Adblock or Similar to brouse PH

Adblock or Similar to brouse PH

Poll: Adblock or Similar to brouse PH

Total Members Polled: 490

Yes: 82%
Not yet but I'm considering it: 10%
No: 3%
Never: 1%
MX5: 3%
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Pie-n-Peys

172 posts

119 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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I use ad block on every website. Works brilliantly on youtube too.

poing

8,743 posts

201 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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4x4Tyke said:
Alternatively, I could be an expert with a computer science degree and 20 years of experience in internet software development who knows how to keep the multiple browsers on multiple computers at work and home free from malware.

The 81% poll result is a self selecting sample and I hear exactly the same things said by family & friends when they want me to 'fix' their computers and in most cases the primary problem is browser hijacking for the purposes of click fraud.

You can read more about it at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_hijacking

The two most common complaints are search redirection and full page adverts and you can read about some of the other defining characteristics at https://www.malwarebytes.org/pup/
I don't need need to read about it thanks, certainly not from wiki or malwarebytes, I keep my company network secure just fine. Check out the website feedback section and see how many threads there are about the PH adverts, it's not malware it's just a terrible advertising model.

rich888

2,610 posts

200 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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On my Mac I use AdBlock + Ghostery to banish those pesky and very ANNOYING adverts.

On my iPad I switch off Javascript which kills most ads dead and speeds up webpage load time quite substantially, if the website requires Javascript it's easy enough to switch it back on again and reload the page. iPad > Settings > Safari > Advanced > Javascript ON/OFF.

Huff

3,160 posts

192 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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noscript does the same thing slectively on mac meanwhile.

If all you want to do is read for information then Adblock or equiv is simply essential to making the bloody web usable these days. For all those marketeers and businesses claiming blockers are killing them - well you dumped all over 'our' bandwidth & goodwill first, screw you.

Funk

26,301 posts

210 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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Browsing on my Samsung Tab S was a horrendous experience - the 8.4" screen is big enough that sites supply the desktop version rather than mobile, along with all the crap that comes with it such as ads, videos, audio... It was borderline unusable until I rooted it and installed an adblocker. Yep, I tripped the KNOX switch in order to be able to use it properly.

My HTC One M8 isn't quite so bad as it picks up the mobile versions of sites which tend, on the whole, to carry fewer adverts (or certainly not as data/performance-intensive as desktop sites). That said, it does piss me off when sites on my phone load video ads - I'm not paying for bandwidth for them to advertise to me, that's just fking rude.

My next phone will be a Nexus 6P and that's getting rooted day one.

NuisanceFactor

289 posts

185 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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darrenw said:
I'm currently making a Pi-Hole for the house, so I won't need to run ad blocking software on each device: http://pi-hole.net/
Just done that using a Pi model B - thank you very much; works a treat.

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Pie-n-Peys said:
I use ad block on every website. Works brilliantly on youtube too.
I went to someone's house who didn't have an ad blocker installed. Youtube is fking awful with ads.

Goaty Bill 2

3,416 posts

120 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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treetops said:
Display advertising is a total waste of money I don't know why companies bother. Google Bob Hoffman and you'll read why.
While I agree that for most of us, the actual adverts are a waste of everyone's time, except Haymarket.
They will be gaining revenue for each of the ads. Each 'hit' is a tiny amount of money, but it adds up.

This will obviously be old news to some here but;

When you join the site, there is an (almost) instant auction amongst numerous brands for your ad space, based principally upon your cookie data.
This takes less than a second most of the time so you don't even know[edit] notice it's happening.

This is becoming quite clever.
For example; you purchased a new mobile online last week.
This week, your 'space' is up for auction, so they see the cookie data confirming you already bought a phone from them, so they bid low. If they win the auction, then they show you phone insurance or accessories, instead of phones. Showing you phones would more likely annoy you rather than induce you to click.

So the website owners have contracts with the companies that hold the auctions.
Everyone makes a bit, and everyone (except us), is happy.

I guess Haymarket has to make it's money somehow.


Edited by Goaty Bill 2 on Sunday 13th December 00:21

rich888

2,610 posts

200 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Goaty Bill 2 said:
treetops said:
Display advertising is a total waste of money I don't know why companies bother. Google Bob Hoffman and you'll read why.
While I agree that for most of us, the actual adverts are a waste of everyone's time, except Haymarket.
They will be gaining revenue for each of the ads. Each 'hit' is a tiny amount of money, but it adds up.

This will obviously be old news to some here but;

When you join the site, there is an (almost) instant auction amongst numerous brands for your ad space, based principally upon your cookie data.
This takes less than a second most of the time so you don't even know it's happening.

This is becoming quite clever.
For example; you purchased a new mobile online last week.
This week, your 'space' is up for auction, so they see the cookie data confirming you already bought a phone from them, so they bid low. If they win the auction, then they show you phone insurance or accessories, instead of phones. Showing you phones would more likely annoy you rather than induce you to click.

So the website owners have contracts with the companies that hold the auctions.
Everyone makes a bit, and everyone (except us), is happy.

I guess Haymarket has to make it's money somehow.
Turning this around, is there any way to provide them with lots of juicy cookie data they crave for, it's not like it will be fake data because we didn't sign up to provide them with accurate data wink

Brilad

595 posts

190 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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I don't mind banners

I don't like those that run down the side and follow your scrolling (have not seen any of those on here though) and I hate the ones that make sounds.

I use adblock at home but can't put it on my browser at work - as another poster said it is the long loading times for the pages which is most irritating. I don't use PH when at home.

But it's a business and has to pay it's way somehow. I enjoy the forums so I don't block the ads.

B.

9patch

2,860 posts

190 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Another uBlock Origin here.

Adblock Plus org on IE and there is one coming for Edge soon.

Megaflow

9,444 posts

226 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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darrenw said:
Every now and then when I try PH on a new machine/device I remember just how bad it is without an adblocker. I don't know how people use the web without one.

I'm currently making a Pi-Hole for the house, so I won't need to run ad blocking software on each device: http://pi-hole.net/
Ooo, I like that idea!

skeggysteve

5,724 posts

218 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Well I've just installed uBlock Origin (thanks for the link) simply because of the very slow page load times due to the adverts.

Like others I understand why PH has adverts but when they affect the load times so badly surely they are counter productive?

Edited by skeggysteve on Sunday 13th December 18:53

Dave.

7,382 posts

254 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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I used Pi-Hole at my old house with a Virgin SuperHub.

I'm with BT now, using a HomeHub 4, which doesn't allow you to change the settings required for the Pi-Hole to work... boo!!

Really should buy a new Modem/Router for it, so convenient once it's setup.

Pints

18,444 posts

195 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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skeggysteve said:
Well I've just installed uBlock Origin (thanks for the link) simply because of the very slow page load times due to the adverts.

Like other I understand why PH has adverts but when they affect the load times so badly surely they are counter productive?
+1
Much better and quicker than AdBlock.

evil len

4,398 posts

270 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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I've just installed Adblock as a result of this thread smile

Funk

26,301 posts

210 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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evil len said:
I've just installed Adblock as a result of this thread smile
Uninstall it and swap to ublock origin.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-o...

whoami

13,151 posts

241 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Funk said:
evil len said:
I've just installed Adblock as a result of this thread smile
Uninstall it and swap to ublock origin.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-o...
Does it work well with the standard installation settings or would you recommend tweaking it?

Funk

26,301 posts

210 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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whoami said:
Funk said:
evil len said:
I've just installed Adblock as a result of this thread smile
Uninstall it and swap to ublock origin.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-o...
Does it work well with the standard installation settings or would you recommend tweaking it?
Works really well out of the box but even loading up more lists doesn't get it to the memory usage of Adblock. If anything it's also less hassle than Adblock+Ghostery was.

I also run PrivacyBadger too: https://www.eff.org/privacybadger

Edited by Funk on Sunday 13th December 23:31

PanzerCommander

5,026 posts

219 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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I run AdBlock, its also installed on my parents laptop. I get sick to death of having to deal adverts and pop ups that 99% of the time I am not interested in.