt it was smoother

if you think it is expensive relative to the spyders, maybe you can negiotiate on the price

Edited by 70proof on Saturday 6th May 18:05

auto knackers the clutch - do NOT use it !
sport, counterintuitively, is good as snappier changes make for less clutch slip and wear

mohan !
it's been too long, what are you up to ???

[70proof]

andrew said:

auto knackers the clutch - do NOT use it !
sport, counterintuitively, is good as snappier changes make for less clutch slip and wear

mohan !
it's been too long, what are you up to ???

hello andrew, not enough with my car thats what, need to sort a proofy run to hatfield again!!

[70proof]

70proof said:

the second orange car, i assume this is the car from europe as mot's from 2015 only....

pics suggest is low mileage car, interesting its got a tape deck.....

big mot fail 2017 with ball joints gone so maybe thats why it had new arms .. shocks can leak, neighbour has a shock leak on a 765LT!!

maybe more bargaining position on this car given the sketchy history

OP, what happened to this car between 2004 and 2015, was it based in italy or uk? 7k miles in 2015 - any service history at all... maybe italian?

given your budget constriants and desire for a bright colour car, this might be a vechile you have most haggle room with if the black car is the competition...

another thought is that 2003 and 2004 cars did not have aranchio as a colour option, so has this been resprayed, or is it a factory special, may even be a MY05 car?

if you search facebook for jm imports gallardo and check out the photos, plenty there of when they worked on the car late 2018 - i think its a my05 as the headers are c/w this and the pics show old shocks covered in mud, looks like it was a rally car!

Edited by 70proof on Sunday 7th May 12:28

Edited by 70proof on Sunday 7th May 12:29

[70proof]

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php/?fbid=17337888900...

[madmedman]

70proof said:

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php/?fbid=17337888900...

Thank you again for the brilliant detective work mate.

JM imports has loads of pics and details of work done on this car. I checked and the suspension seem to be knackered and rusted and then coilovers were installed. The engine bay was really filthy with leaves, dirt in it. The wiper arm was fully rusted.

The seller told me that this car was driven from italy new but the owner who is deceased. The car then went to his brother and then changed hands a few times. Last owner was the dealer's friend. I did mention the lack of history before 2015 but I wasnt told that it was abroad. Having checked JM imports and the owner's facebook, it seems like this car spent time in France. It went back and forth between 2017 and 2019. I refuse to believe that this car has only done 15k.

Upon checking the owner's facebook, this car was badly vandalised. It was keyed on every panel. Very hard to see those pics. I wonder how it was repaired.

I think, i will keep the black car on top of my list. Would suit a 50 year old like me i guess. I will send my offer and will see what i get. I will update the thread. Thanks again.

[madmedman]

ex-devonpaul said:

Not sure about it being too pricey, especially if the service history backs up the mileage, and the fact they're happy got yu to take it to RE says a lot about their confidence in the car. Compare it to the one a year newer and £12k (after fees) more at paddleup, with 50k more on the clock and essentially a Private sale and it seems a bargain

But, if every time you walk in the garage and think "should have bought a yellow one" then it isn't for you.

Thank you. That makes a lot of sense. I think the black car is very well looked after and the dealer has been very flexible. They have reassured me that all the paperwork is consistent with mileage. I need to take some initiative and see the car in person. Hopefully will be able to organize the PPI. RE performance says they are very flexible with PPIs appointments and can get me in at a short notice.

[madmedman]

ghost83 said:

Could just get the sprayable ppf in any colour you want that solves the whole yellow debate

Oh man, I didnt know that. Is it a ppf that can be prepainted before applying? I imagine it will be a bit costly compared to normal ppf.

[70proof]

Sprayable ppf is like topaz skin, sprayed directly onto paint, peelable off

Allows change of colour

[ghost83]

70proof said:

Sprayable ppf is like topaz skin, sprayed directly onto paint, peelable off

Allows change of colour

Litchfield also do it I believe

Op there is a black spyder e gear 2008 pre lp reg mish gp on pistonheads and autotrader up at 73k on the gallardo Facebook group he’s dropped it to 65k from what he’s said it has been looked after by Lamborghini

[madmedman]

ghost83 said:

Litchfield also do it I believe

Op there is a black spyder e gear 2008 pre lp reg mish gp on pistonheads and autotrader up at 73k on the gallardo Facebook group he’s dropped it to 65k from what he’s said it has been looked after by Lamborghini

Cheers mate. I will check it out. I'm more of a fan of coupes as it gives a feeling of confinement and disconnection from the world But i will check the car out.

[madmedman]

70proof said:

Sprayable ppf is like topaz skin, sprayed directly onto paint, peelable off

Allows change of colour

Thank you. I have found a few people who do it and will get a quote. Cheers.

[ghost83]

madmedman said:

Thank you. I have found a few people who do it and will get a quote. Cheers.

Let me know how much it is if you can, also regarding prices there is a gallardo spyder on collecting cars at the minute, currently at 43k so will be interesting to see what that sells for as the market is fairly stagnant when you look at what people are trying to sell for, could it be worthwhile holding off to see if the market corrects in the short term

[madmedman]

ghost83 said:

Let me know how much it is if you can, also regarding prices there is a gallardo spyder on collecting cars at the minute, currently at 43k so will be interesting to see what that sells for as the market is fairly stagnant when you look at what people are trying to sell for, could it be worthwhile holding off to see if the market corrects in the short term

I will. Thank you. Will keep an eye on the auction. I think for now, I will watch the market as well for the next couple of months. But not sure I may pull the trigger on a very good deal.

[David_T]

I can't see the yellow spyder listed with the sold cars on Collecting Cars. Presumably it didn't meet the reserve price?

There's a 2007 UK metallic Grigio Proteus coupe, 24,000 miles, e-gear, 'supported by a comprehensive service record, mostly Lamborghini' at the Silverstone Auctions on 20th May, Guide price £62,000 - £70,000 plus buyer's premium of 15% inc VAT.
https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/2007-lamborghi...

It's not manual and it's not orange but from a quick look at the pictures looks fairly decent. It might be worth at least following to help gauge what the market interest is.