Issues with new Login System - Add them here

Issues with new Login System - Add them here

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RacingPete

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205 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Podie said:
Oakey said:
I'm not about to read 11 pages but why do I randomly have to keep logging back in?
Update. Something not quite right. They're looking at a fix.
The jiffle king said:
I also keep having to log back in every time on all devices as I am not remembered
I have tried to explain here, along with the fix we are putting in place
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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PoleDriver said:
Is it not possible to set up a system with limited access for beta testing? I'm sure there will be a good take-up from members here to run with it for a while.
You could then ensure that it gets tested on all types of machine with all types of software driven by a cross-section of skill levels!
This change was fundamental to our underlying data structure so was slightly different to a change where we can beta it to a select few, as we do have a beta test forum for this sort of thing. We welcome anyone new who wants to join it - just PM me.

Though saying that, we have been working on having a better testing environment approach for users that we will roll out shortly - it just wasn't ready for the commercial pressures of this release.

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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The team are looking at that - it is being exposed by something deep in the system not being caught.

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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Megaflow said:
Thanks for the offer, but I am not an IT professional, so I can't help. But, it is nice to see one or two make take you up on the offer.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but if you are testing these updates behind the sences before release then I think you need to look at your testing processes, because they plainly do not reflect the real world.
Like most of the IT professionals responding will know, that most of the challenges with these types of things are not technical but business pressures and costs - if we had all the time and resource in the world these things would never happen... so I keep the offer open so you can understand what is actually behind the scenes.

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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tomjol said:
RacingPete said:
This change was fundamental to our underlying data structure so was slightly different to a change where we can beta it to a select few, as we do have a beta test forum for this sort of thing. We welcome anyone new who wants to join it - just PM me.

Though saying that, we have been working on having a better testing environment approach for users that we will roll out shortly - it just wasn't ready for the commercial pressures of this release.
I was wondering when that was going to sneak out wink

Pete, you have my sympathies. Been there, many times. I have to say it seems particularly unwise for a system like this one to have commercial pressures override user experience. If there is some positivity to be found, perhaps our collective grumbling can form a stick you can use to beat whoever pushed this into going live before it was ready.
There are always commercial pressures for everything and thus a judgement call needs to be made... It's all a numbers game really.

The better testing environment would not have solved some of the issues with this launch, it is just a better way to run multiple environments with real world data exposed to a public audience - (the data etc already existed in a testing environment), which was the point I was referring to of being too late to use for this project. The challenge of technical improvements vs business and commercial product features is a battle that has always been fought.

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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OzzyR1 said:
Podie said:
OzzyR1 said:
It's not letting me log in at all on my desktop PC, just hangs on the screen with the P1 as the background.
Likewise with IE. Chrome working though.
Yup, in on Chrome now but IE still not working.
What version of IE are you using?

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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OzzyR1 said:
IE 9

Update 9.0.34

Not my choice, am at work.
Investigating now

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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MGJohn said:
FOUR Times today and more time previously I've seen the following after composing a thread response and pressing the submit button. Twice I lost a lengthy post ... frown

PistonHeads

Sorry, something's not quite right.

The technical team have been notified.
We are in final stages of testing the fix for this.

I know this isn't a solution, but as a workaround, just before you post if you go to My Stuff in a separate window and then post it will work till we get the fix out.

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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MGJohn said:
That's precisely what I did... thumbup

Not bad for a silver surfer... who incidentally, was trained as a computer systems analyst back in the middle ages. Well, the 1970s.... hehe Now where's my punch cards.

What's mainframe number cruncher Dad?
1970s??? Parts of the forums still use punch cards! smile

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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Diablos-666 said:
Can't log on via Internet Explorer or via the iPhone but I can via Chrome.
We are still investigating the IE9 issue - it works on all our native test systems here??

What actually happens when you click login and fill in all the details?

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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MGJohn said:
Yeah, but is it steam powered .. wink
Steam?? It is well known we have hamsters in wheels running it!

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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probedb said:
Yep, everytime I hit the site I'm not logged in, until I click login which then logs me in without asking for any input.

Again, even in the short term, using vBulletin or something similar would have been cheaper than building it in-house yourselves. It really does put me off using the site.

Another major problem you have is the fact that it doesn't record read topics per user, but per machine. So if I read articles at work, logging in at home still shows them as unread. No other forum I've used does this and it's incredibly annoying.
Explanation of login and the fixes here - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

The forums was started and built before vBulletin, migrating 40 million posts is a big decision to make if moving forum software.

The last point I concede - the whole last read part of the system needs an overhaul and has not been touched in around 9 or so years.... before multi devices became popular.

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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JuanGandini said:
When I click on "What's new" I see the following:



So I have to select 'show all forums' to get any "What's new" content.

Quite annoying really as a lot of the 'show all forums' content is not very interesting to me - political drivel about Farage, bike banter, geographically regional stuff etc.

Meh!
We have just put out a fix for this - let us know how it goes.

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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Morningside said:
HELP! I have lost "The Lounge". Even showing all it does not appear. And all my favourites preferences are mucked up.
I wonder if you have been migrated correctly, did you have a classifieds account with a different email address?

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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DaveShift6 said:
I think it's the "^" that's cause the error...

I've had "Logged in as Dave%5E | Logout" in the top right since the last improvement.
Sorry, the high hat is the issue as it is a reserved character in our new system. If you are happy with the username you have chosen here then I can realign all your history.

Let me know.

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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marshalla said:
I'm just going to leave this here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caret and wait for my login to be disabled completely.
... as someone equally pedantic about grammar and calling this correctly I am actually going to disable my own in shame getmecoat

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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Debaser said:
Not sure if this has already been mentioned but on my iPad, the beta 2 skin changes to what looks like the mobile phone view when I 'pinch' the screen (to show all open windows) or zoom in. It didn't used to do this with PH classic.
It is a responsive skin, which means it responds to the size of the screen width. iPad in portrait gets mobile, in landscape desktop IIRC

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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Morningside said:
RacingPete said:
Morningside said:
HELP! I have lost "The Lounge". Even showing all it does not appear. And all my favourites preferences are mucked up.
I wonder if you have been migrated correctly, did you have a classifieds account with a different email address?
No. I *think* I used the same. confused
Will nip in the back end and have a look before QT comes on and annoys me too much.

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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eharding said:
Why is QT going to annoy you - is Dimbleby going to insist that the panel members login every time they want to say something?

Edited: Chin up, it could be worse!
It is usually idiotic questions from the audience, but we digress off topic...

Though I am always chipper smile

RacingPete

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Thursday 14th May 2015
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Morningside said:
RacingPete said:
Morningside said:
HELP! I have lost "The Lounge". Even showing all it does not appear. And all my favourites preferences are mucked up.
I wonder if you have been migrated correctly, did you have a classifieds account with a different email address?
No. I *think* I used the same. confused
Hmmm... all looks fine to me - just to check, in your browser URL bar do you have h=0 in the address for PistonHeads?