(PENDING)Phonesafe, Beware!!!!!

[10 Pence Short]

I would add that PhonepayPlus list at least one of the 07xxxxx numbers used by PhoneSafe as being run by 'Promotions4ll Ltd'.

[Pixelpeep]

complaint form

[ALXJ]

I have been told by PH that I will be receiving compensation/refund for the majority of the exceptional call charges,

which I am happy with.

They have also said that they will be making changes to make it clearer to the user of phonesafe and what exactly it is.

They thanked me for my feedback and I now await the transfer of the compensation/refund.

I think they will probably make a statement themselves regarding this.

Thank you to all the posters, and the original poster who has probably not been on here for a while.

If and when I do get reimbursed I will let you all know.

[illmonkey]

Good news. Lets see how it unfolds.

[10 Pence Short]

I note PhonepayPlus list promotions4ll ltd as running the PhoneSafe numbers. However, there is no such Ltd Co. in existence, according to Companies House.

This does seem extremely murky, even if all is above board.

[Podie]

10 Pence Short said:

I note PhonepayPlus list promotions4ll ltd as running the PhoneSafe numbers. However, there is no such Ltd Co. in existence, according to Companies House.

This does seem extremely murky, even if all is above board.

Typo. promotions4all

[TankRizzo]

Excellent. Good result.

[Terminator X]

10 Pence Short said:

I note PhonepayPlus list promotions4ll ltd as running the PhoneSafe numbers. However, there is no such Ltd Co. in existence, according to Companies House.

This does seem extremely murky, even if all is above board.

Mentioned earlier, seems to be an "a" after the "4".

TX.

[WinstonWolf]

LordGrover said:

phoneplayplus said:

070 numbers are regulated by Ofcom. However, PhonepayPlus can investigate services on these numbers if they are found to offer premium rate-style services and/or the number is being misused and if the cost of the call exceeds 10p per minute.

My bold.
Taken from here.

[10 Pence Short]

Podie said:

10 Pence Short said:

I note PhonepayPlus list promotions4ll ltd as running the PhoneSafe numbers. However, there is no such Ltd Co. in existence, according to Companies House.

This does seem extremely murky, even if all is above board.

Typo. promotions4all

Yes, I saw that, but that company does not share the same registered address. If it's a typo, it's also common across a number of websites and numbers operated by promotions4ll.

[Podie]

10 Pence Short said:

Podie said:

10 Pence Short said:

I note PhonepayPlus list promotions4ll ltd as running the PhoneSafe numbers. However, there is no such Ltd Co. in existence, according to Companies House.

This does seem extremely murky, even if all is above board.

Typo. promotions4all

Yes, I saw that, but that company does not share the same registered address. If it's a typo, it's also common across a number of websites and numbers operated by promotions4ll.

Interesting...

[stuartmmcfc]

This has become the most fascinating thread on PistonHeads in some time...

[marshalla]

Podie said:

10 Pence Short said:

I note PhonepayPlus list promotions4ll ltd as running the PhoneSafe numbers. However, there is no such Ltd Co. in existence, according to Companies House.

This does seem extremely murky, even if all is above board.

Typo. promotions4all

Dear God! Have you SEEN that company's website? They offer telecoms "Pakeges"

[Pixelpeep]

marshalla said:

Podie said:

10 Pence Short said:

I note PhonepayPlus list promotions4ll ltd as running the PhoneSafe numbers. However, there is no such Ltd Co. in existence, according to Companies House.

This does seem extremely murky, even if all is above board.

Typo. promotions4all

Dear God! Have you SEEN that company's website? They offer telecoms "Pakeges"

website footer said:

Promotions4all.comhave partnered with selected experts to bring you access to a number of additional products and services. Keep checking this page as we will be adding new partners regularly.The product information is obtained from independent sources, rates may vary depending on your financial circumstances. Whilst we make every effort to ensure that information is up to date, you should always confirm the terms of the offer with the produc? provider. We do not give financial advice.

[10 Pence Short]

If you Google promotions4ll you'll get a few results from the 'whocallsme' website. It appears there are a number of people who believe they're being scammed by this company, using the 07xxx numbers similar in format to those being used by Phonesafe.

I think Haymarket should introduce some clarity onto this situation, as it appears on the face of it that people are being unfairly charged by a premium rate number failing to adhere to the regulations.

[Pixelpeep]

10 Pence Short said:

If you Google promotions4ll you'll get a few results from the 'whocallsme' website

As does this thread now

[ALXJ]

stuartmmcfc said:

This has become the most fascinating thread on PistonHeads in some time...

I hope thats not really true :-)

The other thing I hope is that I really do get my money back, and that my forum posts arent going to mess that up.

Yesterday I was incredibly angry about this.


PS Cmon City, big match tonight (that might not help me either seeing as a lot of the forum members are based down south therefore could well be united fans ! I am of course joking )

Edited by ALXJ on Tuesday 25th March 16:32

[LordGrover]

Different issue, but forced consumer refunds and £100,000 fine - click. PhonepayPlus don't **** about.

[eybic]

As per our previous posts on this matter PhoneSafe is a free service for sellers to keep their own numbers private and help eliminate annoying canvassers, which are blocked.

The charges are explained by clicking the PhoneSafe logo but we are going to add an additional explanation text link next to the logo following the comments raised in this thread.

Thanks to ALXJ for raising the issue. We have shown our appreciation by processing a refund for the two exceptional length mobile calls he made to a seller. For reference the average call is 2 minutes so the cost is reasonable.

We are committed to easier and safer buying and selling for PHers. We think PhoneSafe is a good service. As a potential buyer if you do not wish to call the number, then you can of course us the email contact seller form to email direct.

For your information our PhoneSafe is powered by GCIComm.

Nathan

[stuartmmcfc]

ALXJ said:

PS Cmon City, big match tonight (that might not help me either seeing as a lot of the forum members are based down south therefore could well be united fans ! I am of course joking )

Edited by ALXJ on Tuesday 25th March 16:32