Buying an Aventador - pls help
Discussion
Gearbox's can go at any time, and any mileage. One of my gearbox's failed at 3k miles, and at 14k miles. (30-35k repair bill each time !!)
Both mine covered under official Lambo warranty.
Most non lambo warranty's will have a maximum claim limit of either 5k or 10k, so not helpfull really on an aventador.
You can only put a proper lambo warranty on a 2016 car or newer due to age restrictions. 7 years old or 48k miles maximum I think.
1k inspection, 6.6k a year for the warranty.
Also if the car does not have a proper full main dealer service history (a main dealer stamp every year), I am not sure if you can add the warranty to the car.
A nice S model is on ebay which still has the proper warranty, where a deal may be done, but has 18k miles.
Good luck, great cars... (but my advice will always be buy one which comes with a lambo warranty) which covers everything!
Both mine covered under official Lambo warranty.
Most non lambo warranty's will have a maximum claim limit of either 5k or 10k, so not helpfull really on an aventador.
You can only put a proper lambo warranty on a 2016 car or newer due to age restrictions. 7 years old or 48k miles maximum I think.
1k inspection, 6.6k a year for the warranty.
Also if the car does not have a proper full main dealer service history (a main dealer stamp every year), I am not sure if you can add the warranty to the car.
A nice S model is on ebay which still has the proper warranty, where a deal may be done, but has 18k miles.
Good luck, great cars... (but my advice will always be buy one which comes with a lambo warranty) which covers everything!
Batman801 said:
Fast Eddie said:
Without wishing in any way to appear unpleasant I think you need to do a great deal more research before jumping into a car like an Aventador.
Have you owned supercars previously or even 'fast' cars?
Why do you think you want a Lamborghini?
What are you going to use it for?
Also, very important from an insurance perspective, how old are you and what's your postcode?
that's ok.Have you owned supercars previously or even 'fast' cars?
Why do you think you want a Lamborghini?
What are you going to use it for?
Also, very important from an insurance perspective, how old are you and what's your postcode?
I have thought a lot about it. No I have not owned a super car before.
it's basically dream since I was young and now I can afford it. I'm just over 35 - the more i think of it I don't want to really drive it when im 60. It's just for the big experience of owning one.
unfortunately I live in central london.
am I being stupid?
Do supercar clubs still exist? If so would't that be a better option? You could even then try a few supercars as you say you haven't owned one before.
They are definitely not cars you can run if costs are a concern.
If you want the experience, as mentioned above, nothing beats it. It feels more special and exciting than pretty much anything else on the road at any level. Nothing turbocharged will ever sound like that V12.
But just be prepared for possible bills in the tens of thousands and potential big depreciation (though that can be completely hit or miss but plan for at least £30k loss). If you accept you will pay quite a lot for privilege of owning such a phenomenal car aside from the purchase price and go into it with that mentality then there won't be any nasty shocks.
If you want the experience, as mentioned above, nothing beats it. It feels more special and exciting than pretty much anything else on the road at any level. Nothing turbocharged will ever sound like that V12.
But just be prepared for possible bills in the tens of thousands and potential big depreciation (though that can be completely hit or miss but plan for at least £30k loss). If you accept you will pay quite a lot for privilege of owning such a phenomenal car aside from the purchase price and go into it with that mentality then there won't be any nasty shocks.
lambo666 said:
Gearbox's can go at any time, and any mileage. One of my gearbox's failed at 3k miles, and at 14k miles. (30-35k repair bill each time !!)
Both mine covered under official Lambo warranty.
Most non lambo warranty's will have a maximum claim limit of either 5k or 10k, so not helpfull really on an aventador.
You can only put a proper lambo warranty on a 2016 car or newer due to age restrictions. 7 years old or 48k miles maximum I think.
1k inspection, 6.6k a year for the warranty.
Also if the car does not have a proper full main dealer service history (a main dealer stamp every year), I am not sure if you can add the warranty to the car.
A nice S model is on ebay which still has the proper warranty, where a deal may be done, but has 18k miles.
Good luck, great cars... (but my advice will always be buy one which comes with a lambo warranty) which covers everything!
this is super helpful man really appreciate it.Both mine covered under official Lambo warranty.
Most non lambo warranty's will have a maximum claim limit of either 5k or 10k, so not helpfull really on an aventador.
You can only put a proper lambo warranty on a 2016 car or newer due to age restrictions. 7 years old or 48k miles maximum I think.
1k inspection, 6.6k a year for the warranty.
Also if the car does not have a proper full main dealer service history (a main dealer stamp every year), I am not sure if you can add the warranty to the car.
A nice S model is on ebay which still has the proper warranty, where a deal may be done, but has 18k miles.
Good luck, great cars... (but my advice will always be buy one which comes with a lambo warranty) which covers everything!
so for a 2016 car I can only get 1 year warranty extension.. and next year I can't, is that correct?
I've googled so much - it seems gearbox failure is very common on lambos is this accurate? are ferraris more reliable on this? I don't understand why lambo warranty is so tricky. on ferraris it seems it's so much more simpler to extend.
last question - if the gearbox fails and you have a non lambo warranty, you then pay the difference. is that what you have now? and how long does it take to fix it, is this a 1-2 weeks job or car gets sent away for months?
Thank you again!
lambo666 said:
Gearbox's can go at any time, and any mileage. One of my gearbox's failed at 3k miles, and at 14k miles. (30-35k repair bill each time !!)
Both mine covered under official Lambo warranty.
Most non lambo warranty's will have a maximum claim limit of either 5k or 10k, so not helpfull really on an aventador.
You can only put a proper lambo warranty on a 2016 car or newer due to age restrictions. 7 years old or 48k miles maximum I think.
1k inspection, 6.6k a year for the warranty.
Also if the car does not have a proper full main dealer service history (a main dealer stamp every year), I am not sure if you can add the warranty to the car.
A nice S model is on ebay which still has the proper warranty, where a deal may be done, but has 18k miles.
Good luck, great cars... (but my advice will always be buy one which comes with a lambo warranty) which covers everything!
is the quoted bill because lamborghini replace rather than repair when under warranty ?Both mine covered under official Lambo warranty.
Most non lambo warranty's will have a maximum claim limit of either 5k or 10k, so not helpfull really on an aventador.
You can only put a proper lambo warranty on a 2016 car or newer due to age restrictions. 7 years old or 48k miles maximum I think.
1k inspection, 6.6k a year for the warranty.
Also if the car does not have a proper full main dealer service history (a main dealer stamp every year), I am not sure if you can add the warranty to the car.
A nice S model is on ebay which still has the proper warranty, where a deal may be done, but has 18k miles.
Good luck, great cars... (but my advice will always be buy one which comes with a lambo warranty) which covers everything!
With regards to the extension question, yes that is correct.
Different gearbox faults are common and complex (I had a 600lt also that needed a new gearbox under warranty)
The gearbox's are very complicated on modern super cars, and if they go wrong and you have a proper warranty the manufacturer just replaces the whole unit rather than trying to repair it like the old days)
You are looking at approx a month to 6 weeks time frame when a gearbox needs to be replaced / shipped in and fitted / authorised at a main dealer etc.
I am assuming if you have a cheaper warranty, you would be allowed up to the claim maximum, then have to pay the difference.
I would not like to be in a position trying to put such a large claim in with a warranty wise / auto-protect / rac warranty etc.
A lambo warranty is expensive, but includes everything, a ferrari warranty (official) if the extended one does not cover much at all!
The black one on ebay is my old car, and is a good one, I am currently in a 2019 Blue Av roadster (with one year and 9 months remaining warranty).
I have now done approx 20k miles in 2 aventadors, so know there faults etc.
Personally I would buy the newest car you can afford, with the correct warranty and enjoy the car,
Different gearbox faults are common and complex (I had a 600lt also that needed a new gearbox under warranty)
The gearbox's are very complicated on modern super cars, and if they go wrong and you have a proper warranty the manufacturer just replaces the whole unit rather than trying to repair it like the old days)
You are looking at approx a month to 6 weeks time frame when a gearbox needs to be replaced / shipped in and fitted / authorised at a main dealer etc.
I am assuming if you have a cheaper warranty, you would be allowed up to the claim maximum, then have to pay the difference.
I would not like to be in a position trying to put such a large claim in with a warranty wise / auto-protect / rac warranty etc.
A lambo warranty is expensive, but includes everything, a ferrari warranty (official) if the extended one does not cover much at all!
The black one on ebay is my old car, and is a good one, I am currently in a 2019 Blue Av roadster (with one year and 9 months remaining warranty).
I have now done approx 20k miles in 2 aventadors, so know there faults etc.
Personally I would buy the newest car you can afford, with the correct warranty and enjoy the car,
lambo666 said:
With regards to the extension question, yes that is correct.
Different gearbox faults are common and complex (I had a 600lt also that needed a new gearbox under warranty)
The gearbox's are very complicated on modern super cars, and if they go wrong and you have a proper warranty the manufacturer just replaces the whole unit rather than trying to repair it like the old days)
You are looking at approx a month to 6 weeks time frame when a gearbox needs to be replaced / shipped in and fitted / authorised at a main dealer etc.
I am assuming if you have a cheaper warranty, you would be allowed up to the claim maximum, then have to pay the difference.
I would not like to be in a position trying to put such a large claim in with a warranty wise / auto-protect / rac warranty etc.
A lambo warranty is expensive, but includes everything, a ferrari warranty (official) if the extended one does not cover much at all!
The black one on ebay is my old car, and is a good one, I am currently in a 2019 Blue Av roadster (with one year and 9 months remaining warranty).
I have now done approx 20k miles in 2 aventadors, so know there faults etc.
Personally I would buy the newest car you can afford, with the correct warranty and enjoy the car,
what's your plans when the warranty expires? you plan to sell it?Different gearbox faults are common and complex (I had a 600lt also that needed a new gearbox under warranty)
The gearbox's are very complicated on modern super cars, and if they go wrong and you have a proper warranty the manufacturer just replaces the whole unit rather than trying to repair it like the old days)
You are looking at approx a month to 6 weeks time frame when a gearbox needs to be replaced / shipped in and fitted / authorised at a main dealer etc.
I am assuming if you have a cheaper warranty, you would be allowed up to the claim maximum, then have to pay the difference.
I would not like to be in a position trying to put such a large claim in with a warranty wise / auto-protect / rac warranty etc.
A lambo warranty is expensive, but includes everything, a ferrari warranty (official) if the extended one does not cover much at all!
The black one on ebay is my old car, and is a good one, I am currently in a 2019 Blue Av roadster (with one year and 9 months remaining warranty).
I have now done approx 20k miles in 2 aventadors, so know there faults etc.
Personally I would buy the newest car you can afford, with the correct warranty and enjoy the car,
Is there a recommended way to drive it? automatic vs. manual? in gear 1 and stick it in neutral every single stop to prolong the life of the clutch?
I'll be in central london-ish where there is lot of traffic. even though this would be occasional weekend car - I'm quite concerned about such big liability. actually tbh I'm reconsidering the whole thing since starting this post. I'm glad I've done as there were a few things I hadn't thought about, so big thanks.
Also on valuations - every dealer is so eager to tell me how these will hold up their values and some telling me how they're going up!! - I know SVJs went jumped like 100k but do we all believe this that aventadors will keep their value or even go up in the coming 1-2 yrs? esp. noting the new revuelto + options might cost close to 600k?
thanks !
Batman801 said:
what's your plans when the warranty expires? you plan to sell it?
Is there a recommended way to drive it? automatic vs. manual? in gear 1 and stick it in neutral every single stop to prolong the life of the clutch?
I'll be in central london-ish where there is lot of traffic. even though this would be occasional weekend car - I'm quite concerned about such big liability. actually tbh I'm reconsidering the whole thing since starting this post. I'm glad I've done as there were a few things I hadn't thought about, so big thanks.
Also on valuations - every dealer is so eager to tell me how these will hold up their values and some telling me how they're going up!! - I know SVJs went jumped like 100k but do we all believe this that aventadors will keep their value or even go up in the coming 1-2 yrs? esp. noting the new revuelto + options might cost close to 600k?
thanks !
Drive it smoothly, shift into neutral when stationary and avoid massive load on the clutch. Same as any supercar. Always warm it up thoroughly before using the performance (this will be hard to do in London, Aventadors are slow to wake up and need gentle tickling for 15-20 miles, not stop start traffic).Is there a recommended way to drive it? automatic vs. manual? in gear 1 and stick it in neutral every single stop to prolong the life of the clutch?
I'll be in central london-ish where there is lot of traffic. even though this would be occasional weekend car - I'm quite concerned about such big liability. actually tbh I'm reconsidering the whole thing since starting this post. I'm glad I've done as there were a few things I hadn't thought about, so big thanks.
Also on valuations - every dealer is so eager to tell me how these will hold up their values and some telling me how they're going up!! - I know SVJs went jumped like 100k but do we all believe this that aventadors will keep their value or even go up in the coming 1-2 yrs? esp. noting the new revuelto + options might cost close to 600k?
thanks !
Don't believe any supercar will go up in value unless a real rarity produced in tiny numbers. If it does, bonus, but expect to lose money. Early AV's have been fairly static at £140-£150k for years now but remember how much they cost to maintain. As pointed out above the newest possible car will be more reliable but will depreciate. A friend lost £80k in depreciation on his new S which he was quite pleased with as he expected it to be over £100k. Neighbour just sold his 2013 car which he lost £25k on in a year.
From Lamborghini - To be eligible for the Selezione program, the car must be no more than 7 years old (10 for Urus) and have no more than 70,000 km (100,000 for Urus).
To renew the warranty, the car must pass the 150 tests of the Lamborghini checklist.
"Drive it smoothly, shift into neutral when stationary and avoid massive load on the clutch. Same as any supercar. Always warm it up thoroughly before using the performance (this will be hard to do in London, Aventadors are slow to wake up and need gentle tickling for 15-20 miles, not stop start traffic)."
Totally agree with this.
If you live in london, just join one or two driving clubs like drivers union etc, and go out for drives / meets with other owners on the outskirts of london.
Plenty of places to use the car properly if you make the effort (up and out at 6.30am etc)
Just buy that black one on ebay with warranty, similar cars are at main dealers for 250k!
If you bought an S model at 220k, I don't think you will lose too much, good cars with correct history are still rare!
To renew the warranty, the car must pass the 150 tests of the Lamborghini checklist.
"Drive it smoothly, shift into neutral when stationary and avoid massive load on the clutch. Same as any supercar. Always warm it up thoroughly before using the performance (this will be hard to do in London, Aventadors are slow to wake up and need gentle tickling for 15-20 miles, not stop start traffic)."
Totally agree with this.
If you live in london, just join one or two driving clubs like drivers union etc, and go out for drives / meets with other owners on the outskirts of london.
Plenty of places to use the car properly if you make the effort (up and out at 6.30am etc)
Just buy that black one on ebay with warranty, similar cars are at main dealers for 250k!
If you bought an S model at 220k, I don't think you will lose too much, good cars with correct history are still rare!
cgt2 said:
Drive it smoothly, shift into neutral when stationary and avoid massive load on the clutch. Same as any supercar. Always warm it up thoroughly before using the performance (this will be hard to do in London, Aventadors are slow to wake up and need gentle tickling for 15-20 miles, not stop start traffic).
Don't believe any supercar will go up in value unless a real rarity produced in tiny numbers. If it does, bonus, but expect to lose money. Early AV's have been fairly static at £140-£150k for years now but remember how much they cost to maintain. As pointed out above the newest possible car will be more reliable but will depreciate. A friend lost £80k in depreciation on his new S which he was quite pleased with as he expected it to be over £100k. Neighbour just sold his 2013 car which he lost £25k on in a year.
Understood thanks. And how about an SV - I think they're more rarer, 600 and 500 roadsters - what do you think it's their fair value today vs. 2 years from now? I know this is difficult but appreciate any thought.Don't believe any supercar will go up in value unless a real rarity produced in tiny numbers. If it does, bonus, but expect to lose money. Early AV's have been fairly static at £140-£150k for years now but remember how much they cost to maintain. As pointed out above the newest possible car will be more reliable but will depreciate. A friend lost £80k in depreciation on his new S which he was quite pleased with as he expected it to be over £100k. Neighbour just sold his 2013 car which he lost £25k on in a year.
Batman801 said:
Understood thanks. And how about an SV - I think they're more rarer, 600 and 500 roadsters - what do you think it's their fair value today vs. 2 years from now? I know this is difficult but appreciate any thought.
Not sure on SV as I haven't watched them closely, I'm sure others here can advise. I do remember hearing that although not limited production as such, there were actually less 'S' produced as it was only in production just over a year. The black car on Ebay recommended above does look great, I would be buying that if I were you and I think relatively safe at that money too.starsky67 said:
Genuine question but if you plan to drive around London a fair bit, why on Earth are you considering an Aventador? It doesn’t sound like it would be enjoyable at all. Wouldn’t you buy something else for driving in the city a keep the Aventador for road trips etc?
I don't drive much at all in london. I prefer public transport or uber 99% of the time. the AV is just a childhood dream and now I can afford one but after reading more around the web it's really putting me off.I just read this long post at Quora that really has made me think twice - I think I just like the look of the car. everything else seems like a nightmare..
not sure at all now. maybe ferraris are more reliabile - at least the warranties are longer and extendable.. think I'll think a bit more before doing anything.(the first post from Flavian Alexander is brutal man):
https://www.quora.com/Can-you-daily-drive-a-Lambor...
Edited by Batman801 on Monday 10th April 20:21
lambo666 said:
From Lamborghini - To be eligible for the Selezione program, the car must be no more than 7 years old (10 for Urus) and have no more than 70,000 km (100,000 for Urus).
To renew the warranty, the car must pass the 150 tests of the Lamborghini checklist.
"Drive it smoothly, shift into neutral when stationary and avoid massive load on the clutch. Same as any supercar. Always warm it up thoroughly before using the performance (this will be hard to do in London, Aventadors are slow to wake up and need gentle tickling for 15-20 miles, not stop start traffic)."
Totally agree with this.
If you live in london, just join one or two driving clubs like drivers union etc, and go out for drives / meets with other owners on the outskirts of london.
Plenty of places to use the car properly if you make the effort (up and out at 6.30am etc)
Just buy that black one on ebay with warranty, similar cars are at main dealers for 250k!
If you bought an S model at 220k, I don't think you will lose too much, good cars with correct history are still rare!
Many thanks for this, that's great to know. so basically any 2016 SV will only be able to extend under lambo warranty for just 1 yr To renew the warranty, the car must pass the 150 tests of the Lamborghini checklist.
"Drive it smoothly, shift into neutral when stationary and avoid massive load on the clutch. Same as any supercar. Always warm it up thoroughly before using the performance (this will be hard to do in London, Aventadors are slow to wake up and need gentle tickling for 15-20 miles, not stop start traffic)."
Totally agree with this.
If you live in london, just join one or two driving clubs like drivers union etc, and go out for drives / meets with other owners on the outskirts of london.
Plenty of places to use the car properly if you make the effort (up and out at 6.30am etc)
Just buy that black one on ebay with warranty, similar cars are at main dealers for 250k!
If you bought an S model at 220k, I don't think you will lose too much, good cars with correct history are still rare!
I'll take a good look at the one on ebay, thanks
cgt2 said:
Not sure on SV as I haven't watched them closely, I'm sure others here can advise. I do remember hearing that although not limited production as such, there were actually less 'S' produced as it was only in production just over a year. The black car on Ebay recommended above does look great, I would be buying that if I were you and I think relatively safe at that money too.
Ok so I just checked the one on ebay (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295605142730?). firstly I don't hugely fancy it (colour, wheels, interior seats etc.). but in any case, the warranty is only for 6 months. and it's done 18k miles..
in 2 years when the warranty is not extendeable it's surely sub 200k..
I had this thought that rather going with newer, you go for the most expensive you can afford - it seems the higher end attracts buyers that are less price sensetive? but I could be very wrong.
Batman801 said:
I don't drive much at all in london. I prefer public transport or uber 99% of the time. the AV is just a childhood dream and now I can afford one but after reading more around the web it's really putting me off.
I just read this long post at Quora that really has made me think twice - I think I just like the look of the car. everything else seems like a nightmare.. not sure at all now. maybe ferraris are more reliabile - at least the warranties are longer and extendable.. think I'll think a bit more before doing anything.
(the first post from Flavian Alexander is brutal man):
https://www.quora.com/Can-you-daily-drive-a-Lambor...
Sounds like his gripes with the comfort are specific to the SV. The S is quite a bit more civilised.I just read this long post at Quora that really has made me think twice - I think I just like the look of the car. everything else seems like a nightmare..
not sure at all now. maybe ferraris are more reliabile - at least the warranties are longer and extendable.. think I'll think a bit more before doing anything.(the first post from Flavian Alexander is brutal man):
https://www.quora.com/Can-you-daily-drive-a-Lambor...
Edited by Batman801 on Monday 10th April 20:21
You will attract unwanted attention in any real supercar.
Batman801 said:
starsky67 said:
Genuine question but if you plan to drive around London a fair bit, why on Earth are you considering an Aventador? It doesn’t sound like it would be enjoyable at all. Wouldn’t you buy something else for driving in the city a keep the Aventador for road trips etc?
I don't drive much at all in london. I prefer public transport or uber 99% of the time. the AV is just a childhood dream and now I can afford one but after reading more around the web it's really putting me off.I just read this long post at Quora that really has made me think twice - I think I just like the look of the car. everything else seems like a nightmare..
not sure at all now. maybe ferraris are more reliabile - at least the warranties are longer and extendable.. think I'll think a bit more before doing anything.(the first post from Flavian Alexander is brutal man):
https://www.quora.com/Can-you-daily-drive-a-Lambor...
Edited by Batman801 on Monday 10th April 20:21
Good luck though if you go ahead, life’s for living after all.
Those are bad pictures really as are taken outside, Better pictures when I bought it, and the car still looks like this -
https://www.prestigemotorwarehouse.co.uk/cars/ad/2...
All cars will probably lose money, if you payed top money now for an Aventador svj / Ultimae you could easily lose 100k plus if the market weakens, with the above car even if you ran it for 2 years and got up to 30k miles, it would still be 185k plus I would imagine - if the market stays the same or as it is now, 190 - 200k would still be achievable (a 20k loss between buying and selling at this level is doing v well).
If you are worried about about losing 20k over 1 or 2 years I think any super car is prob out of budget!
I only buy used cars for this very reason (one or 2 years old to help with the depreciation).
https://www.prestigemotorwarehouse.co.uk/cars/ad/2...
All cars will probably lose money, if you payed top money now for an Aventador svj / Ultimae you could easily lose 100k plus if the market weakens, with the above car even if you ran it for 2 years and got up to 30k miles, it would still be 185k plus I would imagine - if the market stays the same or as it is now, 190 - 200k would still be achievable (a 20k loss between buying and selling at this level is doing v well).
If you are worried about about losing 20k over 1 or 2 years I think any super car is prob out of budget!
I only buy used cars for this very reason (one or 2 years old to help with the depreciation).
It may be worth looking at joining a car club instead, you get access to the cars and know your exact costs without the risk of a large unexpected bill. Yes you don’t own the car, but it has its benefits. I know someone that is a member of this and he rates it:
https://www.autovivendi.com/
https://www.autovivendi.com/
Batman801 said:
starsky67 said:
Genuine question but if you plan to drive around London a fair bit, why on Earth are you considering an Aventador? It doesn’t sound like it would be enjoyable at all. Wouldn’t you buy something else for driving in the city a keep the Aventador for road trips etc?
I don't drive much at all in london. I prefer public transport or uber 99% of the time. the AV is just a childhood dream and now I can afford one but after reading more around the web it's really putting me off.I just read this long post at Quora that really has made me think twice - I think I just like the look of the car. everything else seems like a nightmare..
not sure at all now. maybe ferraris are more reliabile - at least the warranties are longer and extendable.. think I'll think a bit more before doing anything.(the first post from Flavian Alexander is brutal man):
https://www.quora.com/Can-you-daily-drive-a-Lambor...
Edited by Batman801 on Monday 10th April 20:21
I think though from your posts the car for you would be Ferrari 458/488. Half the drama of an Aventador but way more practical and a better car to drive. The Aventador is a special car and will remain so for many years to come..the impracticability adds to the drama IMHO!
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