(PENDING)Phonesafe, Beware!!!!!

(PENDING)Phonesafe, Beware!!!!!

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Durzel

12,286 posts

169 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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A point of note I think: Would the advertisers who moan about the fact that Phonesafe wasn't an option have been aware of the phone charges themselves? It strikes me that if the punters didn't know the exorbitant call costs, the advertisers wouldn't have either.

If I was listing a car and knew that by selecting PhoneSafe would mean anyone interested in it would have to shell out 37.5p a minute, I wouldn't use it simply because I would know that next to no one would actually phone the number if they knew how much it was going to cost them.

KatieM

166 posts

145 months

PH TEAM

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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pincher said:
It's late where I am and so I apologise if I have missed the bit where you have answered my question regarding what you have been doing for the last year since OllieM said a replacement solution had been identified. Lack of dev resource is absolutely no excuse for not even having a tangible solution.
The replacement solution has been identified, it is the same one from last year. We've had to go back and forth with the supplier to try and get them to meet our requirements. As I mentioned previously, none of the other suppliers we went to could give us the service we needed. Tie that in with our lack of resource and inevitably projects are pushed back. I'm sorry it's not here already, but a functioning and stable website had to take precedence.

Dr Interceptor

7,803 posts

197 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Durzel said:
A point of note I think: Would the advertisers who moan about the fact that Phonesafe wasn't an option have been aware of the phone charges themselves? It strikes me that if the punters didn't know the exorbitant call costs, the advertisers wouldn't have either.

If I was listing a car and knew that by selecting PhoneSafe would mean anyone interested in it would have to shell out 37.5p a minute, I wouldn't use it simply because I would know that next to no one would actually phone the number if they knew how much it was going to cost them.
Fair point well made... I just checked the advert listing process, and at the bit where the PhoneSafe option is offered it makes no mention that it costs more for the prospective buyer to call, therefore might put some people off.

pincher

8,586 posts

218 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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KatieM said:
The replacement solution has been identified, it is the same one from last year. We've had to go back and forth with the supplier to try and get them to meet our requirements. As I mentioned previously, none of the other suppliers we went to could give us the service we needed. Tie that in with our lack of resource and inevitably projects are pushed back. I'm sorry it's not here already, but a functioning and stable website had to take precedence.
That's the first time you have told us that. I really don't know why you drip-feed the info in the way that you do. It make you look so amateurish.

Edited by pincher on Tuesday 21st February 15:31

Voldemort

6,167 posts

279 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Seeing as the ugly subject of money and resources arises

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jan/05/haym...

Guardian said:
The company, which was co-founded by Heseltine in 1957, said the small increase in operating profit was due to growing demand for online content, especially the motoring brand Pistonheads
Perhaps the big bosses could think of spreading a little more love our way...

silentbrown

8,868 posts

117 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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KatieM said:
Unfortunately due to restrictions on development with the HTTPS project, we cannot change the UX of the advert details page.
I'm sorry, but I nearly ejected tea through my nose reading that.

Mr MXT

7,692 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Any more news?

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Mr MXT said:
Any more news?
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R8Steve

4,150 posts

176 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Jesus, is this still going on?

Every time i see it i get reminded of the time i lost 60 odd quid phoning about a car.

How OFCOM haven't been onto this i've no idea.

Surely you can at least change the wording to include a warning? The current wording 'FREE PhoneSafe - No time wasters' is probably not helping.

Vaud

50,648 posts

156 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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R8Steve said:
Jesus, is this still going on?

Every time i see it i get reminded of the time i lost 60 odd quid phoning about a car.

How OFCOM haven't been onto this i've no idea.

Surely you can at least change the wording to include a warning? The current wording 'FREE PhoneSafe - No time wasters' is probably not helping.
Well it's not ofcom for a start - I posted the regulator a few pages back.

Feel free to register a formal complaint to them...

R8Steve

4,150 posts

176 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Vaud said:
R8Steve said:
Jesus, is this still going on?

Every time i see it i get reminded of the time i lost 60 odd quid phoning about a car.

How OFCOM haven't been onto this i've no idea.

Surely you can at least change the wording to include a warning? The current wording 'FREE PhoneSafe - No time wasters' is probably not helping.
Well it's not ofcom for a start - I posted the regulator a few pages back.

Feel free to register a formal complaint to them...
Apologies, i couldn't be bothered reading back pages of excuses as to why it's still not been sorted so never seen your post.

I shouldn't have to, the formal complaint has already been made to Pistonheads/Haymarket about 3 years ago.

hadenough!

3,785 posts

261 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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8 years ago...

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Still pending?

I've been trying to use the PH classifieds of late to find a car. However, this puts me off ringing anyone who has an ad using it.

Gareth79

7,700 posts

247 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Looking at an advert with Phonesafe, the deceptive thing is the link text is "Pricing info" which doesn't really tell the user that the call charges will be more than they might expect. It's so vague it could even be seen as a link to pricing information about that car model. "Call costs" or "Call charges" would be FAR more helpful.

Cyder

7,064 posts

221 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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And still the tumbleweed tumbles on.

Well done PH. rolleyes

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Do we have to have been stung by this to report it?

I looked at reporting it (not to PH), but they require evidence of phone bill charges etc. Because I haven't and won't indulge in it, I haven't got any evidence.

Would be useful to help others who may be caught out though.

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

173 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Pm an affected member maybe?

The PH scam continues.

PoleDriver

28,649 posts

195 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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It obviously hasn't sunk in yet, has it?

T H E Y D O N'T C A R E !

VGTICE

1,003 posts

88 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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I must say what a tragic pisstake this thread is. People are asking for a simple, quick fix - something an average 15 year old with basic coding knowledge could do on their phone while sitting on the toilet - and the response is LALALALALALALALALA, SORRY WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? LALALALALALALALA. And this has been going on since 2009. And they are still working on it. I'm glad I never advertised any of my cars here. HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Vaud

50,648 posts

156 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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KatieM said:
The replacement solution has been identified, it is the same one from last year. We've had to go back and forth with the supplier to try and get them to meet our requirements. As I mentioned previously, none of the other suppliers we went to could give us the service we needed. Tie that in with our lack of resource and inevitably projects are pushed back. I'm sorry it's not here already, but a functioning and stable website had to take precedence.
Now that you have a stable website with https: is this now a priority?