Murcielago - Tyres + Benefits of later 8 pot calipers

[100 IAN]

How much better are the later 8 pot calipers?

Upgrading an early car to the later set-up isn't cheap as later design alloys are also needed i believe(?)

What do people think, is it worth the expense and what 'value' would it add to the car?

Also what tyres do people use, which are the best and which are the ones to avoid?

I'm still considering a Murcielago and have looked at a few, but if anyone knows of one that is available but not advertised please PM me.

Thanks

[Ferruccio]

I don't think that things like this really add any value at all; or wheels, indicators, etc., to an early car.
What matters is inevitably year, mileage and condition.
At £70-80k an early Murci is an awful lot of car for the money.
Given current prices of stuff, what gives you a better bang for your buck?

[Hollowpockets]

Can't offer a great deal of advise as I just picked up my one yesterday but the carbon brakes and 8 pot calipers offer incredible stopping power, I was blown away by how good the brakes are on the lp640, it's up there with the Speciale for outright stopping power. It's a bit grabby at low speeds though.

The pirelli p zero Rosso tyres are on it and although seem to be very grippy, I can't help but think bridgestones potenza would result it less road noise. Keen to here what others are running and opinions.

Graham

[Davo456gt]

early Murci brakes are same as 99 onwards Diablo brakes, and they are good on the Diablo.

However, the Murcielago weighs more than the Diablo, so I suspect you may find them poor - I recall a few people on Lambo-talk/power have commented about the poor early murci brakes.

[Ferruccio]

Davo456gt said:

, so I suspect you may find them poor

Poor!?
Ever been around Silverstone driven by a professional driver in a Diablo................?

[simonspider]

The early Murcielago's did have poor brakes especially considering what's available today. My car is a Sept '04 which missed the newer Gallardo bigger brakes (and nicer wheels) by just weeks. However I had my front calipers etc upgraded to Gallardo/640 spec and it improves the brakes markedly.It also means the Hemera/Hercules wheels can be fitted which update the car no end.
The original brakes are just about ok for road use but more than three laps on a track forget it. They fade quickly and become totally unresponsive.
Incidentally for those who are interested SG54 is in Lamborghini Manchester being finished off and will be making a return to the tarmac shortly

[Bunk]

Simon

Did you ever manage to get new dampers for that car? I seem to remember you were trying to go to Koni directly due to the frankly ludicrous price of the branded items from Lamborghini?

I may have a shock needs doing that won't be capable of refurb.

Any help appreciated.

[simonspider]

Bunk said:

Simon

Did you ever manage to get new dampers for that car? I seem to remember you were trying to go to Koni directly due to the frankly ludicrous price of the branded items from Lamborghini?

I may have a shock needs doing that won't be capable of refurb.

Any help appreciated.

Hi Bunk

The shocks have proved one of the most difficult parts of the Murcielago to refurb. Unfortunately I know now that Koni do not make the replacement seals needed so the only solution is direct replacement which is the road I finally went down.
Sonny at BHP in Bucks has sourced direct new replacement shocks for the Murcie/640 - I've forgotton the make but they bolt straight on with no mods required.
I think the set of six cost me about £1500. The only downside is the fronts are not hydraulic so won't lift up the front as on the original. I figured it a small price to pay since the OEM from Lamborghini are c£2300 each. And you need 6! (4 on the back axle)
Hope this helps

[Bunk]

Thanks Simon, funny you should mention it because my car is actually at BHP at the moment having a variety of bits done including the clutch. The shocks aren't gone yet but with the car being 12 years old now I figure one is going to give. I had a front started to weep last year, but Sonny was able to get it reconditioned for me, but anything worse and it needs replacing as you said.

[SydneySE]

simonspider said:

The early Murcielago's did have poor brakes especially considering what's available today. My car is a Sept '04 which missed the newer Gallardo bigger brakes (and nicer wheels) by just weeks. However I had my front calipers etc upgraded to Gallardo/640 spec and it improves the brakes markedly.It also means the Hemera/Hercules wheels can be fitted which update the car no end.
The original brakes are just about ok for road use but more than three laps on a track forget it. They fade quickly and become totally unresponsive.
Incidentally for those who are interested SG54 is in Lamborghini Manchester being finished off and will be making a return to the tarmac shortly

simon,

I've accumulated all the parts for the upgrade (hercules wheels, gallardo callipers, LP640 discs, gallardo servo). However, Mode motorsport has lost the drawing for the caliber adaptors- and can't make another set. Is it possible to borrow the adaptors of your car to get another set made?

[MarkyL]

As we're on the topic....

.... Ive been looking for a while now, at roadsters..

Have you or anyone on the thread know anything of this one? (prefer white, purely personal choice having fell in love with the colour combo at the 50th Anniv tour)

Not the cheapest. Bust good spec. RHD, late model (2008)

http://www.amarisupercars.com/detail?vid=44334