Well here it is - the 720S

Well here it is - the 720S

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theRossatron

1,028 posts

233 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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MDL111 said:
am with Isaldiri here, I somehow also have a tough time believing that active aero (or any aero for that matter including a GT3Rs wing or a Ferrari what not aero) will have any material effect when driving on a country road at 70 mph .... I do believe it could help a little when doing 160 mph, not sure how often you guys corner at those speeds though. I certainly don't, and only hit the speeds on straights.
Understand the sceptism but have you never stuck your hand out of the window at 70mph? Now imagine standing out the sunroof of a car holding a flat object the size of a McLaren rear wing. I'd wager it makes a difference.

MarkNC

104 posts

118 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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theRossatron said:
Understand the sceptism but have you never stuck your hand out of the window at 70mph? Now imagine standing out the sunroof of a car holding a flat object the size of a McLaren rear wing. I'd wager it makes a difference.
You would easily win that wager. I don't understand how people can think aero does nothing at legal speeds. It certainly is more important on the track but it's not exactly useless on the motorway. Heck it's very useful for winning bicycle races and those happen at far slower speeds than cars go.


Edited by MarkNC on Friday 17th February 14:30

George29

14,707 posts

165 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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MarkNC said:
You would easily win that wager. I don't understand how people can think aero does nothing at legal speeds. It certainly is more important on the track but it's not exactly useless on the motorway. Heck it's very useful for winning bicycle races and those happen at far slower speeds than cars go.


Edited by MarkNC on Friday 17th February 14:30
You are using aero as a generic term there - the winning cycling races is through reducing drag. The aero mode on the McLaren is aimed at generating downforce I presume - this will give a very minor effect at road legal speeds

theRossatron

1,028 posts

233 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
The above comments about hands out of the windows and downforce- so essentially making the car have more drag. Slower
This is the whole point of active aero though. Downforce when it's beneficial and reduced when it isn't...

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,809 posts

241 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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I'll bang my 'stability' comment in one more time, then give up.

MDL111

6,977 posts

178 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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MarkNC said:
theRossatron said:
Understand the sceptism but have you never stuck your hand out of the window at 70mph? Now imagine standing out the sunroof of a car holding a flat object the size of a McLaren rear wing. I'd wager it makes a difference.
You would easily win that wager. I don't understand how people can think aero does nothing at legal speeds. It certainly is more important on the track but it's not exactly useless on the motorway. Heck it's very useful for winning bicycle races and those happen at far slower speeds than cars go.


Edited by MarkNC on Friday 17th February 14:30
Well, that is not exactly the same as saying a wing/aero component increases downforce by a large enough quantity that it actually makes a difference to the driving behaviour of a car. I think bicycle races have very little to do with downforce and a lot to do with reducing drag as much as possible

Boshly

2,776 posts

237 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
I'll bang my 'stability' comment in one more time, then give up.
thumbup

A few interesting points. Active aero is just that, working in different ways not just downforce. Stability (as ably pointed out above) varying weight distribution, general downforce, braking and probably other aspects I have no idea about.

I've said more than enough on this now so will simply read and hopefully learn from others smile

Edited by Boshly on Friday 17th February 19:25

AndyDubbya

948 posts

285 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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This thread seems to have become very argumentative.

AndyDubbya

948 posts

285 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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AndyDubbya said:
This thread seems to have become very argumentative.
No it hasn't.

foxsasha

1,417 posts

136 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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AndyDubbya said:
This thread seems to have become very argumentative.
No it hasn't.

Boshly

2,776 posts

237 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
I stand by my comments that Bolshy got, well - Bolshy about.

You may debate the Actively aero made you do it. It's like saying 'because Racecar' is why....

Pointless on the road and willy waving and I'd challenge those arguing that Mcl know best.
If one held that regard, one would leave the car in normal mode- unless in a scenario where Aero is relevant and of benefit



The above comments about hands out of the windows and downforce- so essentially making the car have more drag. Slower
It's not just about faster, braking assistance is about slower smile

Yes yes I know I said I'd keep schtum .....

Boshly

2,776 posts

237 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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AndyDubbya said:
AndyDubbya said:
This thread seems to have become very argumentative.
No it hasn't.
I prefer educational biggrin

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

171 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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AndyDubbya said:
No it hasn't.
Oh Yes it has !!!


He is behind you, don't you just love a pantomime

AndyDubbya

948 posts

285 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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foxsasha said:
AndyDubbya said:
This thread seems to have become very argumentative.
No it hasn't.
Too slow biggrin

Macman570

12 posts

87 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Now Girls -- Settle Down - Remember the post is Mclaren 720s - not Handbags at Dawn !!

foxsasha

1,417 posts

136 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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AndyDubbya said:
Too slow biggrin
laughbeer

Anjum

1,605 posts

285 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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And what is the time around nurburgring? I'm sure it will be pretty fast....but how fast. Allegedly - 6:52 to beat for the Lambo Huracan Performante (so quickest official lap time for a road car and faster than the 918 and the Aventador SV)....Whilst I get how likely is it that the owners of the car will get anywhere close to that time - it's a great benchmark for active aero with a 300HP power deficit........

720Sand1299

902 posts

150 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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lee_fr200 said:
Can I ask what's the average age of the guys buying this mclaren out of interest (on this thread)
38.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

171 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Heard its 6.49 due to some really light CT thingy and active aero ? whistle

MTech535

613 posts

112 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Entertaining!