Countach

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AndrewD

7,537 posts

284 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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Ferruccio said:
Why?

(He may just be very politic - he kind of said the opposite when filling my Jalpa up with oil at the 30th anniversary factory jaunt.)
He said, on the Countach, it doesn't do anything but add drag. Also it wasn't a factory part. They were fitted after the cars rolled off the production line.

I guess he could have been saying this because he was inspecting my car which doesn't have a wing, but I didn't think so.

80sMatchbox

3,891 posts

176 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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Ferruccio said:
I remember well when my first Lambo was delivered - a Jalpa.
I stood there with the dealer wondering whether or not to get the wing removed.
He said, "Look if you're worried about looking over the top, you shouldn't have bought a red Lamborghini!"
The wing's still on.
A great story, love it. beer

rich888

2,610 posts

199 months

Wednesday 11th November 2015
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AndrewD said:
Ferruccio said:
Why?

(He may just be very politic - he kind of said the opposite when filling my Jalpa up with oil at the 30th anniversary factory jaunt.)
He said, on the Countach, it doesn't do anything but add drag. Also it wasn't a factory part. They were fitted after the cars rolled off the production line.

I guess he could have been saying this because he was inspecting my car which doesn't have a wing, but I didn't think so.
For what it's worth I seem to recollect that the Countach owned by Mike Pullen of Carrera Sport doesn't have a rear wing, and he certainly knows how to push the car to its absolute limits and sometimes beyond.

NEFOC

415 posts

191 months

Thursday 12th November 2015
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rich888 said:
AndrewD said:
Ferruccio said:
Why?

(He may just be very politic - he kind of said the opposite when filling my Jalpa up with oil at the 30th anniversary factory jaunt.)
He said, on the Countach, it doesn't do anything but add drag. Also it wasn't a factory part. They were fitted after the cars rolled off the production line.

I guess he could have been saying this because he was inspecting my car which doesn't have a wing, but I didn't think so.
For what it's worth I seem to recollect that the Countach owned by Mike Pullen of Carrera Sport doesn't have a rear wing, and he certainly knows how to push the car to its absolute limits and sometimes beyond.
If you have the flares you need the wing otherwise it just looks wrong. Put a wing on a no flare LP400 and it looks stupid. Take your wing off an LP500 and it doesn't look right to me. I was born in 1970 and for me it has a wing. Poster car etc. Maybe if I were slightly older I'd say not. Who knows.

Ferruccio

1,835 posts

119 months

Thursday 12th November 2015
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To me it's like blonde or brunette.........?

Anjum

1,605 posts

284 months

Thursday 12th November 2015
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NEFOC said:
If you have the flares you need the wing otherwise it just looks wrong. Put a wing on a no flare LP400 and it looks stupid. Take your wing off an LP500 and it doesn't look right to me. I was born in 1970 and for me it has a wing. Poster car etc. Maybe if I were slightly older I'd say not. Who knows.
or the tash...... smile

AndrewD

7,537 posts

284 months

Thursday 12th November 2015
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Anjum said:
NEFOC said:
If you have the flares you need the wing otherwise it just looks wrong. Put a wing on a no flare LP400 and it looks stupid. Take your wing off an LP500 and it doesn't look right to me. I was born in 1970 and for me it has a wing. Poster car etc. Maybe if I were slightly older I'd say not. Who knows.
or the tash...... smile
Or the glittery catsuits!

NEFOC

415 posts

191 months

Thursday 12th November 2015
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AndrewD said:
Anjum said:
NEFOC said:
If you have the flares you need the wing otherwise it just looks wrong. Put a wing on a no flare LP400 and it looks stupid. Take your wing off an LP500 and it doesn't look right to me. I was born in 1970 and for me it has a wing. Poster car etc. Maybe if I were slightly older I'd say not. Who knows.
or the tash...... smile
Or the glittery catsuits!
I think you guys have just sorted my Movember target for the end of the month. http://mobro.co/trissimpson if you fancy sponsoring me guys and have a laugh at last years Magnum PI attempt in my 308

ruttboy

595 posts

226 months

Saturday 14th November 2015
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Wing for me.......I'll just leave this here!


LDM

372 posts

127 months

Tuesday 17th November 2015
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I prefer it without (and as said before the earlier cleaner lines are my fav) but think they all look fantastic and if I had to have one with a wing I wouldn't be disappointed in the slightest - if only I were so lucky!

Great cars and great pics, thanks for sharing.

Tadek

284 posts

210 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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ruttboy said:
Wing for me.......I'll just leave this here!

What a great photo. I totally agree, a wing helps make it (fly)

paulqv

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3,124 posts

195 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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The wing was always a factory "extra' bought with your car but fitted by the dealer at your 'request'. The reason was simple. the wing could never get homologated anywhere. Accordingly it was supplied in a box and fitted by the dealer to get around that. Once you bought your cars it was for you to decide what you did with them and not longer a factory responsibility or liability.

Valentino is right. I think he once described the wing as 'just Hollywood' It is for show and has no positive effect on performance or handling. It creates no extra downforce etc. In fact it is estimated to take between 10-15mph off top speed. ( I think it was Valentino or Del Hopkins who told me that? ) Sadly I have never been able to test this as I have only had my car up to 160mph a few times. My feeling is that it is a genuine 180mph car. My car has a wing fitted. the cars vary significantly in performance depending on many things. Back when the cars were built it wasn't uncommon to have cars varying in performance by +5 to5% from the factory settings due to build As these bangers are now 30 years old or so, then it depends on how they have been used and driven. A mate who has driven many dozens Ct's says mine is fast. I do tend to thrash it at every opportunity and red line it every time i drive it. Italian tuning!

Back in the 80's Barry Robinisons cars were tested a lot by Motor Magazine and they sometimes struggled with getting good top speed figures for the cars.

I would like to have a spare bottled to swap over to take the wing off and on. It looks more outrageous with it on. Just my personal view and everyone has different ones. It is certainly good at picnics fro holding things!

Paul

9six4

1,357 posts

173 months

Monday 23rd November 2015
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At today's Coppa Di Tokyo...


037

1,317 posts

147 months

Monday 30th November 2015
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It was fantastic to come across this beauty whilst driving with my son and his mate! Made me grin like a kid!

DanPhoto

159 posts

122 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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9six4 said:
At today's Coppa Di Tokyo...

A Walter Wolf. That will be worth a few bob.

Bo_apex

2,557 posts

218 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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I bet Lamborghini were well chuffed eek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTidn2dBYbY&li...

RedBull

1,142 posts

222 months

Tuesday 1st December 2015
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paulqv said:
I need a bit of help.
The engine cover clamp,has come off and is lost.
That is the part at the back of the engine cover that fits into the latch on the rear bulkhead to keep the cover closed.
It is effectively two V shaped with a rod which protrudes by about 2.5 cm
Could someone look at their car and give me exact dimensions for the depth length etc of it so I can get a new one built up?
Thanks
Paul, sorry but I forgot about this completely. Do you still need this info? If so I will make a point of checking mine for you ASAP.

Adam B

27,222 posts

254 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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So is AndrewD selling his mint SA/UK car?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...

If so, seems a shame after all that effort to repatriate it but hope it stays in UK now

Ferruccio

1,835 posts

119 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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After the flurry of early Countaches that sold at auction for previously unseen prices, not sure how many of the later cars are selling at the "new" price levels............???

rich888

2,610 posts

199 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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Ferruccio said:
After the flurry of early Countaches that sold at auction for previously unseen prices, not sure how many of the later cars are selling at the "new" price levels............???
I keep looking at the adverts on PH and see the same cars advertised again and again at the 'new' price levels, can only assume that buyers are somewhat put off by these somewhat inflated prices. Having said that, I though the same when Countach prices were around £50K and £100K, and look where they are now.

What I need now is a crash in the classic car bubble prices so that I can step in and buy one wink