Policy on use of bad language and the “swear filter”

Policy on use of bad language and the “swear filter”

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Lefty

16,173 posts

203 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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I've never understood why some words are censored and some aren't:

Arse
Piss
fk

Bugger
bks
st
ste

(?)

Alex

9,975 posts

285 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Smeghead

Lefty

16,173 posts

203 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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The performance bikes forum inserts other innocuous words in place of profanities.

It's quite amusing.

"That's guy's an absolute gent" for example.

eldar

21,811 posts

197 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Voldemort said:
I still think the best solution is to give control of the censor to individual users. Those who want (or, perhaps, need in an office environment) to have rude words censored could browse with the censor turned on in their preferences and those who don't can read uncensored. One would hope that people would then stop trying to evade the swear filter. Certainly it would make the current non-offence of evading the swear filter easier to police if you ever get round to updating the rules and including such an offence.
Eminently sensible.

Except in Shorpe.

captainzep

13,305 posts

193 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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Lefty said:
The performance bikes forum inserts other innocuous words in place of profanities.

It's quite amusing.

"That's guy's an absolute gent" for example.
I've seen this on other forums.

Didn't 'Something Awful' ensure that when angry American teenagers tried to type 'the N word' it was automatically replaced with 'friend of the family'.

Getragdogleg

8,781 posts

184 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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captainzep said:
Lefty said:
The performance bikes forum inserts other innocuous words in place of profanities.

It's quite amusing.

"That's guy's an absolute gent" for example.
I've seen this on other forums.

Didn't 'Something Awful' ensure that when angry American teenagers tried to type 'the N word' it was automatically replaced with 'friend of the family'.
A forum I used to frequent automatically changed the "C" word to "Tim Westwood".

0a

23,902 posts

195 months

Thursday 20th February 2014
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Honestly, who cares that much? PH have their rules which is fine by me. I am the kind of person who neither gets that offended by seeing naked swear words, nor do I lose anything by being unable to use them.

Voldemort

6,166 posts

279 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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Bump.

And
0a said:
... PH have their rules which is fine by me...
if only this were true! PH still has no 'rules' whatsoever about swearing. No rules about 'avoiding the swear filter', and still people get punished for it. I know some people think it trivial but an underlying sense of honesty, openness, and treating people fairly and equally would not go amiss.

Instead PH gives us the ostrich treatment.

Kiltie

Original Poster:

7,504 posts

247 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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I'd just like to understand if the policy is to keep the site suitable for minors or to avoid it being blocked in the workplace.

As I've said before, it doesn't work for the former. In the following sentence ...

"He squatted down and did a massive st".

... even if a six year old wasn't in the habit of using the word, I bet most would be able to fill in the blank and guess it.

In the case of the latter, is substituting the "i" for a "1" not just the same as the censored smiley?

Yet it's frowned upon. But it's not mentioned in the posting rules.

I'd just like to understand.

eybic

9,212 posts

175 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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The reason is so that PH stays work safe and we don't get "blacklisted"

Nathan

Funk

26,303 posts

210 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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Is mumsnet blacklisted?

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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Stating the obvious but I guess apart from a town in the north east this only posts with bad language?
Works ok for everything else

eybic

9,212 posts

175 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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saaby93 said:
Stating the obvious but I guess apart from a town in the north east this only posts with bad language?
Works ok for everything else
That's correct, there are words we have selected that get the censored smiley if used.

I'm not sure if mumsnet is blacklisted but we don't want to be and frequent bad language is one thing that can get a site blacklisted.

Voldemort

6,166 posts

279 months

Friday 14th March 2014
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eybic said:
That's correct, there are words we have selected that get the censored smiley if used.
We know smile

But there is no rule that requires posters to refrain from using bad language and there is no rule to indicate that avoiding the swear filter can lead to a chat, without biscuits, in the Park Ferme.

This strikes me as unfair. The moderators are using an authority they simply do not have according to your own rules.


marshalla

15,902 posts

202 months

Friday 14th March 2014
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Voldemort said:
But there is no rule that requires posters to refrain from using bad language
No ? http://www.pistonheads.com/terms.htm ("Your conduct")

peterperkins

3,152 posts

243 months

Friday 14th March 2014
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Something my old man wrote about this topic a few years ago. RIP.

No Swearing.

Two Soldiers are sweeping the path in front of some army huts.

Private 1. Next thing I flicking knew it was out flicking brooms and the flicking runt told me to sweep the flicking path.

Private 2. Cruel Sea?

Private 1. What?

Private 2. You’re using euphemisms ain’t you? Made up words instead of obscenities the same as in the book, ‘The Cruel Sea’ by Nicholas Monserrat.

Private 1. Course I flickin’ am, runt-face. What flickin’ literary euphemisms will you be using then?


Private 2. I’m muckin’ using Mallalieu. . He muckin’ knew euphemisms if any mucker did. He could run rings round you precious muckin’ Monserrat.

Private 1. Flick off! Big ‘eaded runt, e flicking ‘wos.

Private 2. Mucking weren’t.

Private 1. Flickin’ were. Oy, I’m un-flicking-amused about this ruddy sweepin.. Them S.A.S. runts have been flickin’ rushing up and down here with shat all over their flickin’ boots.

Private 2 . S’ muckin’ A’ muckin S’ . I'll give them muckin’ ste if they come back here.'

Private 1. You and me both mate. I wouldn't mind flickin’ nutting a few of them flickin’ runts.'

A Sergeant Major appears.

Sergeant Major. Oy. Come here you ‘orrible little baskets. Oo are you fookers then? ‘Ansel and bleedin Gretel?

Private 1. We're sweeping up Sarnmajor.'

Sergeant Major. You're Oskins 'aint you. And who'se Mummy's little helper?

Private 1. Ee's Arris Sarnmajor.'

Sergeant Major. Ven-bloody-trilo-bleedin-quist are you Oskins. I asked the fookin’ organ grinder not his Fookin’ monkey.

Private 2. Arris Sarnmajor.'

Sergeant Major. Where the fook did all this fookin’ mud come from Arris?'

Private 2. Them muckin’ SAS Black muckin’ Watch Sarnmajor. Kicked their ste all over the muckin’ place. I’d like to get my hands on their muckin’ sporrans.

Sergeant Major. They'd have your fookin’ guts for garters.…..... Fook me, here comes an officer. Get on with it.

Officer. Sarnmajor!

Sergeant Major. Sa.

Officer. What the chuff are these two men doing?

Sergeant Major. Cleaning up the paths Sir.

Officer. Well let them carry on. I want to see a chuffing good job and no naffing off. And Sarnmajor.

Sergeant Major. Sa.

Officer. Keep an eye out for swearing.

Mr Trophy

6,808 posts

204 months

Friday 14th March 2014
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I actually made "management" aware that you can actually swear on this forum by "bypass" the swear filter.

I got told "not to be silly"

rolleyes

Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

183 months

Friday 14th March 2014
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eybic said:
The reason is so that PH stays work safe and we don't get "blacklisted"

Nathan
Can you explain why swearwords words aren't censored if you quote a post with a swearword in it?

It flies right in the face of having a swear filter for the benefit of workplace browsing.

Voldemort

6,166 posts

279 months

Friday 14th March 2014
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marshalla said:
Voldemort said:
But there is no rule that requires posters to refrain from using bad language
No ? http://www.pistonheads.com/terms.htm ("Your conduct")
So why is there a swear filter at all?

marshalla

15,902 posts

202 months

Friday 14th March 2014
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Voldemort said:
marshalla said:
Voldemort said:
But there is no rule that requires posters to refrain from using bad language
No ? http://www.pistonheads.com/terms.htm ("Your conduct")
So why is there a swear filter at all?
Because some (a lot of ) people don't read the terms & conditions and posting rules before they start using the forum ?