Huge list of manufacturers in the classifieds

Huge list of manufacturers in the classifieds

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MagicalTrevor

Original Poster:

6,476 posts

229 months

Saturday 27th September 2014
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Do we need this?



I appreciate you might want a list like that for people looking to sell their cars but why not filter that list for buyers so we don't have to scroll through a massive list of cars the aren't even listed on the site?

M1KEY

1,092 posts

284 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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Agree, it would be easy enough to filter out only those manufacturers for which cars are actually listed.

IMO the PH classifieds section has gone rapidly down hill. Now it doesn't really work very well on a PC/laptop, tablet or smart phone. Shame as I now find myself using Autotrader more and more when browsing as it works so much better.


RacingPete

8,872 posts

204 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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We currently have around 160 different manufacturers with listings underneath them, and as we cater for cars from the 19th century right through to modern stuff we have to be able to surface all these cars in the search.

I appreciate that not all people coming to the classifieds are looking for a Talbot or a Studebaker, but we have some of them for sale and thus some may want one.

We also allow you to save searches and be notified if the car suddenly gets advertised, so in rare categories allowing users to select these options and save a search is useful.

Appreciate that the majority of the audience aren't classic car nuts, so we will continue to monitor the usage.

MagicalTrevor

Original Poster:

6,476 posts

229 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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That's not what I'm saying.

Let's say that you have, for sale right now:

Audi - 127
BMW - 94
Talbot - 1
Mercury - 1
Messerschmitt - 0
Metropolitan - 0

Then yes, I agree that you want to appeal to classic car types as well but you don't need to display Messerschmitt and Metropolitan in the list when there aren't any. By all means display Mercury and Talbot.

And, of course, you want to display Messerschmitt and Metropolitan when somebody is trying to sell their KR200. I understand the need for a full list.

MagicalTrevor

Original Poster:

6,476 posts

229 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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Real world figures for obscure manufacturers:

Adler - 0
AJS - 0
Allard - 4
Alta - 0

You only need Allard in the list, not the others

RacingPete

8,872 posts

204 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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I do understand what you are saying...

What I am saying is we designed it so that you could search for 0 cars and save that search to get notified

"We also allow you to save searches and be notified if the car suddenly gets advertised, so in rare categories allowing users to select these options and save a search is useful."


We will constantly review this though as the number of manufacturers is bigger than when we envisioned this.

MagicalTrevor

Original Poster:

6,476 posts

229 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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Ah, I misunderstood what you wrote. Thanks for reviewing it, I wasn't having a go, just trying to give some feedback smile

Vaud

50,426 posts

155 months

Monday 29th September 2014
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RacingPete said:
I do understand what you are saying...

What I am saying is we designed it so that you could search for 0 cars and save that search to get notified

"We also allow you to save searches and be notified if the car suddenly gets advertised, so in rare categories allowing users to select these options and save a search is useful."


We will constantly review this though as the number of manufacturers is bigger than when we envisioned this.
It's still not designed around the user experience. Just because a tiny demographic might want to do theism it makes for a poor experience for the majority.

Why not have the top 20 manufacturers by volume listed first (you know this stat on a yearly rolling basis), a separator, and then the rest in alphabetical order?

RacingPete

8,872 posts

204 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Vaud said:
It's still not designed around the user experience. Just because a tiny demographic might want to do theism it makes for a poor experience for the majority.

Why not have the top 20 manufacturers by volume listed first (you know this stat on a yearly rolling basis), a separator, and then the rest in alphabetical order?
I do agree with you both that the list is now far too long and we need to look into it.

M1KEY

1,092 posts

284 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Vaud said:
It's still not designed around the user experience. Just because a tiny demographic might want to do theism it makes for a poor experience for the majority.

Why not have the top 20 manufacturers by volume listed first (you know this stat on a yearly rolling basis), a separator, and then the rest in alphabetical order?
Yep this. It's just isn't enjoyable to browse anymore & hope it can be improved.

n3il123

2,607 posts

213 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Can't you do a list but in two parts so something like

a-z where cars for sale > 0 union a-z where cars for sale = 0

so if you are looking for an obscure make you can just scroll past the list of makes where there are actual cars for sale which 99.99% of people actually want?


maffski

1,868 posts

159 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Why not put common makes at the top, then a full listing under it? Be fairly simple to do.

---Edit---
Oops, just noticed Vaud already suggested this. So, er, +1. Nothing to see here. getmecoat


Edited by maffski on Thursday 2nd October 14:14