Login | Register
SearchMy Stuff
My ProfileMy PreferencesMy Mates RSS Feed
1 2 ... 4 5
7 8 ... 14 15
Reply to Topic
Author Discussion

macdeb

4,933 posts

139 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
^^^^ hehe

Grenoble

13,682 posts

39 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
Personally I really like it, mostly for the reasons that Stuart outlined. Much better than Autotrader and way ahead of the old design.

Switch

3,355 posts

59 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
miniman said:
You see, I made as much noise as the next man when the new classifieds first came out, mostly because they were riddled with bugs. But I simply can't see how the new ones look so different. For example, I want to buy an Atom:

clap

smartypants

21,672 posts

53 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
miniman said:
You see, I made as much noise as the next man when the new classifieds first came out, mostly because they were riddled with bugs. But I simply can't see how the new ones look so different. For example, I want to buy an Atom:

I think it's just what you get used to. The old one is very welcoming to just browse through. The new one isn't so much. Very unquantifiable I'm afraid smile

In a few years it won't make any difference. You're actually better of getting rid of the old classifieds entirely and just telling people to lump it. Because in time, they will. And then they will like it smile

Vixpy1

41,310 posts

148 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
Been playing the classifieds today, have to say i don't have any problems at all. Seems to work tickety boo. Submitted an ad on fri as well which was really easy.












There you go Stuart, can I have my free BTAP tickets please now

just kidding
Advertisement

Munter

25,059 posts

125 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
Vixpy1 said:
Been playing the classifieds today, have to say i don't have any problems at all. Seems to work tickety boo. Submitted an ad on fri as well which was really easy.
Me too. I like them. Power and drivetrain searches are great. I also like the search thing where if I can just type in the model name rather than scrolling through lists of manufacturers to get there.

Then it did this:



Though that's the spam banner ads suppliers doing I think. hehe

Stuart

11,585 posts

135 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
macdeb said:
OK, sorry for giving an opinion that doesn't tow the line as critiscism doesn't sit well. Best I keep quiet.


Edited by macdeb on Monday 1st October 16:08
You're not listening. I'm not saying you are wrong at all - your opinion is your own and one you're entitled to express here (without swearing at least wink ) and criticise us over. It isn't a one way street though - I'm simply listing the reasons why I don't think it's fair to say that we're just like Trader. Tell me how we are, and I'll shut up!

Stuart

11,585 posts

135 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
smartypants said:
I think it's just what you get used to. The old one is very welcoming to just browse through. The new one isn't so much. Very unquantifiable I'm afraid smile
There's a cartoon on the Oatmeal which does sum up the way in which people find the new in anything shocking initially. Now I'm really not being so presumptuous as to say that your reaction to the new site can be written off in this way at all, but it *does* tally with my own experience of changes to Facebook's design over the years. Same thing with the BBC and other sites I use very regularly.

Plus, the Oatmeal is ace and any opportunity to link to it is not to be overlooked.


birdcage

2,125 posts

89 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
Perhaps when I look at the photo's I am doing it wrong as it seems a more convoluted way of seeing them, then they show as a pop up in box with the arrow left and right, even dealers have stopped using this format because it's so untidy.


cuneus

5,776 posts

126 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
Feedback mostly constructive smile

No problems with the new functionality - it is a leap forward

The UI is a mess with all sorts of unnecessary clutter e.g. Back to top: on one page when scrolling you have none and another page you have three - can someone explain the logic ? Another example is the header letters in the left hand column.

Why is the selection UI completely different between the home page and the Classifieds tab ?

Yes pictures are bigger but they are worse due to artifacting - I have no idea how you achieved this

Suggestions to improve load time:

Don't produce thumbnails from full sized images

Why are you running a non minified JQuery UI ?

Compress the stylesheet

Does this need to be 27kb?

Same goes for icon-sprite.png and new-pointer-modal.png

Hoping not to end up in Parc ferme again


Stuart

11,585 posts

135 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
cuneus said:
Feedback mostly constructive smile

No problems with the new functionality - it is a leap forward

The UI is a mess with all sorts of unnecessary clutter e.g. Back to top: on one page when scrolling you have none and another page you have three - can someone explain the logic ? Another example is the header letters in the left hand column.

Why is the selection UI completely different between the home page and the Classifieds tab ?

Yes pictures are bigger but they are worse due to artifacting - I have no idea how you achieved this

Suggestions to improve load time:

Don't produce thumbnails from full sized images

Why are you running a non minified JQuery UI ?

Compress the stylesheet

Does this need to be 27kb?

Same goes for icon-sprite.png and new-pointer-modal.png

Hoping not to end up in Parc ferme again
Thanks for this. I'll get a tech to answer these as almost all are beyond my limited technical capabilities. I *think* we discussed the thumbnails thing as this was raised (possibly by you) elsewhere last week, and Phil seemed to think that this was an isolated issue related to a few migrated ads, but I'll ask one of them to clarify.

cuneus

5,776 posts

126 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
One more there are a few of these (wrong thumbnail)

e.g.


Stuart

11,585 posts

135 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
birdcage said:
Perhaps when I look at the photo's I am doing it wrong as it seems a more convoluted way of seeing them, then they show as a pop up in box with the arrow left and right, even dealers have stopped using this format because it's so untidy.
You can either use the arrows to navigate, or you can jump between any picture in the gallery using the filmstrip above the images. You'll also see that just clicking (or touching, on iPad) in the right hand area of the picture more generally prompts it to display the next image.

The only other thing which still needs to be done (minor job, not prioritised as highly as other things) is using cursor keys to scroll through images. A tiny thing I realise, but it slipped through.

macdeb

4,933 posts

139 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
Stuart said:
You're not listening.
rolleyescoffee

Stuart

11,585 posts

135 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
macdeb said:
rolleyescoffee
As I said earlier...

Stuart said:
Tell me how we are, and I'll shut up!
I'm all ears.

MattDell

2,844 posts

39 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
cuneus, all this is actually very helpful...

It's a bit easier to reply to these one by one in your quote.

cuneus said:
Feedback mostly constructive smile

No problems with the new functionality - it is a leap forward

The UI is a mess with all sorts of unnecessary clutter e.g. Back to top: on one page when scrolling you have none and another page you have three - can someone explain the logic ? Another example is the header letters in the left hand column.

MD - The logic for "back to top" is one per letter on each make.

Why is the selection UI completely different between the home page and the Classifieds tab ?

MD - This is because they're completely different sites using their own CSS. I'd agree it's something we should fix, but it's not an immediate concern.

Yes pictures are bigger but they are worse due to artifacting - I have no idea how you achieved this

MD - Fair comment. I do think we should review our image resizing code, though I don't agree it's any worse than the old site (and yes I've seen your image comparing the two sites).

Suggestions to improve load time:

Don't produce thumbnails from full sized images
MD - This only affects a small number of images. It was caused by some rogue data migration code and isn't possible to reproduce if you upload an ad through the new site. This will go away.

Why are you running a non minified JQuery UI ?
MD - Fair point.

Compress the stylesheet
MD - As is this

Does this need to be 27kb?
MD - And this

Same goes for icon-sprite.png and new-pointer-modal.png
MD - And this

Hoping not to end up in Parc ferme again
Excellent feedback, and I'll see if we can improve some of these over the next few weeks.

Cheers,
-Matt

macdeb

4,933 posts

139 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
Stuart said:
I'm all ears.
If only. Look bloke, I realise some time, effort and MONEY has been spent on the 'new look' and I'm sure for some it works, but for others it doesn't. I fall into the latter. For me, it doesn't work just my view, or shouldn't I have one?

Stuart

11,585 posts

135 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
macdeb said:
If only. Look bloke, I realise some time, effort and MONEY has been spent on the 'new look' and I'm sure for some it works, but for others it doesn't. I fall into the latter. For me, it doesn't work just my view, or shouldn't I have one?
That's fine, and always has been. I was just giving you the opportunity to tell me why you think it's just like all the other sites so that we can act upon your feedback.

I'll leave it there then.

macdeb

4,933 posts

139 months

[news] 
Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
OK, and I'll get back in my box.

smartypants

21,672 posts

53 months

[news] 
Tuesday 2nd October 2012 quote quote all
Stuart said:
There's a cartoon on the Oatmeal which does sum up the way in which people find the new in anything shocking initially. Now I'm really not being so presumptuous as to say that your reaction to the new site can be written off in this way at all, but it *does* tally with my own experience of changes to Facebook's design over the years. Same thing with the BBC and other sites I use very regularly.

Plus, the Oatmeal is ace and any opportunity to link to it is not to be overlooked.

biggrin

I get the point, but Facebook is a poor example. That site IS pretty much unusable for me, so much information laid out poorly that you cannot see the woods for the trees. A big change in a web or desktop application and how it's received depends on the end user. I use a lot of Microsoft products for my job, and they changed a lot of things significantly in Office and SQL Server tools etc, and it was a right pain. If you're used to doing something one way for a long period of time, and it's suddenly changed, it's like being asked to write left handed. I still hate the changes that I had been used to, because they were ill thought out, and not angled towards the heavy users, but for attracting new users as it was more "graphical", "snazzy" etc. It was form over function, even though there were many functions that were improved, the interface made it impossible to get to grips with them. It's a breath of fresh air when I return to old versions of the products on other clients servers.

This is what I always felt with the PH Classifieds, it was change to attract new users, not to help the existing ones. And just saying "you'll get used to it" doesn't always wash. If the interface is a good one, then yes, people will get used to it. But if it's not - no we won't.

I certainly don't browse the new PH classifieds like I used daily the old ones. But I am not a good example of a revenue stream, am I? smile

We'll argue this all day anyway - the changes were needed, the interface is a bit messy IMO - but in time we'll all just get on with it.
1 2 ... 4 5
7 8 ... 14 15
Reply to Topic