Audi branded Mann and a Mann filter from ECP

Audi branded Mann and a Mann filter from ECP

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KungFuPanda

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4,324 posts

169 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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So, this will probably be an argument which rages until the end of time. Will the two filters (oil) be the same or will the one from ECP be manufactured to a lower quality control level hence the lower cost?

GroundEffect

13,819 posts

155 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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It depends if it's actually a Mann filter or just branded as such.

If it's actually a Mann part, manufactured on the same line, I just don't see it being worth the effort to create complexity in part design.


Rich_W

12,548 posts

211 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Whats the price difference?

£2? £3?

Seems like a false economy to me. When I service my car, the parts come from BMW. Easier cause I can go in, and get all the parts in 1 visit. The Oil comes from wherever is cheapest at the time.

Or you can spend half an hour weighing up to get the oil filter and sump ring from ECP. The air filter from eBay and the spark plugs from Halfords. Then wait a few days whilst GSF get the pollen filter as they're out of stock laugh

thebraketester

14,192 posts

137 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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I've been using Mann filters in my GTI for the last 2/3. Comparing the OEM filter and Mann ones I am 99.9999999% sure they are the same and made in the same factory.

thebraketester

14,192 posts

137 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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JM

3,170 posts

205 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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KungFuPanda said:
So, this will probably be an argument which rages until the end of time. Will the two filters (oil) be the same or will the one from ECP be manufactured to a lower quality control level hence the lower cost?
Get the exact same part (and part number) as the ECP one for less from carparts4less.



Cupramax

10,469 posts

251 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Cant comment on oil filters but I bought a replacement Mann pollen filter from ECP this week and it turns out to be identical to the one fitted, same Mann part number, just doesnt have the Audi logo and their pt no.

jamoor

14,506 posts

214 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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I replaced a TRW boxed suspension arm on my BMW the other day.


nickfrog

20,872 posts

216 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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Even the TRW boxed M arms have the M logo grinded off so they must be more expensive to make !

jamoor

14,506 posts

214 months

Saturday 25th February 2017
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nickfrog said:
Even the TRW boxed M arms have the M logo grinded off so they must be more expensive to make !
Oh that was on an M3 too.

MrBig

2,638 posts

128 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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KungFuPanda said:
So, this will probably be an argument which rages until the end of time. Will the two filters (oil) be the same or will the one from ECP be manufactured to a lower quality control level hence the lower cost?
There's no argument in this particular case. The Mann filter will be the same part as the Audi branded part.

jamoor

14,506 posts

214 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Rich_W said:
Whats the price difference?

£2? £3?

Seems like a false economy to me. When I service my car, the parts come from BMW. Easier cause I can go in, and get all the parts in 1 visit. The Oil comes from wherever is cheapest at the time.

Or you can spend half an hour weighing up to get the oil filter and sump ring from ECP. The air filter from eBay and the spark plugs from Halfords. Then wait a few days whilst GSF get the pollen filter as they're out of stock laugh
Or just get them from Amazon delivered.

KungFuPanda

Original Poster:

4,324 posts

169 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Rich_W said:
Whats the price difference?

£2? £3?

Seems like a false economy to me. When I service my car, the parts come from BMW. Easier cause I can go in, and get all the parts in 1 visit. The Oil comes from wherever is cheapest at the time.

Or you can spend half an hour weighing up to get the oil filter and sump ring from ECP. The air filter from eBay and the spark plugs from Halfords. Then wait a few days whilst GSF get the pollen filter as they're out of stock laugh
For my A8 its either £26 for a genuine Audi one or £6 for a MANN one from ECP so a sizeable difference. I only asked because I got a genuine one from Audi for my last service and it had MANN printed on the end of it.

wemorgan

3,578 posts

177 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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AFAIK car manufacturers don't make their own filters. Their logo is just printed for branding / marketing purposes. They'll use a range of different suppliers, quite possibly changing over the duration of the vehicle's manufacturer. Just stick to the main brands and you'll be ok.

To the person who thinks buyers are waiting ages in ECP, then Halfords etc, most places offer free delivery or click and collect. It could hardly be quicker.

PositronicRay

26,957 posts

182 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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A trip to the main dealers takes most of my morning out.

1.5hr round trip, (min) 1/2 an hour in the dealer while parts bloke fannys about/picks his spots/gooses the receptionist or whatever they do whilst they should be serving customers.

And that's if you can find a parking spot.

Free delivery from ECP every time for me.


Rick101

6,959 posts

149 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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I have never waited for parts longer than in a main dealer.
Even for a simple thing like an air filter or a touch up pen you can be stood there 15 or 20 minutes.
I can only imagine they have a secret entrance to the magical world of Narnia when they go to retrieve these items.

I think Last time I stopped off was on route to a trackday. Thought wise to just grap a litre of oil from Toyota dealer as I was passing.
Told them I had toyota 2ZZ engine and use 5w40. Took an age with then wanting Reg/Vin to identify the engine so their computer could tell them which oil was needed. 5w40 surprisingly! Eventually he disappears off into the back for circa 15 min and finally comes out and says sorry, we don't stock 1L fully synth bottles.

FFS. Any motor factors and most decent petrol stations will have a 5w40 oil. Lesson learnt!





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Evanivitch

19,803 posts

121 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Rick101 said:
I have never waited for parts longer than in a main dealer.
Even for a simple thing like an air filter or a touch up pen you can be stood there 15 or 20 minutes.
I can only imagine they have a secret entrance to the magical world of Narnia when they go to retrieve these items.
Or perhaps the nearest motor factors is just 5 minutes away wink

Rick101

6,959 posts

149 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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The time it takes, that would not surprise me.


buggalugs

9,243 posts

236 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Rich_W said:
Whats the price difference?

£2? £3?

Seems like a false economy to me. When I service my car, the parts come from BMW. Easier cause I can go in, and get all the parts in 1 visit. The Oil comes from wherever is cheapest at the time.

Or you can spend half an hour weighing up to get the oil filter and sump ring from ECP. The air filter from eBay and the spark plugs from Halfords. Then wait a few days whilst GSF get the pollen filter as they're out of stock laugh
Could you explain the rationale there, how come sourcing the oil filter from the cheaper supplier is false economy but the oil isn't? Does the filter have magic mojo applied to it on the dealership shelves that oil doesn't?

pits

6,423 posts

189 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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JM said:
KungFuPanda said:
So, this will probably be an argument which rages until the end of time. Will the two filters (oil) be the same or will the one from ECP be manufactured to a lower quality control level hence the lower cost?
Get the exact same part (and part number) as the ECP one for less from carparts4less.
They're the same company though, except car parts 4 less sell the really st stuff ECP doesn't, if ECP are poundland, cp4l are B&M or Buyology