Are Mclarens Mileage Sensitive ?

Are Mclarens Mileage Sensitive ?

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GRBF430F1

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4,843 posts

170 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

Wow 43,000 miles in 2 1/2 years. Fair play to the owner (s) but seems way overpriced to others out there at sub 10k miles. Would of thought it would struggle to sell at £99,995 with that mileage unless £100k is the bottom line for any MP4 12C.

Not looking to buy it I must add but just perusing the ads doing some research with a 12C spider or 650S spider in mind for the new year.

Other half has tired of the scud, as I knew she would, fed up with everyone gawping at us in the Lambo, thinks the F355 wiffs of old man ????? so now SHE wants something more classy.
Guess that leaves me with Aston Martin DBS or a McLaren as the options


TP321

1,478 posts

198 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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That's so much car for £110k!! That's half price what that was 2.5 years ago. Sod the mileage

rich83

14,226 posts

138 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Bin the wife?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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GRBF430F1 said:
Would of thought
Tut. Speaky English, please...smile

andrew

9,969 posts

192 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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GRBF430F1 said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

Wow 43,000 miles in 2 1/2 years. Fair play to the owner (s) but seems way overpriced to others out there at sub 10k miles. Would of thought it would struggle to sell at £99,995 with that mileage unless £100k is the bottom line for any MP4 12C.

Not looking to buy it I must add but just perusing the ads doing some research with a 12C spider or 650S spider in mind for the new year.

Other half has tired of the scud, as I knew she would, fed up with everyone gawping at us in the Lambo, thinks the F355 wiffs of old man ????? so now SHE wants something more classy.
Guess that leaves me with Aston Martin DBS or a McLaren as the options
always interesting to see who wears the trousers biggrin

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

143 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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GRBF430F1 said:
Other half has tired of the scud,
ALREADY????? But I thought it was a sure fire thing this time next year Rodney all Scud owners will be milwionaires and a keeper? smile

We bought in about the same time and I think the Scud is epicly brilliant and in my mind a keeper...

av185

18,514 posts

127 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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andrew said:
GRBF430F1 said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

Wow 43,000 miles in 2 1/2 years. Fair play to the owner (s) but seems way overpriced to others out there at sub 10k miles. Would of thought it would struggle to sell at £99,995 with that mileage unless £100k is the bottom line for any MP4 12C.

Not looking to buy it I must add but just perusing the ads doing some research with a 12C spider or 650S spider in mind for the new year.

Other half has tired of the scud, as I knew she would, fed up with everyone gawping at us in the Lambo, thinks the F355 wiffs of old man ????? so now SHE wants something more classy.
Guess that leaves me with Aston Martin DBS or a McLaren as the options
always interesting to see who wears the trousers biggrin
And it appears is also the belt holding them up.

Car is way too expensive for that mileage. Mega sensitive to the miles.

There were two high spec LOW mileage black 62 platers in Blackbushe BCA last December one sold at book c £125k not sure about the other......

Jules360

1,949 posts

202 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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GRBF430F1 said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

Wow 43,000 miles in 2 1/2 years. Fair play to the owner (s) but seems way overpriced to others out there at sub 10k miles. Would of thought it would struggle to sell at £99,995 with that mileage unless £100k is the bottom line for any MP4 12C.

Not looking to buy it I must add but just perusing the ads doing some research with a 12C spider or 650S spider in mind for the new year.

Other half has tired of the scud, as I knew she would, fed up with everyone gawping at us in the Lambo, thinks the F355 wiffs of old man ????? so now SHE wants something more classy.
Guess that leaves me with Aston Martin DBS or a McLaren as the options
I seem to recall you mentioning once or twice that the Lambo was a 4th car. The 355 is one, what are the other 2 ? Can she not make do with them ?

rosino

1,346 posts

172 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Volcano orange 12c listed on bbg for 119k and 10k miles... Think 40k odd miles on a 12c at that price is just nuts

andy74b

832 posts

227 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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rosino said:
Volcano orange 12c listed on bbg for 119k and 10k miles... Think 40k odd miles on a 12c at that price is just nuts
The one on BB is very low spec and bad wrap.

duggan

911 posts

248 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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andy74b said:
rosino said:
Volcano orange 12c listed on bbg for 119k and 10k miles... Think 40k odd miles on a 12c at that price is just nuts
The one on BB is very low spec and bad wrap.
As a comparable, this is £119k and 10k miles at Romans - not quite the spec I'm after, but show's what you get for your money:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

Might add that the £109k/42k miles car is owned by a Supercar Hire Company - I was offered it and that + the mileage put me off it.

GRBF430F1

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4,843 posts

170 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Slickhillsy said:
ALREADY????? But I thought it was a sure fire thing this time next year Rodney all Scud owners will be milwionaires and a keeper? smile

We bought in about the same time and I think the Scud is epicly brilliant and in my mind a keeper...
No plans to sell the Scud ! That's my toy and TBH I prefer she doesn't come out in it as she is a nervous Nerris
Ok its me footing the bill but always happy to go along with her suggestion of any car additions as opposed to kids or kitchens

GRBF430F1

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4,843 posts

170 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Jules360 said:
I seem to recall you mentioning once or twice that the Lambo was a 4th car. The 355 is one, what are the other 2 ? Can she not make do with them ?
Got 5 bl00dy cars now and stable has rapidly grown but don't really count the 2 daily drivers as they are not supercars like the Scud, F355 and Lambo.
I prefer sports cars to GT's or Tourers but maybe a DBS would be different for a change.
Got to get garage extension completed first and 6 cars is the limit so need to choose wisely and one will have to go if/when I get into a speciale which is probably the ultimate goal hence why I haven't currently gone away from a 458 spider

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

143 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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GRBF430F1 said:
Slickhillsy said:
ALREADY????? But I thought it was a sure fire thing this time next year Rodney all Scud owners will be milwionaires and a keeper? smile

We bought in about the same time and I think the Scud is epicly brilliant and in my mind a keeper...
No plans to sell the Scud ! That's my toy and TBH I prefer she doesn't come out in it as she is a nervous Nerris
Ok its me footing the bill but always happy to go along with her suggestion of any car additions as opposed to kids or kitchens
Phew - That was close... All good then mate ;-)

GRBF430F1

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4,843 posts

170 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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With the first 650 S spiders appearing on the used car market at sub £200k now and the majority of 12C spiders at £150-£170k whats peoples general view on the price gap versus overall car ?

Personally I love the new P1 style front end and thought it was a bit bland on the 12C and only thing letting the car down visually. That, with the upgraded performance and standard carbon ceramic brakes makes me think the 650 S is the better buy although circa £40k more

Anyone had both and would share those thoughts ? Are 12C spiders likely to be rare in the future due to the limited production run ?

isaldiri

18,572 posts

168 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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GRBF430F1 said:
Anyone had both and would share those thoughts ? Are 12C spiders likely to be rare in the future due to the limited production run ?
The 12c spider absolutely isn't rare. Hardly anyone bought the coupes once the spider came out so I wouldn't be surprised if overall out of the ~3500 or so 12Cs maybe 40% in total are spiders.

If the 12C doesn't seem so mileage sensitive it's mainly because overall all the car values have got hammered. One would (or I do at least!) hope that there is some level at which a car of that performance capability is floored at. I guess it's simply that the low mileage cars at around most cars are listed at (I try not to look, rather traumatic experience....) get bought reasonably quickly while the higher mileage ones stay unsold until the seller has to hit whatever bid he gets.

Ballistic

942 posts

260 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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A trader recently offered me that 43k car for a figure substantially less than what it's being advertised for.

GRBF430F1

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4,843 posts

170 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Ballistic said:
A trader recently offered me that 43k car for a figure substantially less than what it's being advertised for.
Its a hell of a lot of performance for under £100k regardless of mileage. I would imagine these things are really well engineered given Ron Dennis's obsession with perfection.

Having read and watched some reviews on the 650S spider tonight it seems its worth spending the extra dough given the seemingly massive improvements over the 12C.

Anyone know what sort of deals can be had on delivery mileage cars or brand new ones ?

TP321

1,478 posts

198 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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A 650S Spider will be slightly better than a 12C Spider, but not enough to justify the £40k price difference, especially when you consider that the 650S has an awful lot of depreciating to do. As for any 12C coupe for £110k - that's surely a no brainer.

GRBF430F1

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170 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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TP321 said:
A 650S Spider will be slightly better than a 12C Spider, but not enough to justify the £40k price difference, especially when you consider that the 650S has an awful lot of depreciating to do. As for any 12C coupe for £110k - that's surely a no brainer.
Steve Sutcliffes Autocar 650S review suggested it was well worth the £40k price differential. Especially if you compare it with say a 458 being twice the price of a F430.
People don't view the 650S as a new model as its the same overall shape, engine etc as 12 C but apparently 25% of the parts are new.

Yes there is depreciation to go on a new 650S but that will have a knock on effect to 12C so I think the gap of £40k will be maintained on the whole because if it got to £20k it would be a no brainer anyway