Market seems to favour the Diablo

Market seems to favour the Diablo

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Ferruccio

1,835 posts

119 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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100 IAN said:
. early high dash binnacle which makes seeing out 'difficult' to say the least
Unless you are five foot four, it really isn't.

100 IAN

1,091 posts

162 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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Ferruccio said:
100 IAN said:
. early high dash binnacle which makes seeing out 'difficult' to say the least
Unless you are five foot four, it really isn't.
Have you owned one? I do so I know what i'm talking about and it REALLY does affect your ability to place the car safely on the road.

That is the reason why Lamborghini changed the binnacle in around late '93/early '94 and before the VT was introduced which had numerous other changes.

The revised design binnacle is far superior not just for shorter drivers but taller ones as well.

It gives the driver an infinitely better view of the road allowing you to position the car far better.

For any prospective purchasers of an early 2WD Diablo I'd recommend you try and drive both and decide for yourself.

Ferruccio

1,835 posts

119 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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100 IAN said:
Ferruccio said:
100 IAN said:
. early high dash binnacle which makes seeing out 'difficult' to say the least
Unless you are five foot four, it really isn't.
Have you owned one?
Yes. Still got it. I've had it nearly 20 years now.
I can honestly say that I don't notice that the binnacle is there.

100 IAN

1,091 posts

162 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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Ferruccio said:
Yes. Still got it. I've had it nearly 20 years now.
I can honestly say that I don't notice that the binnacle is there.
Fair enough, but I've had both and think the later binnacle makes such a difference.

I would still recommend prospective purchasers try both (if they can) and make up their own mind.

You must have bought yours when it was relatively new, what mileage have you done?


Anjum

1,605 posts

284 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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Ferruccio said:
100 IAN said:
. early high dash binnacle which makes seeing out 'difficult' to say the least
Unless you are five foot four, it really isn't.
Having owned both (and a number of other Diablo's - I'm in agreement with IAN100 - there's a reason why it's known as the Bell Helicopter dash......The later dashboards were is significant improvement - all the way through development including the MY97 SV - through the MY99 SV - which was then adopted by the GT/6.0L

Ferruccio

1,835 posts

119 months

Wednesday 16th March 2016
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100 IAN said:
Ferruccio said:
Yes. Still got it. I've had it nearly 20 years now.
I can honestly say that I don't notice that the binnacle is there. [/quote

what mileage have you done?
27,500m

Sudesh

561 posts

207 months

Thursday 17th March 2016
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I also agree with 100ain the later dash pod makes a great difference. My 1993 Diablo has it and having had the earlier model, there is no way I would recommend it to any height person!

Edited by Sudesh on Thursday 17th March 20:39

P30LAM

95 posts

119 months

Friday 18th March 2016
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P30LAM said:
100 IAN said:
Just sold at Brooklands Historics on Saturday for £98,560 hammer price so with 10% commission added (subject to VAT i beleive) = just over £110k for a LHD car with 50k miles on the clock, blue interior (not to everyone's taste) and early high dash binnacle which makes seeing out 'difficult' to say the least.

http://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2016-03...



183 - 1991 Lamborghini Diablo

Registration J754 DYE
Chassis Number ZA90E07A0NLA12526
Engine Number ZA90E07A0NLA12526
Odometer reading 80,201 km

Hammer Sold - £98,560

Presented in Lamborghini Super Fly Yellow with contrasting blue leather interior, this Diablo looks every part the loud example Lamborghinis should be. Having been originally supplied to the UAE before being imported to the UK in 2003, this car has been enjoyed but loved throughout its tenure. It has been serviced comprehensively throughout its ownership by renowned specialists Carrera Sport and Bob Houghton as detailed in the stamped maintenance book. Recently serviced and with a new MoT test certificate until December 2016 together with handbooks, workshop manual and a history file detailing the previous maintenance, this car was treasured by the vendor as one of the centre pieces of his collection. Without question, this stunning Italian Sportscar is one of the world's true supercars and is offered with a very tempting estimate given their relative scarcity in today's market.

That's strong money surely.......?
It's an interesting marker, and confirms the steady price inflation. Early 2WD and LHD, high mileage....

Precisely two years ago a cleaner, RHD, lower mileage 2WD that Carlo had at Top Gear sold for iro 56k. At that time the two SE30s he had for sale went for £139,950 (Red) and £149,950 (Viola).

100 IAN

1,091 posts

162 months

Saturday 9th April 2016
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Another early LHD 2WD High Binnacle car coming to auction soon, 28k miles, guided at £90-110k

https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/1991-lamborghi...


jdwcd

2,517 posts

202 months

Saturday 9th April 2016
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What the hell is that dash


http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...

Edited by jdwcd on Saturday 16th April 16:33

100 IAN

1,091 posts

162 months

Saturday 9th April 2016
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That is truly awful, how much would that devalue the car by...£10k, £20k?

Perhaps i should sell them the spare binnacle i have? Its gotta be worth a good few £k as selling that car with THAT hideous homemade box isn't going to be easy(?)

P30LAM

95 posts

119 months

Tuesday 12th April 2016
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The car overall seems a right sorry mess. I struggle to understand why someone would spend so much time and money adding false livery and questionable 'modifications'.

100 IAN said:


That is truly awful, how much would that devalue the car by...£10k, £20k?

Perhaps i should sell them the spare binnacle i have? Its gotta be worth a good few £k as selling that car with THAT hideous homemade box isn't going to be easy(?)

George 500

647 posts

218 months

Saturday 16th April 2016
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P30LAM said:
P30LAM said:
100 IAN said:
Just sold at Brooklands Historics on Saturday for £98,560 hammer price so with 10% commission added (subject to VAT i beleive) = just over £110k for a LHD car with 50k miles on the clock, blue interior (not to everyone's taste) and early high dash binnacle which makes seeing out 'difficult' to say the least.

http://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2016-03...
It's an interesting marker, and confirms the steady price inflation. Early 2WD and LHD, high mileage....

Precisely two years ago a cleaner, RHD, lower mileage 2WD that Carlo had at Top Gear sold for iro 56k. At that time the two SE30s he had for sale went for £139,950 (Red) and £149,950 (Viola).
P30 LAM- Carlo obviously made you a better offer than he made me!! It was £60k in the end and I paid £2k for a set of original wheels. Still glad I did it in retrospect (obviously) but I am clearly inept as I like driving it and therefore am apparently destroying value in this absurd mileage obsessed climate...

To me the yellow one looks like strong money- Carlo has a red 2wd model for sale at £120k right now and it has been offer for a few months It is RHD and lower miles than the one auctioned, furthermore he has done a light resto on it and has installed PAS and a Murci clutch (albeit it has later headlights and wheels)

In terms of the dash? I would love a lower dash for aesthetic reasons but at over six feet I struggle more with the windscreen header than the dash binnacle, I certainly wouldn't describe it as dangerous.

yzr500

204 posts

103 months

Saturday 16th April 2016
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P30LAM said:
It's an interesting marker, and confirms the steady price inflation. Early 2WD and LHD, high mileage....

Precisely two years ago a cleaner, RHD, lower mileage 2WD that Carlo had at Top Gear sold for iro 56k. At that time the two SE30s he had for sale went for £139,950 (Red) and £149,950 (Viola).
I sold that yellow diablo j754dye on ebay last january to a guy in slough berks don,t remember that quoted service history

P30LAM

95 posts

119 months

Saturday 16th April 2016
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George 500 - I remember the Scurio Blue 2WD well. I travelled from London to view that car and had a deposit on it. We discussed the price of getting original wheels on it etc. It was then I saw the 2 SE30s in the corner and I couldn't resist. I had agreed 56k with Carlo on yours and he had indicated 2.lk for the replacement original wheels. Yours is a great example!

George 500 said:
P30LAM said:
P30LAM said:
100 IAN said:
Just sold at Brooklands Historics on Saturday for £98,560 hammer price so with 10% commission added (subject to VAT i beleive) = just over £110k for a LHD car with 50k miles on the clock, blue interior (not to everyone's taste) and early high dash binnacle which makes seeing out 'difficult' to say the least.

http://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2016-03...
It's an interesting marker, and confirms the steady price inflation. Early 2WD and LHD, high mileage....

Precisely two years ago a cleaner, RHD, lower mileage 2WD that Carlo had at Top Gear sold for iro 56k. At that time the two SE30s he had for sale went for £139,950 (Red) and £149,950 (Viola).
P30 LAM- Carlo obviously made you a better offer than he made me!! It was £60k in the end and I paid £2k for a set of original wheels. Still glad I did it in retrospect (obviously) but I am clearly inept as I like driving it and therefore am apparently destroying value in this absurd mileage obsessed climate...

To me the yellow one looks like strong money- Carlo has a red 2wd model for sale at £120k right now and it has been offer for a few months It is RHD and lower miles than the one auctioned, furthermore he has done a light resto on it and has installed PAS and a Murci clutch (albeit it has later headlights and wheels)

In terms of the dash? I would love a lower dash for aesthetic reasons but at over six feet I struggle more with the windscreen header than the dash binnacle, I certainly wouldn't describe it as dangerous.

George 500

647 posts

218 months

Sunday 24th April 2016
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Thank you but I cannot pretend that I don't covet yours!!

Happy driving

AtlantisWeb

358 posts

170 months

Saturday 30th April 2016
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Has anybody noticed just how many Diablos there are for sale at the moment?
I've never seen so many on the market.

100 IAN

1,091 posts

162 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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Another early LHD car coming up for auction soon (Goodwood FoS 24th June). Lots of pictures but strangely no description (yet).

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23593/preview_lot/...


del mar

2,838 posts

199 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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There was an se 30 jota up for auction in Monaco today - not sure what it went for.

del mar

2,838 posts

199 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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There was an se 30 jota up for auction in Monaco today - not sure what it went for.