No copy pasting from newspapers
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I've been contacted by legal people demanding that copy and pastes are deleted. Links are fine but copy and pastes do breach the relevant Newspaper's copyright.
Ref photo's I would guess that providing the watermark remains then there is no issue but I'm sure I'll be contacted if this isn't the case.
Nathan
Ref photo's I would guess that providing the watermark remains then there is no issue but I'm sure I'll be contacted if this isn't the case.
Nathan
Edited by eybic on Thursday 29th January 11:52
some clever news sites manage to change all copy-and-pasted stuff into a link
see below, I just copied and pasted the text from the first Daily Mail article, it automatically adds the 'read more' bit:
Britain will be hit by a week of snow and freezing temperatures, as the country shivers in cold blasts from Greenland and Iceland today.
The North will be worst hit with ‘thundersnow’ storms striking - while snowfalls of up to 6in (15cm) are predicted by forecasters tonight.
The Met Office has a yellow 'be aware' weather warning in place for snow and ice in almost all of Britain - excluding south-west England - today.
Snow depths already recorded in the north of England include 4in (10cm) in Cumbria, 2in (5cm) in Northumberland and 1.2in (3cm) in West Yorkshire.
But the deepest snow fell in Scotland and Northern Ireland, with 9in (23cm) at Tulloch Bridge, Inverness-shire, and 8in (21cm) at Glenanne in Armagh.
Transport chaos saw, among other issues, trains between Manchester and York cancelled and main roads in County Durham and Yorkshire closed.
Snow could even hit as far south as Greater London - while there were 180 gritters out on the roads in Scotland, which has seen isolated power cuts.
Mobile phone operator EE advised customers of a loss of coverage in Ayrshire, West Yorkshire and Tyne and Wear due to the adverse weather.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2931083/Sn...
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so is that kinda thing not allowed? (delete it, if so)
see below, I just copied and pasted the text from the first Daily Mail article, it automatically adds the 'read more' bit:
Britain will be hit by a week of snow and freezing temperatures, as the country shivers in cold blasts from Greenland and Iceland today.
The North will be worst hit with ‘thundersnow’ storms striking - while snowfalls of up to 6in (15cm) are predicted by forecasters tonight.
The Met Office has a yellow 'be aware' weather warning in place for snow and ice in almost all of Britain - excluding south-west England - today.
Snow depths already recorded in the north of England include 4in (10cm) in Cumbria, 2in (5cm) in Northumberland and 1.2in (3cm) in West Yorkshire.
But the deepest snow fell in Scotland and Northern Ireland, with 9in (23cm) at Tulloch Bridge, Inverness-shire, and 8in (21cm) at Glenanne in Armagh.
Transport chaos saw, among other issues, trains between Manchester and York cancelled and main roads in County Durham and Yorkshire closed.
Snow could even hit as far south as Greater London - while there were 180 gritters out on the roads in Scotland, which has seen isolated power cuts.
Mobile phone operator EE advised customers of a loss of coverage in Ayrshire, West Yorkshire and Tyne and Wear due to the adverse weather.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2931083/Sn...
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
so is that kinda thing not allowed? (delete it, if so)
I would think that's ok Hugo.
This is a quote from one of their emails to me:
..."We also request that you inform/remind your members that the use of copyright material is not authorised without explicit permission from the copyright owner and offer the alternative that they may use a hyperlink for the article credited to the relevant copyright owner..."
This is a quote from one of their emails to me:
..."We also request that you inform/remind your members that the use of copyright material is not authorised without explicit permission from the copyright owner and offer the alternative that they may use a hyperlink for the article credited to the relevant copyright owner..."
eybic said:
I would think that's ok Hugo.
This is a quote from one of their emails to me:
..."We also request that you inform/remind your members that the use of copyright material is not authorised without explicit permission from the copyright owner and offer the alternative that they may use a hyperlink for the article credited to the relevant copyright owner..."
They can quote what they like, but it doesn't alter the fact that copyright law allows for "fair use" quoting, including for reporting on published news articles.This is a quote from one of their emails to me:
..."We also request that you inform/remind your members that the use of copyright material is not authorised without explicit permission from the copyright owner and offer the alternative that they may use a hyperlink for the article credited to the relevant copyright owner..."
http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p09_fa...
https://www.gov.uk/exceptions-to-copyright#critici...
<mutters>...of course, newspapers are SO scrupulous in respecting the copyright of others...
Oakey said:
Can you tell us which paper we haven't been linking back to? Clearly not the Daily Mail as I'm sure we account for at least 85% of their traffic.
Purely based on another forum I use getting some aggro for the same thing I would guess The Times. They are very protective of their paywalls and dislike people who do have a subscription C&P the content onto forums where thousands of others can read it for freeShould add I dont know its them for sure, just that the other forum had similar contact and it was them in that instance (trying not to get Eybic in trouble here
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We had a seminar on image use in publishing pretty recently... slightly tangent to the question, but thought would be of interest.
Q5. Someone famous has tweeted a selfie. Can you publish it?
Probably. Technically it's a breach of copyright, because the selfie taker has the copyright. By posting it on Twitter, they have agreed that other people can retweet it – but no permission has been given to other publishers. You could use it under fair dealing if you are critiquing it. And practically speaking, using the selfie is unlikely to result in a claim, or be a high-value claim.
Q6. Someone has tweeted a photo of a plane crash. Can you use it under fair dealing, because you are reporting current events?
No, you can’t use it. Fair-dealing never applies to photos used to cover current events.
Q5. Someone famous has tweeted a selfie. Can you publish it?
Probably. Technically it's a breach of copyright, because the selfie taker has the copyright. By posting it on Twitter, they have agreed that other people can retweet it – but no permission has been given to other publishers. You could use it under fair dealing if you are critiquing it. And practically speaking, using the selfie is unlikely to result in a claim, or be a high-value claim.
Q6. Someone has tweeted a photo of a plane crash. Can you use it under fair dealing, because you are reporting current events?
No, you can’t use it. Fair-dealing never applies to photos used to cover current events.
TooMany2cvs said:
They can quote what they like, but it doesn't alter the fact that copyright law allows for "fair use" quoting, including for reporting on published news articles.
http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p09_fa...
https://www.gov.uk/exceptions-to-copyright#critici...
<mutters>...of course, newspapers are SO scrupulous in respecting the copyright of others...
I thought most of their content these days was cut and paste stuff from Facebook and Twitter. Or handouts from "Celeb" PR machines.http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p09_fa...
https://www.gov.uk/exceptions-to-copyright#critici...
<mutters>...of course, newspapers are SO scrupulous in respecting the copyright of others...
This article may go some way towards explaining the concerns of the legacy media.
http://www.themediabriefing.com/article/newspaper-...
Just seen this one. Didn't realise this was the case. I've always worked on the idea of posting the link + the content, or copying the relevant piece, so that I didn't misquote, or couldn't (as in the case of an increasing number of PH posters ) be accused of misquoting. Or if the subject of the article forced the paper to withdraw the article ( say tax man sends widow on benefits tax bill for £5m ,HMRC mightn't like this kickup coming to light), or in the case of a recurring story ,which might be worth repeating to place the article in the vaults of PH ,to be accessible for a longer time than in the paper .
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