When and how is the "don't be annoying" rule going to work?

When and how is the "don't be annoying" rule going to work?

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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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There is a small minority of posters in NPE who consistently behave like disruptive children. Sniping, snide, argumentative with the giveaway trademark of never contributing anything of substance to the discussion.

They are definitely annoying. But it takes reading a series of posts by them to spot it, so reporting a single post is a bit pointless.

How are the mods going to judge "annoying"?

Big Al.

68,853 posts

258 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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Probably by the number of reports coming from different members on the same poster.

Tom Logan

3,215 posts

125 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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Big Al. said:
Probably by the number of reports coming from different members on the same poster.
So that'll be carte blanche for the Chew The Fat tag team to report any posters with whom they disagree.



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0a

23,901 posts

194 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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It must be like ruling over a bunch of children at times. I am sure that it will be fairly obvious and suitable warnings are given. Unfortunately they were unable to put "don't be a dhead" in the official rules smile

spookly

4,019 posts

95 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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I nominate this thread for adding nothing and sniping at other posters :-)

zarjaz1991

3,480 posts

123 months

Sunday 19th February 2017
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I have never not been annoying in my entire life, I've certainly no intention of starting now....

B'stard Child

28,397 posts

246 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Greg66 said:
There is a small minority of posters in NPE who consistently behave like disruptive children. Sniping, snide, argumentative with the giveaway trademark of never contributing anything of substance to the discussion.

They are definitely annoying. But it takes reading a series of posts by them to spot it, so reporting a single post is a bit pointless.

How are the mods going to judge "annoying"?
To add some balance and a different perspective - I find your constant bickering with other posters in that thread annoying...... biggrin


Tankrizzo

7,269 posts

193 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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I'm sorry, this just reads like "I want people banned with whom I don't agree".

To be fair Greg you give out just as much in those threads.

We have to be careful not to start reporting people just because we don't like what they're saying.

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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There are sections of PH into which I rarely venture because the constant bickering is tiresome or the humour is juvenile but there are also the more serious areas, 'Health Matters' or 'Speed, Plod & the Law' for example, which (unfortunately) are now being increasingly populated by facile, unhelpful, ill informed or contrary replies seemingly just to boost post counts or argue for the sake of it.

It's a sad sign of the times that there are people who enjoy irritating others from behind the protection of the internet and I will, I suppose, just have to 'suck it up'.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Tankrizzo said:
I'm sorry, this just reads like "I want people banned with whom I don't agree".

To be fair Greg you give out just as much in those threads.

We have to be careful not to start reporting people just because we don't like what they're saying.
Do I?

This is the gripe underlying my question:
Greg66 said:
There is a small minority of posters in NPE who consistently behave like disruptive children. Sniping, snide, argumentative with the giveaway trademark of never contributing anything of substance to the discussion.
If you genuinely think that's an accurate characterisation of how I post, I'm am equally genuinely sorry, and perhaps I need to have a closer look at how my posts read.

I am guilty of sniping and slagging people off from time to time, I accept. But from my pov I do try not to do that unless it is a last resort - start a talking point, someone comes in with a post which adds a little dig, unravel the point they make and they shift their ground (another dig), repeat, until they have nothing left but are simply arguing the contrary because they won't back down. By this point the insults are often flying thick and fast, and yes, I often don't/can't avoid getting stuck into that sort of spat.

But my point is targetted differently: it's the people who very rarely/never contribute to the discussion, but instead only offer up the sniping.

It's not at all that I want to shut up people I disagree with; on the contrary (perhaps despite appearances) I have a real interest in what others think and more importantly why they think it (it's that enquiry - the why - that often gets to "no real/good/logical/rational reason now just fk off you libtard" or similar, IME).

What I would like to shut up though is the "noise" so that the "signal" can be more clearly heard, if you see what I mean.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Is this the fight thread...?smile

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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I rest my case...

MagicalTrevor

6,476 posts

229 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Didn't seem worth starting a new thread but I wonder if we'll all have to agree to new posting rules each time they change?

Rules 18 & 20 say
18. Do not choose a username which is the same as a company, website or trading name. Should you wish to sponsor your req'd username you will need to contact James Drake through info@pistonheads.com.
20. You may not promote charity events; recruit for charitable donations, surveys or petitions; or seek votes for competitions without prior permission. Nor may you promote events without seeking prior approval from James Drake through info@pistonheads.com.

If JD leaves then the rules will technically change and won't be what everyone has agreed to.

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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James Drake could be just a code name used for someone who fulfils a particular role.

Vaud

50,482 posts

155 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Riley Blue said:
James Drake could be just a code name used for someone who fulfils a particular role.
He's a real person.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Don't call him duck. I did, but I think I got away with it.

Riley Blue

20,955 posts

226 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Vaud said:
Riley Blue said:
James Drake could be just a code name used for someone who fulfils a particular role.
He's a real person.
I suspected he was but I did write 'could'. It's not uncommon for companies or govenment departments to use ficticious names in correspondence with the public.

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Riley Blue said:
I suspected he was but I did write 'could'. It's not uncommon for companies or govenment departments to use ficticious names in correspondence with the public.
\you mean like the hamsters in tech support?


Myles Peraua

19,582 posts

203 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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I was going to post about this too. The real problem area (IMO) is the posts which go like this:

poster2 said:
poster1 said:
poster2 said:
poster1 said:
poster2 said:
poster1 said:
You're stupid.
No, you're stupid.
But you're stupider.
I'm not as stupid as you
Derrr, please show my where I was stupid?
My Dad's bigger than your Dad
ad nauseam

If these sort of things kick off, can the posters involved just be banned from the thread. Instantly? There are some things on here I would genuinely like to read about (Trump, cyclists, etc) but it's just not worth wading through the dross to find the relevant posts.

As above, obviously there is the potential for it to be a charter for people just to point fingers but it shouldn't be difficult to identify a multi-nested quote and dig the key offenders out of it and chuck them out?

Caveat: of course I have bitten in the past when I've disagreed with something someone has said; who hasn't, and that's what debate is all about, but it's the ones which go on and on and on for pages, like the example above, which would be the low-hanging fruit for overall improvement of the PH experience.

zarjaz1991

3,480 posts

123 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Myles Peraua said:
ad nauseam

If these sort of things kick off, can the posters involved just be banned from the thread. Instantly? There are some things on here I would genuinely like to read about (Trump, cyclists, etc) but it's just not worth wading through the dross to find the relevant posts.

As above, obviously there is the potential for it to be a charter for people just to point fingers but it shouldn't be difficult to identify a multi-nested quote and dig the key offenders out of it and chuck them out?

Caveat: of course I have bitten in the past when I've disagreed with something someone has said; who hasn't, and that's what debate is all about, but it's the ones which go on and on and on for pages, like the example above, which would be the low-hanging fruit for overall improvement of the PH experience.
Who's to decide what's "dross"?

Far too often on here, simply disagreeing with someone gets you branded a "troll". There are too many people who cannot handle others disagreeing with them, and they don't see it as unreasonable to try and have those people banned.